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[transam]

Hi all, l have a Vigo 3.0 diesel Auto, and as an ageing hot rodder l looked around for a little performance upgrade, but found all to be very expensive for the power gain. So, l looked on the Net and found a company in Germany selling chips for any common rail diesel. My motor has 163 hp and 343 ft/lb of torque from factory, they claim their chip increases power to 205 hp and 405 ft/lb of torque and if you drive the vehicle normally it will increase gas mileage, all for 129 euros. Well, l've just fitted it and it's a blast, for little money. Around town l just breath on the pedal and when needed it fly's. lt is very easy to fit, l was worried that the connections would not fit but all are perfect. Took ten minutes to fit, cos l had to take the battery out to get my hand in to re- connect to the common rail. The other plus is that if you have a problem with it on the road you do not have to disconnect everything, they supply a bridge to connect instead of the chip box. They DHL, but to Thailand was lots so it was sent to UK address an sent on. Total cost with DHL was 144 euros, so l am all set for the stop light drags   . They supply for any common rail diesel. Take a look
www.racechip.de

[katabeachbum]

havent seen racechip.de used on 3,0D4d engine yet. How does your exhaust look like? Is it still ok, or is it really black at full throttle?

[RogueExpat]

I'm actually interested in a cheap plug in performance enhanced chip for Fortuner.

Anybody know of a sales outlet in Thailand selling them?

[imaneggspurt]

is the unit you bought anologue or digital ,if digital can i have details of where bought please,.........

[transam]

imaneggspurt, on 2009-10-01 09:24:05, said:

is the unit you bought anologue or digital ,if digital can i have details of where bought please,.........

I didn't give it a boot full, didn't need to it flew, so didn't notice about extra smoke but there is no extra smoke noticed when driving, the makers stress you drive as normal to get their advertised gains. I will say the engine feels smoother on idle, it's just better all round. If l was not impressed with it l would not bother to tell you guy,s. The chip, which is about 6x5x3cms is very professionally made and has a computer style wiring connection. Please read more on the tech stuff on their web site, the English is a bit naff but it's very clear to understand.
l looked in Thailand for a chip upgrade but found all very expensive. Look at www.racechip.de

[grrr]

imaneggspurt, on 2009-10-01 03:24:05, said:

is the unit you bought anologue or digital ,if digital can i have details of where bought please,.........

His post tells us where he bought it, and if you look at the website he mentions you will soon learn that it's digital.

[katabeachbum]

transam, on 2009-10-01 10:21:05, said:

imaneggspurt, on 2009-10-01 09:24:05, said:

is the unit you bought anologue or digital ,if digital can i have details of where bought please,.........

I didn't give it a boot full, didn't need to it flew, so didn't notice about extra smoke but there is no extra smoke noticed when driving, the makers stress you drive as normal to get their advertised gains. I will say the engine feels smoother on idle, it's just better all round. If l was not impressed with it l would not bother to tell you guy,s. The chip, which is about 6x5x3cms is very professionally made and has a computer style wiring connection. Please read more on the tech stuff on their web site, the English is a bit naff but it's very clear to understand.
l looked in Thailand for a chip upgrade but found all very expensive. Look at www.racechip.de

yepp, I v only found thai-sold chips at 35k baht. Very good though with clean exhaust and high power.

[philipm]

commonrail pressure chips arent that expensive.

<snip>

it has 3 tuning screws, which can be tuned by yourself for more or less increase of commonrail pressure.
it reads and sends out the signal at the same speed as the ecu transfer and reading rate,
which means the FPC is very quick to respond, and give instant power and huge torque no.


DMS FPC is not to be confused with the DMS piggyback, as the piggyback drives the injectors, the fpc increases the commonrail pressure.

the great thing about the fpc, is its completly tuneable by the owners to suit there driving habbits.
and is great for the first step. in general we see 25-40hp gain, and 130+nm of torque, depending on the tunes and application.

hope this helps you gents out looking for a cheaper commonrail box.

<snip>

Edited by soundman, 2009-10-03 08:48:15.
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[obrutrenut]

I have tried most of the piggyback plug ins for the fortuner, which to a certain extent gave an improved oomph, depending on the settings etc, however if you can get access to a unichip, its much better overall, which also comes as a plug and play unit, which can also being retuned / remapped on the dyno to suit your engine.

