Going to try the Salt Beef next, anyone else tried? Comments?
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BaconMake your own.
Started by NIB, 2009-10-06 09:01
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Member Posted 2009-10-06 09:01:18
I bought one of Thai Visa's Make your own Bacon kits and it works, well done, I did not Know how easy it was to make yourself
Going to try the Salt Beef next, anyone else tried? Comments? The banner is in the General Topics sponser list but here is the link for those blind members.http://www.thaivisa....bacon/bacon.php #2
Senior Member Posted 2009-10-06 09:15:58
A rasher man than me
How did it taste like the good Canadian Danish Irish stuff or CP grease? #3
Jerk Posted 2009-10-06 12:02:41
I saw the banner on Thaivisa as well. I never bothered to click on it. My thought was "what the hel_l"? Why would I want to make bacon. Like, it isn't all that expensive to purchase pre-made bacon. So is the motivation cost savings? Is it taste? Is there something wrong with how store bought bacon tastes? Like I don't eat alot of bacon, really. But I don't really have a complaint with the bacon that I purchased. Tell me, what is up with those kits? Like do I have to slaughter my own pig to use the Thaivisa make-your-own-bacon kit?
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Platinum Member Posted 2009-10-06 14:08:30
My ex used to buy the long strips pf pork belly and slice it diagonally with a very sharp knife. Did the trick nicely.
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Groovy Member Posted 2009-10-07 06:28:15
I saw the banner on Thaivisa as well. I never bothered to click on it. My thought was "what the hel_l"? Why would I want to make bacon. Like, it isn't all that expensive to purchase pre-made bacon. So is the motivation cost savings? Is it taste? Is there something wrong with how store bought bacon tastes? Like I don't eat alot of bacon, really. But I don't really have a complaint with the bacon that I purchased. Tell me, what is up with those kits? Like do I have to slaughter my own pig to use the Thaivisa make-your-own-bacon kit? Why make your own bacon? 1. Cost -- about 1/2 the cost of store-bought bacon. Basically, it only cost a few baht more than the price of pork belly. 2. Taste -- levels above that store-bought liquid smoke taste, provided you smoke it the old fashioned way. If you buy "gourmet" bacon that has more flavor, then the price is likely more than double that of the pork. In fact, I am brining/curing my own bacon at the moment, although not using a "kit", but my own method. I bought a 3-kilo slab of pork belly at Makro (I simply asked the butcher to cut it off of a larger pork belly). I have made bigger, but this size fits nicely into my container. I prefer a brine to the dry cure process - works just fine and seems more convenient for me; no worries about getting an even distribution of the cure. I, like you, used to always buy store-bought bacon. Even in my home country. I was accustomed to the taste and never knew any different. But necessity prompted me to make my own here, as I live in the boondocks. After I made my first home bacon, I had realized that I never really knew what real bacon is supposed to taste like, until then. Never bought store bacon again and have saved a lot of money. I know others here talk about getting imported Western woods/woodchips for their smokers (apple, hickory, mesquite, etc), but I find mango wood easy to find, cheap (free), and the flavor is just fine. Edited by ChefHeat, 2009-10-07 06:32:06. #6
Rather Make Love than War Member Posted 2009-10-07 11:55:47
In the US, I can find some decent store-bought bacon. It might be a little pricey, but it tastes as good if not better than home-made. And the "regular" commercial bacon is acceptable.
But in Thailand, the "regular" bacon is simply horrible, and the "quality" bacon is merely acceptable. I don't care one fig if home-made bacon is more or less expensive, but I do care that it is lightyears ahead of the commercial bacon available here in terms of taste. #7
Groovy Member Posted 2009-10-07 13:01:40
In the US, I can find some decent store-bought bacon. It might be a little pricey, but it tastes as good if not better than home-made. And the "regular" commercial bacon is acceptable. But in Thailand, the "regular" bacon is simply horrible, and the "quality" bacon is merely acceptable. I don't care one fig if home-made bacon is more or less expensive, but I do care that it is lightyears ahead of the commercial bacon available here in terms of taste. I hope you're not including Farmer John or Hormel bacon in the US. Edited by ChefHeat, 2009-10-07 13:02:47. #8
Bull Powered Member Posted 2009-10-07 17:09:33
Call me dumb, but...
