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Just Been Denied Duty Free Import Of Personal Household Effects
Started by Marvo, 2009-11-10 19:41
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87 replies to this topic
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ZenHillbillyPoet22
Member Posted 2009-11-23 09:37:04
Update: OK, news from the shippers. Going back to even before my effects had been collected from their point of origin, the shipper's office in Europe didn't have a "weight" figure on the packing list and invoice supplied to them so when they drew up the "Bill of Landing" somebody in their office just "guessed" at 11,000Kg! Now a new Bill of Landing has to be drawn up by the shipper's European office and re-submitted to customs in Bangkok, effectively starting the whole process from scratch - except that someone is going to have to pay some storage and demurage fees  .Yes, when I first saw the documents you posted I thought this was strange. 11 tons of personal effects would most certainly lead the customs department to believe something funny was going on. The documents do need to be reissued from the point of origin, but I would recommend talking to your agents on both sides. Since this was not your fault you shouldn't be held responsible for any charges incurred because of this (or any duty/taxes for that matter). Sorry to hear that you're having all these problems but stay calm and be persistent. Eventually you'll get all your stuff. #78
chuenyongman
Advanced Member Posted 2009-11-25 13:05:33
sounds like you had some bad advice from your original shipper, as others have said negotiate. I was a couple of weeks over the 6 month window on arrival (most other countries have the same time limit btw) but my shippers view was there was no way Thai customs would accept duty free import, they are very strict on time limits, so i was told.They got the Thai end to negotiate while still at sea. In the end got a reasonably valuable container in for a 36000 bt fee on a "dont open the box basis". The Thai end was Asia Tigers who were first class btw Dear Marvo and Sibeymai, My container is on it's way from Australia. I would appreciate some advice on how you acheived your goods with small fee. I live in Surin. Could you please contact me Thank you Gerry. #79
hhgz
Super Member Posted 2009-11-25 15:31:28
"Dear Marvo...My container is on it's way from Australia. I would appreciate some advice on how you acheived your goods with small fee."
You haven't been following this discussion closely enough. Marvo still hasn't received his container, and he's still wringing his hands. #80
mahtin
board stiff member Posted 2009-11-25 15:39:13
Maybe ("with small fee" ??) Sibey would respond to a PM?
Edited by mahtin, 2009-11-25 15:40:00. #81
Marvo
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-25 18:40:47
"Dear Marvo...My container is on it's way from Australia. I would appreciate some advice on how you acheived your goods with small fee." You haven't been following this discussion closely enough. Marvo still hasn't received his container, and he's still wringing his hands. 
#82
AdmiralKen
Member Posted 2009-11-28 06:18:40
A full 40 foot container (just under 400 boxes) just left my home in Sydney bound for Thailand .... I'll advise what happens when it gets there (fingers crossed).
Im using Wridgeways and Asia Tigers as the shippers .... Cheers  2SS
#83
Marvo
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-28 08:55:32
Final Update:
Well, my little import saga has finally drawn to a close and all the deals have been done. Here's a quick run-down of how everything unwound on the final day at Customs. I was expecting fireworks as I had to tell customs that everything had to be sorted Friday as I leave (with my passport) for Europe on Monday. This effectively put me over the proverbial barrel with my pants down. On Customs "decision day" I decided to send the girlfriend on the 8hr round trip to the customs office at the port (UniThai Container Terminal), to see what influence she could achieve, which turned out to be the right move. She was in there for SIX HOURS! would you believe while they shuffled and stamped all of their papers, but she got the result! DUTY FREE IMPORT OF MY HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND PERSONAL EFFECTS. Another little tell-tale of what I was up against was that the shippers asked me to pay the sum of 9,300 Baht for the 14 days container storage and demurage. But the port office asked my girlfriend to pay the for the 14 days container storage and demurage. How much? I hear you ask... 4,600 Baht! That says it all I guess. I was being right royally shafted by the shipping company. The container was opened at the port for inspection and the contents matched my declared packing list exactly, so that was it - no duty thank you very much, at the end of a very long day. My girlfriend left home at 7:00 in the morning and got back 11:00 in the evening but it was the most productive day's work of her (and my) life. So, to re-cap: • Shipping agent inserted wrong weight (10x) on paperwork. • Customs didn't believe that my "11 ton" cargo was household and personal effects (not surprising). • Shipper just told me they couldn't gain duty free import for spurious reasons already sighted. • Shipper told me to pay 85,000 baht duty. • I told shipper where to stick their 85,000 baht. • Shipper waited until the day before I'm due to leave Thailand before re-submitting corrected Bill of Lading, invoice, packing list etc. to Customs. • Girlfriend spent 6 hrs re-stating my case at the port Customs office. • Container opened, inspected, closed, signed off. • OP climbs off the barrel and pulls his trousers back up - orifice still intact  .• Container delivered to my door 13 hours later. • Total cost: Whatever my girlfriend wants  . I hope my experience is of some use to someone out there and I thank all those of you who have supported me through my "ordeal". Good luck to those of you moving your stuff to Thailand and don't let the bar stewards grind you down  .
#84
JusMe
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-28 11:36:30
Exceptional Work! Congratulations, Marvo!
Not sure if you mentioned it earlier - several pages in this thread over many days - but it might be a good idea to tell us the name of the shipper who was screwing you over. Others could avoid them. Again, well done! #85
hhgz
Super Member Posted 2009-11-28 12:12:53
"Well, my little import saga has finally drawn to a close..."
Reading the summary, it's obvious that your SHIPPING COMPANY, not Customs was the source of all of your problems. I think you owe the Customs folks a big apology. #86
Marvo
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-28 13:19:28
"Well, my little import saga has finally drawn to a close..." Reading the summary, it's obvious that your SHIPPING COMPANY, not Customs was the source of all of your problems. I think you owe the Customs folks a big apology.  .
#87
ericthai
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-28 13:55:39
"Well, my little import saga has finally drawn to a close..." Reading the summary, it's obvious that your SHIPPING COMPANY, not Customs was the source of all of your problems. I think you owe the Customs folks a big apology. .Marvo, Glad you finally got everything worked out. Anytime you are dealing with importing goods into Thailand it's always best to go to customs yourself, or a have a very good Thai friend that you can trust to go speak to customs. As we all know this is Thailand and most things are negotiable, having a third party in the picture only increases your chances of paying way more than what you should really pay. Guess you owe your GF something big... #88
mahtin
board stiff member Posted 2009-11-28 21:24:12
She's a keeper - but you know that.
Thanks for posting.
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