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#201
mizzi39
Super Member Posted 2009-11-06 10:26:18
The people of Isaan may love him, but unfortunately for Thaksin, the people of Isaan don't matter. Guns and money are against him, he's got nothing but popularity which rarely counts for much in military-dominated politics in SE Asia. Wow! Spoken like a true PAD (people who accept dictatorship) supporter. 
#202
cyb
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 10:26:19
- Thaksin hate anyone who was White. It's surprising you should say that when his country of choice while in excile was one of the whitest... the UK. Thaksin had so many monetary interests in the uk thats why. Money for thaksin overrides all over concerns. He also thought the uk would protect him that was his primary concern. How wrong he was. Edited by cyb, 2009-11-06 10:34:35. #203
coalminer
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 10:26:40
- Thaksin hate anyone who was White. It's surprising you should say that when his country of choice while in excile was one of the whitest... the UK. Wrong person quoted. Read the whole post before quoting anybody.
I was wondering when someone would bring up Thaksin's efforts to purge Thailand of farangs from Australia, NZ, SA, Canada, the U.S. & Europe. Thaksin hate anyone who was White. If he were still in power it would be very difficult for any of us to live in Thailand. I'm sure he would invite all the Chinese that had any money to settle here. Was it Thaksin that put in this stupid law - surely the most stupid law in place of any country in the world - that alcohol cannot be purchased between the evening hours of 2 p.m. to 5 p.m.? That and censoring on TV a person putting a cigarette to their mouthes. I was in Pattaya when he was overthrown in 2006. That was one of the happiest days of my life. A man that hates me simply because of my skin color, I have no use for. To those farangs who praise that crook, look back and remember just how much he hated you and wanted you out of Thailand. #204
Scott
Star Member Posted 2009-11-06 10:26:52
He had economic activities and diplomatic privileges from other, more distant countries with relatively little criticism (of the countries).
#205
seri thai
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 10:29:03
The people of Isaan may love him, but unfortunately for Thaksin, the people of Isaan don't matter. Guns and money are against him, he's got nothing but popularity which rarely counts for much in military-dominated politics in SE Asia. Are you saying he does not have rather powerful friends in Thailand? Don't think you are right. He also has some powerful friends in Asean countries and Brunei 
#206
NamSod
Advanced Member Posted 2009-11-06 10:33:25
A crook? What did he do other than sell his telecomm company? I am serious. What has been proven about him that he deserves to be hated and imprisoned?  Post #168 - Thaksin's efforts to purge Thailand of farangs from Australia, NZ, SA, Canada, the U.S. & Europe. - Thaksin hate anyone who was White. - Thaksin that put in this stupid law - surely the most stupid law in place of any country in the world - that alcohol cannot be purchased between the evening hours of 2 p.m. to 5 p.m.? - censoring on TV a person putting a cigarette to their mouthes. Does this answer your question? ROTFLMAO I dont smoke or drink so I have no problems with any of these. <snip> I see nothing wrong with that. 
#207
cyb
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 10:43:14
Wrong person quoted. Read the whole post before quoting anybody. Coalminer i think you were guilty in not quoting correctly thats why tropo made the mistake as regards post 168. A newbie i could forgive but a member from 2004? mmmmm Edited by cyb, 2009-11-06 10:45:21. #208
coalminer
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 10:47:21
Wrong person quoted. Read the whole post before quoting anybody. Coalminer i think you were guilty in not quoting correctly thats why tropo made the mistake as regards post 168. A newbie i could forgive but a member from 2004? mmmmm Guilty as carged. Mea Culpa But it is difficult to quote a post from 4 pages back in an rcent post. #209
cyb
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 10:50:20
Wrong person quoted. Read the whole post before quoting anybody. Coalminer i think you were guilty in not quoting correctly thats why tropo made the mistake as regards post 168. A newbie i could forgive but a member from 2004? mmmmm Guilty as carged. Mea Culpa But it is difficult to quote a post from 4 pages back in an rcent post. Guilty as charged sentenced to two hours of thaksin propaganda 
#210
WinnieTheKhwai
Incredible Member Posted 2009-11-06 10:50:52
It's amazing to see how many people here actually believes the current government are any less corrupt compared with previous ones. For anyone living here pre-Thaksin, you would know how many things actually improved during his time. Not without faults, but the situation for most Thais improved considerably. To even think that corruption in high places ended with Thaskin's departure is nothing more than pure stupidity. But then again, we do rely on the Infinite monkey theorem here. Yes, posters her are emotive about Taksin, this unfortunately short circuits any chance of rational or analytical thought for even those that were capable of it. The rah rah nonsense you read here quite frankly is boring and repetitive for the most part. Can only assume most here are recent arrivals. Completely agree! Time for a proper constitution and proper elections if you ask me.. May the best man win..! #211