How does one actually place an order for the Thaivisa make-your-own-bacon kit? #9
Groovy Member Posted 2009-10-07 17:26:38
Call me dumb, but... How does one actually place an order for the Thaivisa make-your-own-bacon kit? Out of curiosity, I clicked on the link and it says: "Pexgo International Co., Ltd exports our kits all over Europe. Please contact us for a quote." It does not appear to be ThaiVisa, but a sponsor located in Europe. They have an online contact form at the link location. I guess you would write in the "message" field that you are located in Thailand. Edited by ChefHeat, 2009-10-07 17:59:23. #10
Member Posted 2009-10-07 17:44:39
Call me dumb, but... How does one actually place an order for the Thaivisa make-your-own-bacon kit? Out of curiosity, I clicked on the link and it says: "Pexgo International Co., Ltd exports our kits all over Europe. Please contact us for a quote." It does not appear to be ThaiVisa, but a sponsor located in Europe. 100% wrong, he is based in Bangkok, selling in all over Thailand and exports as well as being a courier.........according to his leaflet. I have to say I'm a very satisfied customer here in BKK. #11
Member Posted 2009-10-07 17:48:31
Call me dumb, but... How does one actually place an order for the Thaivisa make-your-own-bacon kit? Hi Dumb, click on the link and fill out the form 
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Groovy Member Posted 2009-10-07 18:00:51
Call me dumb, but... How does one actually place an order for the Thaivisa make-your-own-bacon kit? Out of curiosity, I clicked on the link and it says: "Pexgo International Co., Ltd exports our kits all over Europe. Please contact us for a quote." It does not appear to be ThaiVisa, but a sponsor located in Europe. 100% wrong, he is based in Bangkok, selling in all over Thailand and exports as well as being a courier.........according to his leaflet. I have to say I'm a very satisfied customer here in BKK. No, that would make me 50% wrong, as it is not ThaiVisa
Edited by ChefHeat, 2009-10-07 18:02:39. #13
Bull Powered Member Posted 2009-10-07 18:50:43
Call me dumb, but... How does one actually place an order for the Thaivisa make-your-own-bacon kit?  Would it not be infinitely better if there was a real online ordering system? Not exactly rocket science, how about multiple payment options (PayPal, ATM transfer etc.). I'd love to try this, missing real bacon (I've scoffed all that brought by my son frm the UK). #14
Senior Member Posted 2009-10-07 19:17:58
So all you do is stick the bacon in with the brine? No actual smoking going on? Is that a good way to do it?
ChefHeat mentioned using mango wood etc, I'm assuming that's for proper smoking, I won't have to buy this kit and then smoke the stuff after will I? I'm really excited about this, I've really had enough of disappointing bacon, even the expensive stuff is cr4p, the best I can find is the black bacon rashers in foodland but they still lack real flavour or thickness... Please advise #15
Groovy Member Posted 2009-10-07 20:36:56
So all you do is stick the bacon in with the brine? No actual smoking going on? Is that a good way to do it? ChefHeat mentioned using mango wood etc, I'm assuming that's for proper smoking, I won't have to buy this kit and then smoke the stuff after will I? I'm really excited about this, I've really had enough of disappointing bacon, even the expensive stuff is cr4p, the best I can find is the black bacon rashers in foodland but they still lack real flavour or thickness... Please advise It appears they provide two options: one with smoke flavor; one without (presumably if you own a smoker). I would think if you dont have a smoker, or cannot have one (if living in a condo or apartment), then the option with the smoke flavoring might be best for you. I would think the final product would still be better, and definitely cheaper in the long run, than the store bought stuff. #16
Senior Member Posted 2009-10-07 20:48:49
Smoking takes days and the proper curing process takes days too, and preferably in a cool place which isn't very easy to achieve in this climate, so yes I'll definitely be getting the smoked option
Ordering tonight, hope it comes soon! #17
Groovy Member Posted 2009-10-07 21:00:21
Smoking takes days and the proper curing process takes days too, and preferably in a cool place which isn't very easy to achieve in this climate, so yes I'll definitely be getting the smoked option Ordering tonight, hope it comes soon! A refrigerator is a cool place
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Senior Member Posted 2009-10-07 21:15:06
Mine is a very cold place, I need to keep my beers cold!
