Can't recommend enough to buy a good tyre pressure gauge and leave it in your car. Check the pressures yourself about every 1-2 months and before every long trip and teach your wife how to do it if she drives the car.
Worthwhile checking the manufacureres website if you change brands to see what their recommended inflation is and put extra in the back if carrying a heavy laod. Use your common sense and don't go over the max pressure.
I got 90k out of the Duellers on my 4x4 vigo and ran them at 29 - 31.
I put Michelin cross terrains on and they seem happier at 32/3 max is 35.
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Tire Pressure
Started by raro, 2009-11-14 12:03
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36 replies to this topic
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katabeachbum
Star Member Posted 2009-12-15 09:47:34
Can't recommend enough to buy a good tyre pressure gauge and leave it in your car. Check the pressures yourself about every 1-2 months and before every long trip and teach your wife how to do it if she drives the car. Worthwhile checking the manufacureres website if you change brands to see what their recommended inflation is and put extra in the back if carrying a heavy laod. Use your common sense and don't go over the max pressure. I got 90k out of the Duellers on my 4x4 vigo and ran them at 29 - 31. I put Michelin cross terrains on and they seem happier at 32/3 max is 35. If you run Michelin Cross Terrain at 29-29 (31 heavy loaded) they will return same 90k km lifetime. #28
MikeyIdea
Super Member Posted 2009-12-15 09:58:57
Katabeachbum, you didn't live in a country where they have free speed on the motorways, no need
 Everything in life is a compromise, every design is a compromise. You cannot design to suit all scenarios, there is nothing strange in increasing tire pressure a bit when pushing tires to make them stay within design temperature. With H tires in Thailand, I recommend increasing pressure 10% when driving long distance at 150-160 km/h or over. Edited by MikeyIdea, 2009-12-15 10:02:08. #29
katabeachbum
Star Member Posted 2009-12-15 10:19:19
Katabeachbum, you didn't live in a country where they have free speed on the motorways, no need Everything in life is a compromise, every design is a compromise. You cannot design to suit all scenarios, there is nothing strange in increasing tire pressure a bit when pushing tires to make them stay within design temperature. With H tires in Thailand, I recommend increasing pressure 10% when driving long distance at 150-160 km/h or over. Autobahn to Switserland or Brennerpass several times a year. Never liked to cruise faster than 200kmh though. Used to work for a high end car manufactorer, and I know how many years and millions of km have been done to find correct tyre pressure (among other things). In principal I agree higher pressure is needed when extreme conditions, but I dont see average TV driver adjust pressure for a 10 hours ride BKK-Phuket, and then adjust it again when arriving Phuket to have correct pressure while in Phuket. 10 years back I used to do, but I v become lazy and modern tyres 45 profile and up seems less sensitive on pressure. Door sticker pressure seems to work fine in all driving conditions. But then again, I dont like to push the tyres. S=180kmh is 160 limit for me. V=240 is 210 limit for me. After all, these classifications are with airtemp 25C #30
MikeyIdea
Super Member Posted 2009-12-15 10:32:34
I admit that I am getting lazier and lazier as the years go by, I increase pressure before leavling Bangkok and don't bother to reduce it when I get back from Phuket now-a-days
Tires seem to loose pressure faster in Thailand than in northern Europe, petrol station gauges are so inaccurate that not even God knows what the real pressure is... Mai pen rai la...
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katabeachbum
Star Member Posted 2009-12-15 10:56:20
I admit that I am getting lazier and lazier as the years go by, I increase pressure before leavling Bangkok and don't bother to reduce it when I get back from Phuket now-a-days Tires seem to loose pressure faster in Thailand than in northern Europe, petrol station gauges are so inaccurate that not even God knows what the real pressure is... Mai pen rai la... Hey Mikey, get your own pressure gauge, like 120-200 baht Thai made tyres, even with European and japs brand names and designs identical as those sold in Europe, are not the same quality. Higher content of natural rubber. Loose pressure faster, less traction, more squeeling noise and very long lifetime. 225/50-17 Michelin Pilot would never last more than 30-50k km back home, but here they are still fine at 70k+ km. Amazing at these temperatures. #32
MikeyIdea
Super Member Posted 2009-12-15 13:27:27
Kiikiet...