webfact
Admin Posted 2009-11-06 10:56:11
Thai Foreign Minister urges Cambodia to review decision on Thaksin appointment
BANGKOK, Nov 6 (TNA) - Thailand's Minister of Foreign Affairs Kasit Piromya urged the Cambodian government late Thursday to review its decision to appoint convicted former Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra as personal advisor to Cambodian Premier Hun Sen and advisor on economy to his government. Mr Kasit said Phnom Penh must choose between personal interest and relations and the national interests and relations of the two countries. He also confirmed the news report that Cambodia had recalled its ambassador to Thailand. The Agence France-Presse (AFP) news agency quoted Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister Sok An as saying that "To reciprocate the recall of Thailand's ambassador-designate, the Royal Government of Cambodia decided to recall its ambassador for the time being but regards this only as a temporary measure." He also told a news conference in Phnom Penh that the Cambodian envoy would be sent back to Bangkok only after Thailand has returned its ambassador-designate to Cambodia. Thailand recalled its envoy from Phnom Penh in protest against the Mr Thaksin's appointment. It is also reviewing all existing bilateral agreements and cooperation projects with Cambodia, including the ongoing cooperation which the Royal Thai Government has extended to Cambodia. Meanwhile, Thai envoy to Cambodia Prasas Prasasvinitchai arrived in Bangkok at 9.55pm Thursday without giving any comment to the media. He reportedly requested the airport authority to provide a vehicle to pick him up at the aircraft. In related developments, Thailand has stepped up security measures at the Cambodian Embassy in Bangkok. More personnel are assigned to provide security at the embassy, including 230 police from various stations under the Metropolitan Police Bureau and anti-riot units for rotated posting to the embassy. (TNA)  -- TNA 2009/11/06 
#212
cyb
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 10:56:49
It's amazing to see how many people here actually believes the current government are any less corrupt compared with previous ones. For anyone living here pre-Thaksin, you would know how many things actually improved during his time. Not without faults, but the situation for most Thais improved considerably. To even think that corruption in high places ended with Thaskin's departure is nothing more than pure stupidity. But then again, we do rely on the Infinite monkey theorem here. Yes, posters her are emotive about Taksin, this unfortunately short circuits any chance of rational or analytical thought for even those that were capable of it. The rah rah nonsense you read here quite frankly is boring and repetitive for the most part. Can only assume most here are recent arrivals. Completely agree! Time for a proper constitution and proper elections if you ask me.. May the best man win..! Anyone got one of those sick bags you get on the plane?  
#213
JetsetBkk
The JesterBkk Posted 2009-11-06 11:10:07
Yes, posters her are emotive about Taksin, this unfortunately short circuits any chance of rational or analytical thought for even those that were capable of it. The rah rah nonsense you read here quite frankly is boring and repetitive for the most part. Can only assume most here are recent arrivals.
#214
gardener2
Member Posted 2009-11-06 11:25:21
Interestingly comical Thaksin comments on Twitter over this issue:
"I would ask for permission from the Thai people to give economic advice to the government of Cambodia, according to my appointment by King Sihamoni, until I can return to the country." ''In fact, I have already served as an adviser to other governments. I take this as a way of keeping my brain sharp, otherwise it could become rusty if I don't keep abreast of new ideas and developments." "I want to work for the Thai people, but I cannot. They don't even let me carry a Thai passport." ''They would also strip me of my police rank and recall my royal decorations. They would even take away my nationality and race, if they could, only because I worked too hard." ''Our neighbour is not an enemy. Since we have to be close to each other forever, it's better that we should be friends." #215
coalminer
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 11:48:59
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Guilty as carged. Mea Culpa But it is difficult to quote a post from 4 pages back in an rcent post. Guilty as charged sentenced to two hours of thaksin propaganda Hey, I admitted being guilty. So, I should have right to half of the sentence. The sentence should read: Guilty as charged. Sentenced to FOUR hours of thaksin propaganda
#216
gardener2
Member Posted 2009-11-06 12:21:52
Police step up security at Cambodian embassy Police have stepped up security outside the Cambodia Embassy following the strained bilateral relations.