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Senior Member Posted 2009-10-07 21:29:51
Mine is a very cold place, I need to keep my beers cold! Well, after some investigation it seems that a fridge would be fine... Silly me What do you think is in this brine mix anyway? #20
Groovy Member Posted 2009-10-08 04:57:59
Mine is a very cold place, I need to keep my beers cold! Well, after some investigation it seems that a fridge would be fine... Silly me What do you think is in this brine mix anyway? The 2 basic requirements would be non-iodized salt (like sea salt) and sugar. For the smoke flavoring: by reading their method, it appears they might be using smoked salt. Then again, they may provide you with some liquid smoke... cannot determine which from the information provided. A 3rd requirement, cure (sodium nitrite), would be needed if actually smoking in a smoker. But reading their 3 examples on their site, I cannot determine if they are using cure in their mix or not, as it appears 2 of their methods require steaming (which would not necessitate a cure, as the steam-heat would kill bacteria). Not something I am familiar with, perhaps these are English-style methods? German?? Scandinavian?? Edited by ChefHeat, 2009-10-08 06:16:20. #21
Rather Make Love than War Member Posted 2009-10-08 10:45:21
In the US, I can find some decent store-bought bacon. It might be a little pricey, but it tastes as good if not better than home-made. And the "regular" commercial bacon is acceptable. But in Thailand, the "regular" bacon is simply horrible, and the "quality" bacon is merely acceptable. I don't care one fig if home-made bacon is more or less expensive, but I do care that it is lightyears ahead of the commercial bacon available here in terms of taste. I hope you're not including Farmer John or Hormel bacon in the US. I have never bought either of them, but I imagine they would be at least edible, if not really good. I have tried a couple of the national brands, and they will do to put on a burger or such (although I wouldn't be using them for penne amatriciana or for beef bourguignon.) The good bacon tends to be regional, made by smaller companies and distributed through the local stores. It costs a little more than the Farmer John and other national brands. Of course, at any butcher shop, you can get quality bacon, but that is what tends to be real pricey. #22
Senior Member Posted 2009-10-08 10:55:20
Briliant idea. Why not make your own bread also with a simple bread making machine, and icecream with a home icecream maker. Could also stimulate oneself so no need for a partner.
I have even heard that it is possible to grow your own vegetables 
Edited by rabcbroon, 2009-10-08 10:55:37. #23
Advanced Member Posted 2009-10-08 12:27:12
I'm well pleased with my kit so far. Used it twice with pork loin from Makro. You can get a 2kg piece in the box. After three days a quick rinse and into the fridge for a couple of hours. It tastes better than most of the bacon you buy here and if you want rashers of loin they aren't that easy to find outside of the expat supermarkets like Villa. Will try streaky bacon next followed by shoulder of pork.
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Senior Member Posted 2009-10-08 13:43:18
Briliant idea. Why not make your own bread also with a simple bread making machine, and icecream with a home icecream maker. Could also stimulate oneself so no need for a partner. I have even heard that it is possible to grow your own vegetables 
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Senior Member Posted 2009-10-08 14:00:25
I'm not crazy about bacon, and always considered it to be one of the unhealthiest foods to eat due to the high amount of fat and sodium it has. However, I enjoy a BLT (bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich) occasionally, so I was wondering if the bacon made from this kit is any healthier, especially in the area of reduced sodium.
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