On some of these other chips i found a lot of overfuelling, black smoke, high egts and being kicked into loss mode too many times.

Just be carefull what you buy and what settings you put it too.

[obrutrenut]

@philpm,

You seem to be a good authority in the engine mods here mate, so i am wondering if you can offer some further advice??

What is the most drivable power you can achieve on a auto box fortuner 3.0 d4d fitted with a 1KD FTV engine and how to achieve this??
My goal is to achieve or improve on the stock power of the new LC200, fitted with the 4.5 v8 twin turbo diesel engine, which i beleive is around the 280hp mark.

This is my current set up, which i am hoping to improve on with your advice:

K&N drop in filter: i have only done this as i have been informed and saw it proven on a dyno that installing a cone type open filter loses power on this engine due to the maf sensing too much air.
Custom 4" down pipe mated to 3" exhaust system
Stg 4 TD Hybrid turbo
Uprated injectors: no pump mod as yet, is it available for this unit and what does it entail, gain?
Unichip Q piggy-back ecu
Alcohol / water injection stage 2 proggresive system, running pre turbo and post IC
Uprated FMIC with custom stainless pipeworks, too hard to get ally pipes here, so makes the cost way over the top
Runstop front big front brake conversion, stock callipers fitted with tanabe pads
Runstop rear disc conversion fitted with tanabe pads
Bilstein shocks and tein springs
Rota 18" wheels, was needed to install the larger brakes, dont want 20s as unit is on off road conditions too much
13 row engine oil cooler kit, keeps the oil around 85-90c
Custom TRD Style front bumper to increase air flow over FMIC
Custom CF hood with additional vents to allow hot air to escape quicker
Orange TPMS
Various Gauges to monitor boost, egts, volts, water temp, engine oil temp/pressure, gearbox/rear axle temps, IC in/out temps

I was looking at a custom exhaust manifold, but have no reliable info as to what gains it might give?
The cylinder head, valves and cams would be nice to do, but again no reliable info available to me as to what gains it will give?
Larger throttle body and intake runners, again no reliable info?
I was offered a twin turbo, compound set up from garret, but again the info is sketchy as most think the single turbo is the way to go in this engine?
Any further info, advice and products etc you can recommend would be greatly appreciated.
Also am i correct in saying that this model is fitted with a 2.5 bar map sensor only?

Cheers

[pattayapip]

Just bought the Racechip.de pro version chip, will fit it and see how it goes, all for around £200
Bought while in UK and brought back here

[whatawonderfulday]

obrutrenut, on 2009-10-14 14:56:49, said:

@philpm,

You seem to be a good authority in the engine mods here mate, so i am wondering if you can offer some further advice??

What is the most drivable power you can achieve on a auto box fortuner 3.0 d4d fitted with a 1KD FTV engine and how to achieve this??
My goal is to achieve or improve on the stock power of the new LC200, fitted with the 4.5 v8 twin turbo diesel engine, which i beleive is around the 280hp mark.

This is my current set up, which i am hoping to improve on with your advice:

K&N drop in filter: i have only done this as i have been informed and saw it proven on a dyno that installing a cone type open filter loses power on this engine due to the maf sensing too much air.
Custom 4" down pipe mated to 3" exhaust system
Stg 4 TD Hybrid turbo
Uprated injectors: no pump mod as yet, is it available for this unit and what does it entail, gain?
Unichip Q piggy-back ecu
Alcohol / water injection stage 2 proggresive system, running pre turbo and post IC
Uprated FMIC with custom stainless pipeworks, too hard to get ally pipes here, so makes the cost way over the top
Runstop front big front brake conversion, stock callipers fitted with tanabe pads
Runstop rear disc conversion fitted with tanabe pads
Bilstein shocks and tein springs
Rota 18" wheels, was needed to install the larger brakes, dont want 20s as unit is on off road conditions too much
13 row engine oil cooler kit, keeps the oil around 85-90c
Custom TRD Style front bumper to increase air flow over FMIC
Custom CF hood with additional vents to allow hot air to escape quicker
Orange TPMS
Various Gauges to monitor boost, egts, volts, water temp, engine oil temp/pressure, gearbox/rear axle temps, IC in/out temps

I was looking at a custom exhaust manifold, but have no reliable info as to what gains it might give?
The cylinder head, valves and cams would be nice to do, but again no reliable info available to me as to what gains it will give?
Larger throttle body and intake runners, again no reliable info?
I was offered a twin turbo, compound set up from garret, but again the info is sketchy as most think the single turbo is the way to go in this engine?
Any further info, advice and products etc you can recommend would be greatly appreciated.
Also am i correct in saying that this model is fitted with a 2.5 bar map sensor only?