In related developments, Thailand has stepped up security measures at the Cambodian Embassy in Bangkok. More personnel are assigned to provide security at the embassy Saw this on Yahoo News and had to chuckle at the visual in regards to the words in the above news.  It's a good thing security was "stepped up" as otherwise both men would be sitting. Lordy, I love Thailand.   A Thai police officer, left, and a security guard stand guarding outside the Cambodian Embassy in Bangkok, Thailand Friday, Nov. 6, 2009. Thailand and Cambodia recalled their ambassadors from each other's country in a diplomatic spat over Phnom Penh naming fugitive former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra a government adviser. #217
Grey11
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 12:30:35
Does anyone know if the laws of Thailand, the constitution, would allow or permit having a bounty put on the head of a convicted felon and bail jumper? If allowed, it may be time to put forth such a bounty. Take the money from Tacky's 2 billion on hold. Maybe something like 5 Million US.... You wouldn't have to bring him all back,,,,,, as the bounty would be on the head. Sure would make for an interesting life for Mr. Thaksin..... Probably could make a good case for inciting riots, and/or insurection too. Excellent idea! The old Khmer Rouge humanitarian Hun Sen might actually capture Thaksin or do to him what he and his comrades did to nearly 3 million Cambodians. #218
tig28
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 13:35:46
Hahaha, you are a moderator, wow... If you by elections are referring to people going to the booths, then neither Samak nor Somchai won anything. They were part of a party that got a minority of the votes and then later formed a coalition government under which Samak was first PM elected before he was removed from the position for his unconstitutional salary from the tv show. PPP then THEMSELVES decided to not re-instate him. They could have, since the constitution is still flawed. But they chose not to. Nothing else. Somchai was voted out from the MPs in the coalition, not by any election by the population. All according to process. Same as Abhisit. But again we see that when facts fail, some of you invent their own... Please tell me the different between the elections of Samak, Somchai and Abhisit. Mail the answer on a postcard. Hi young TAWP you have been sleeping in class again .... The lack of legitimacy of the current government comes not from the coalition they formed to achieve power (however unsavory) .... but rather from the circumstances created to allow them to actually do so!! After failing to secure power in elections in 2001, again in 2005 and watching in relief as a coup prevented yet another rout in 2006 (only weeks before scheduled national elections) The Democrats once again faced the electorate after every possible road-block had been placed in front of their opponents by the Junta ... and in December 2007 ...... oh well .. you know........ Shock !! Horror !! In this election the PPP was (I think) 14 seats short of an outright majority and after yet another electoral slaughter of the Democrats I find it pretty difficult to describe The Democrats as a "legitimate" Government of anywhere. The PPP had won against all the odds (and expectations of their enemies) then had to endure the non-righteous indignation of the perennial losers --- this -- with some help from their powerful and desperate friends----- drove the truly legitimately elected Government into the wilderness. Now the Democrats-- who have not won an election in living memory ----- were able to finally grasp power. Legitimate ????? Certain to win???? But all of this is but history lets see how the Democrats do next election without: Martial law in force in 26 of 76 provinces.( No prize for guessing which provinces!) Army commanders ordering forces to vote against PPP. Most PPP leaders banned. Courts being instructed to act against the opposition by a very high power. Maybe not operating under military-appointed drafting committees constitution. The CNS acting illegally to destroy the opposition party Democrats buying votes.(charged by EC but found not guilty  )ETC. etc. let us wait and see..... 
#219
xminator
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 13:51:48
Yesterday: Goverment played cool, no consequence etc etc. Today, ant hive is panicking. The puppets started to react to strings pulled it seems. Suthep trying to play cheeky and propose Rainsy as economic adviser for thailand just to get slapped by the same Rainsey.