I bought 4 new Goodyear Assurance a couple of months ago, finally threw away the old Pirellis that came with the car, RIP and don't ever wake up again please... Bying premium tires is not that much more expensive in Thailand, difference is smaller than in Europe it seems, and I think it is really worth it. The ride is smoother, quieter. better grip, especially in the wet. I bought cheap new tires to the old car but decided to buy good ones this time and I can highly recommend Goodyear Assurance. It's really worth 400 - 500 bath per tire considering how many years they stay on. Edited by MikeyIdea, 2009-12-15 13:35:12. #33
MikeyIdea
Super Member Posted 2009-12-15 15:19:57
It's really worth 400 - 500 bath EXTRA per tire considering how many years they stay on (the difference between cheap and very good)
Getting old or something... #34
raro
The quality poster you can trust! Posted 2009-12-15 16:42:26
Kiikiet... I bought 4 new Goodyear Assurance a couple of months ago, finally threw away the old Pirellis that came with the car, RIP and don't ever wake up again please... Bying premium tires is not that much more expensive in Thailand, difference is smaller than in Europe it seems, and I think it is really worth it. The ride is smoother, quieter. better grip, especially in the wet. I bought cheap new tires to the old car but decided to buy good ones this time and I can highly recommend Goodyear Assurance. It's really worth 400 - 500 bath per tire considering how many years they stay on. cannot really confirm this...had Michelins on the Jazz and they lasted 35,000 - same as the much cheaper Maxxis which had also more grip than the Michelins. #35
Bung
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-15 22:18:14
Can't recommend enough to buy a good tyre pressure gauge and leave it in your car. Check the pressures yourself about every 1-2 months and before every long trip and teach your wife how to do it if she drives the car. Worthwhile checking the manufacureres website if you change brands to see what their recommended inflation is and put extra in the back if carrying a heavy laod. Use your common sense and don't go over the max pressure. I got 90k out of the Duellers on my 4x4 vigo and ran them at 29 - 31. I put Michelin cross terrains on and they seem happier at 32/3 max is 35. If you run Michelin Cross Terrain at 29-29 (31 heavy loaded) they will return same 90k km lifetime. I figured they would run at the same pressures as the Duellers but the steering felt too heavy. Probably just the fact that the new tyre had a lot more grippy meat on the road than the old worn ones. I am very fussy about tyre pressures! #36
katabeachbum
Star Member Posted 2009-12-16 09:07:30
Can't recommend enough to buy a good tyre pressure gauge and leave it in your car. Check the pressures yourself about every 1-2 months and before every long trip and teach your wife how to do it if she drives the car. Worthwhile checking the manufacureres website if you change brands to see what their recommended inflation is and put extra in the back if carrying a heavy laod. Use your common sense and don't go over the max pressure. I got 90k out of the Duellers on my 4x4 vigo and ran them at 29 - 31. I put Michelin cross terrains on and they seem happier at 32/3 max is 35. If you run Michelin Cross Terrain at 29-29 (31 heavy loaded) they will return same 90k km lifetime. I figured they would run at the same pressures as the Duellers but the steering felt too heavy. Probably just the fact that the new tyre had a lot more grippy meat on the road than the old worn ones. I am very fussy about tyre pressures! Yepp, the cross terrains have much more grip on the road, brakes better. Unfortunately more heavy steering too. The new Duellers are great though, just took delivery on a new Vigo with 17 inch new Dueller. More road biased, more quiet and much more traction on road. Probably useless offroad. #37
MikeyIdea
Super Member Posted 2009-12-16 09:50:26
Kiikiet... I bought 4 new Goodyear Assurance a couple of months ago, finally threw away the old Pirellis that came with the car, RIP and don't ever wake up again please... Bying premium tires is not that much more expensive in Thailand, difference is smaller than in Europe it seems, and I think it is really worth it. The ride is smoother, quieter. better grip, especially in the wet. I bought cheap new tires to the old car but decided to buy good ones this time and I can highly recommend Goodyear Assurance. It's really worth 400 - 500 bath per tire considering how many years they stay on. |
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