Cheers

Guess all you need know for that little extra is furry dice and go faster stripes !!

[pattayapip]

Racechip Pro version from Germany: Very easy instructions and real simple, plug and play !!!
Unplug the commonrail sensor plug, Plug it into the Harness supplied, Plug the Harness into Common rail sensor, cable tie the Harness and chip, Done
From opening the package and reading the instructions maybe 5 minutes, nothing had to be removed !!!
I have not got any way of measuring increase, but like the guy at the start of this thread says, it flys !!  Very happy with increase, all is nice and sooth and quiet, and all for 11,000 Baht  !!!
Bargain !!
If you buy the normal version its only 7000 Baht or thereabouts !!!
Buy one and you will not be disappointed for immediate quick and cheap power increase.

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[culicine]

pattayapip, on 2009-10-21 16:56:10, said:

Racechip Pro version from Germany: Very easy instructions and real simple, plug and play !!!
Unplug the commonrail sensor plug, Plug it into the Harness supplied, Plug the Harness into Common rail sensor, cable tie the Harness and chip, Done
From opening the package and reading the instructions maybe 5 minutes, nothing had to be removed !!!
I have not got any way of measuring increase, but like the guy at the start of this thread says, it flys !! Very happy with increase, all is nice and sooth and quiet, and all for 11,000 Baht !!!
Bargain !!
If you buy the normal version its only 7000 Baht or thereabouts !!!
Buy one and you will not be disappointed for immediate quick and cheap power increase.

The website quotes increases of 20% or so it HP/torque. How was performance improved? acceleration, pulling power through the gears, top end acceleration?

Can you try to drive normally and get some fuel consumption records? Would like to know those results.

I don't have a diesel - migfht consider changing to a focus tdci, so this would be a nice little performance enhancement.

[philipm]

so far mate we have achieved a healthy 330-350hp for a daily driven fortuner.
then again that has taken into concideration you have done the tranmission modifications.
(which include, adding extra fricition plate clutch, increasing the line pressure slightly, using some john deer hydrostatic fluwid
and a external tranmission cooler)---makes the std auto handle alot of torque and abuse.

if you are talking about the std tranmission, tranmission slip is highly prone after 275hp.


i need more information on your turbocharger...and also unichip is popular,
they still can not claim near the power the DMS units make's that i sell.
dms monster kit not controls the injection pulse width, and the commonrail pressure,
but further unlocks boost limit.

std engine can handle 3bar of turbo boost daily driven. nevertheless,
it all depends on the tuning, as if your producing heavy smoke, your egt's will be very high (above 800* c,
will melt your pistons etc). so aslong as you can maintain lower egt, turbo boost is not an issue.


realise on our drag pickups, they are running 60psi!!! 4bar on std internals. it all depends on the tune,
but ofcourse daily driven 4bar is not raliable.

besides that we have oversized pistons, More importantly Pump modification kit, and INJECTOR CAPS- big cc, etc etc.
how much turbo boost are you running? what sort of external wastegate are you running? or are you running std swing valve?


as for the intake k&N they are wronge sorry, you can fit the cone type filter.
as you can see from our trucks. you need to cut the original maf sensor mount from the original box.
you have to utilize and maintain the std diameter of the maf sensor and its mount. as long as you do that, you can design what ever intake
pipe you lke and what ever filter you like.


if you want more info you can also mail me.
ofcourse i sell all parts.

[pattayapip]

culicine, on 2009-10-21 17:23:02, said:

pattayapip, on 2009-10-21 16:56:10, said:

Racechip Pro version from Germany: Very easy instructions and real simple, plug and play !!!
Unplug the commonrail sensor plug, Plug it into the Harness supplied, Plug the Harness into Common rail sensor, cable tie the Harness and chip, Done
From opening the package and reading the instructions maybe 5 minutes, nothing had to be removed !!!
I have not got any way of measuring increase, but like the guy at the start of this thread says, it flys !! Very happy with increase, all is nice and sooth and quiet, and all for 11,000 Baht !!!
Bargain !!
If you buy the normal version its only 7000 Baht or thereabouts !!!
Buy one and you will not be disappointed for immediate quick and cheap power increase.