#220
LawnGnome
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 14:47:25
Hahaha, you are a moderator, wow... If you by elections are referring to people going to the booths, then neither Samak nor Somchai won anything. They were part of a party that got a minority of the votes and then later formed a coalition government under which Samak was first PM elected before he was removed from the position for his unconstitutional salary from the tv show. PPP then THEMSELVES decided to not re-instate him. They could have, since the constitution is still flawed. But they chose not to. Nothing else. Somchai was voted out from the MPs in the coalition, not by any election by the population. All according to process. Same as Abhisit. But again we see that when facts fail, some of you invent their own... Please tell me the different between the elections of Samak, Somchai and Abhisit. Mail the answer on a postcard. Hi young TAWP you have been sleeping in class again .... The lack of legitimacy of the current government comes not from the coalition they formed to achieve power (however unsavory) .... but rather from the circumstances created to allow them to actually do so!! After failing to secure power in elections in 2001, again in 2005 and watching in relief as a coup prevented yet another rout in 2006 (only weeks before scheduled national elections) The Democrats once again faced the electorate after every possible road-block had been placed in front of their opponents by the Junta ... and in December 2007 ...... oh well .. you know........ Shock !! Horror !! In this election the PPP was (I think) 14 seats short of an outright majority and after yet another electoral slaughter of the Democrats I find it pretty difficult to describe The Democrats as a "legitimate" Government of anywhere. The PPP had won against all the odds (and expectations of their enemies) then had to endure the non-righteous indignation of the perennial losers --- this -- with some help from their powerful and desperate friends----- drove the truly legitimately elected Government into the wilderness. Now the Democrats-- who have not won an election in living memory ----- were able to finally grasp power. Legitimate ????? Certain to win???? But all of this is but history lets see how the Democrats do next election without: Martial law in force in 26 of 76 provinces.( No prize for guessing which provinces!) Army commanders ordering forces to vote against PPP. Most PPP leaders banned. Courts being instructed to act against the opposition by a very high power. Maybe not operating under military-appointed drafting committees constitution. The CNS acting illegally to destroy the opposition party Democrats buying votes.(charged by EC but found not guilty )ETC. etc. let us wait and see..... Thaksin has destroyed any chance of PTP regaining power, with this Cambodia fiasco. Bad for Thaksin and PTP, good for Thailand, without a doubt. #221
Valentine
GOMS Member Posted 2009-11-06 14:59:58
It is quite possible Mr T could be labeled as a traitor no matter what he says on twitter. If the NE folk start thinking this way then this is a disastarous move for him unless the plan is much more convoluted than I think. Oil concessions using Dubai connections could be part of it but there is the very real possibility of either war civil or between Thailand & Cambodia. A very dangerous & slippery slope indeed & the price on Mr T's head probably just rose drastically.
I find it hard to believe Mr T took this path considering many of his supporters will now turn against him. #222
coalminer
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 15:01:49
Thaksin has destroyed any chance of PTP regaining power, with this Cambodia fiasco. Bad for Thaksin and PTP, good for Thailand, without a doubt. I know only one fiasco for Thailand and that was a really big one. It's callled "THE PAD". #223
Ricardo
Aged Folk-Rocking Member Posted 2009-11-06 15:02:37
That would restrict Sondhi and hos recently created Democratic Party from being a candidate as well. 
#224
LawnGnome
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 15:07:09
Thaksin has destroyed any chance of PTP regaining power, with this Cambodia fiasco. Bad for Thaksin and PTP, good for Thailand, without a doubt. I know only one fiasco for Thailand and that was a really big one. It's callled "THE PAD". Lol
#225
Asa
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-06 15:33:15
Just before the ASEAN Sumit, Khmer PM said he would let TS stay in Cambodia, for extradiction treaty does not cover political conviction. He may even offer an adviser to PM position to TS. Abhisit then threated Khmer PM to concentrate only on the summit, or face the consequence of Thailand pull out its assistance to Cambodia if he would bring TS case up to the public again. Hun Sen did keep quiet, and Thai PM thinked he had won. Then early this week, the Khmer King Sihamuni endorsed the appointment of TS to PM advisory post. Abhisit is enraged. Firt he said it will not effect the two countries relation. Dr. Panithan saying the same, but added there would be some complication in the relation. A few hours later, Abhisit order teh Thai Ambasador pull out, and a review to all agreement/ treaties it has with Cambodia. My points is it is true to many that TS case is a political motivate, so my dear Abhisit had made a wrong move threatening Khmer PM. And it blown up out of proportion to pull back the ambassodor for TS appointment. Now for me, Abisit is as a child throwing tantrum, and TS would be viewed as a traitor by many Thai if he accept the post. Two Thais loss their status que, one Khmer PM is able to rid dependency to neighbour country, make himself a braveheart David who breaks the giant.
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