The website quotes increases of 20% or so it HP/torque. How was performance improved? acceleration, pulling power through the gears, top end acceleration?

Can you try to drive normally and get some fuel consumption records? Would like to know those results.

I don't have a diesel - migfht consider changing to a focus tdci, so this would be a nice little performance enhancement.

Am going out for a decent drive today so i will try and answer your questions later. As for fuel consumption i would only be able to look at what the average was on the trip computer as my wife drives this most of the time as i work away for 2 months at a time.

[VocalNeal]

culicine, on 2009-10-21 17:23:02, said:

I don't have a diesel - migfht consider changing to a focus tdci, so this would be a nice little performance enhancement.

Enzo Ferrari was once quoted as saying "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races" Based on that the Focus with a chip would be my choice.

But I'm still saving!

[Gary A]

There is a little thing called thermal dynamics. I'm quite sure Toyota would pay big money for a chip that increases power and fuel economy. No doubt you can tweak more power out of the engine. but better economy? DON'T believe everything you read or hear.

[VocalNeal]

Gary A, on 2010-02-04 19:54:52, said:

DON'T believe everything you read or hear.

Believe nothing you hear, half of what you read and everything you see. But given slight of hand even that doesn't work. I think the correct quote is "It's a good plan to believe half you see and nothing you hear"

I'd take the extra grunt and monitor the fuel consumption.

[philipm]

hey gents,

as menationed earlier there are two types of piggyback chips,

1-commonrail pressure modules (cheap offers good torque but not high hp)
2-injector based modubles (controls the duration of nozzle spray, tuning with map fuel variables, pilot and pulse injection-more expensive but proves very good results without the annoying engine check problems suffured from the commonrail pressure modules when tuned to high)

i offer many stages:

stage 1: std turbo, std everything besides ECU monster kit-enough to gain 60-80hp safely and 150-200nm of torque.

stage 2: rated at 240-270hp includes turbo, headers, external wastegate, ecu monster kit, intercooler upgrade front mount with pipes, exhaust, downpipe, custom turbine housing for turbo, boost gauge and boost controller, custom intake kit etc.

stage 3: 300+hp.

just pm me if you want more info or prices etc.

www.monster-p-industries.com

[katabeachbum]

Gary A, on 2010-02-04 19:54:52, said:

There is a little thing called thermal dynamics. I'm quite sure Toyota would pay big money for a chip that increases power and fuel economy. No doubt you can tweak more power out of the engine. but better economy? DON'T believe everything you read or hear.

I have chipsed some Toyota 3,0 D4D to 211 hp and 420 Nm.

There is no change in fuel economy at all.

Huge change in performance, but due to the slow 4 speed auto, 0-100 kmh is still 10 seconds, empty or loaded with 700 kg. 50-150kmh is much faster than stock though.

[philipm]

katabeachbum,

with 211hp and 420nm of torque, you should be doing 0-100 in high 8seconds even with the auto.
have you dynoed your truck?

it sounds more like you got more torque on tap, but not 45hp. maybe 20hp?

[katabeachbum]

philipm, on 2010-02-05 13:24:42, said:

katabeachbum,

with 211hp and 420nm of torque, you should be doing 0-100 in high 8seconds even with the auto.
have you dynoed your truck?

it sounds more like you got more torque on tap, but not 45hp. maybe 20hp?

havent dynoed these units, but similar units have been dynoed.

2.200 kg unloaded (only fuel and driver) or 3.000 kg loaded truck with aircon running, airtemp 35C, intercooler temp 50-60C and slow shifting auto. I dont see 0-100 faster than 10 seconds. would be a miracle on hp/ton. doesnt matter if I start whith burning wheels 2000rpm (Vigo), or from 800 rpm idle (Vigo/Fortuner full time 4x4).

[vel_tins]

@philipm
the "tuning chip" you offer, is it a "plug `n play connector", same on the fotos above, or a real replacement chip for the ECU?
EDIT: Ok, I read the complete thread, this answers my questions...

Edited by vel_tins, 2010-02-07 22:27:01.

[mortenaa]

I bought a racechip pro for my BMW 320d, and im very happy with the result!!