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#1 sassienie

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Posted 2009-11-22 00:02:18

In Thailand, most main road signs and city direction signs, plus many shop signs even in the country areas are not only in Thai, but also in English.

WHY?

I realise that English is supposed to be the second language of Thailand, but I would guess that the majority of Thais cannot speak English and even more are unable to read and write English. Being as English is used for road signs all over the country is a mystery to me.

So is there anyone out there that is in the knowledge and can explain why English text is used so widely in Thailand.

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#2 ballzafire

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Posted 2009-11-22 00:13:37

...I realise that English is supposed to be the second language of Thailand, but ...

And below your username are the words "Intelligent Member"?

Seriously, sassienie, what's to question?

#3 BboyRusty

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Posted 2009-11-22 00:14:59

This could possibly be due to the idea that English is one of the commonly used languages internationaly.

#4 ukrules

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Posted 2009-11-22 00:16:59

This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language. Just ask any airline pilot what language they need to use on the radios, it's English, everywhere. I read that some French pilots sometimes stick to French when in their own country, this practice should be outlawed as other pilots can't understand what's going on !

#5 jazvisa

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Posted 2009-11-22 00:20:21

View Postukrules, on 2009-11-22 00:16:59, said:

I read that some French pilots sometimes stick to French when in their own country,

if thats true then thats pretty funny :)

#6 ballzafire

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Posted 2009-11-22 00:25:01

View Postukrules, on 2009-11-21 17:16:59, said:

This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language....

That's a bit of an exaggeration. Not true by a long-shot.

#7 sassienie

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Posted 2009-11-22 00:30:31

View Postballzafire, on 2009-11-22 00:13:37, said:

...I realise that English is supposed to be the second language of Thailand, but ...

And below your username are the words "Intelligent Member"?

Seriously, sassienie, what's to question?

Yes, I do realise that internationally English is most used for communication between international communities, and I can understand this is required in the main city areas, but why in Thailand is English text so widely used including the rural areas?

#8 ballzafire

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Posted 2009-11-22 00:48:26

View Postsassienie, on 2009-11-21 17:30:31, said:

View Postballzafire, on 2009-11-22 00:13:37, said:

...I realise that English is supposed to be the second language of Thailand, but ... And below your username are the words "Intelligent Member"? Seriously, sassienie, what's to question?
Yes, I do realise that internationally English is most used for communication between international communities, and I can understand this is required in the main city areas, but why in Thailand is English text so widely used including the rural areas?

Uh, I dunno, professor.

Could someone else answer that one, please?

Maybe one of you out there has some insight into sassienie's burning question here...

#9 Jingthing

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Posted 2009-11-22 00:57:03

View Postballzafire, on 2009-11-22 00:25:01, said:

View Postukrules, on 2009-11-21 17:16:59, said:

This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language....

That's a bit of an exaggeration. Not true by a long-shot.
Yeah sure. So which language is?

#10 ballzafire

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Posted 2009-11-22 01:06:03

View PostJingthing, on 2009-11-21 17:57:03, said:

View Postballzafire, on 2009-11-22 00:25:01, said:

View Postukrules, on 2009-11-21 17:16:59, said:

This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language....
That's a bit of an exaggeration. Not true by a long-shot.
Yeah sure. So which language is?

There are many cultures that trade amongst themselves without the need to use English. It should be pretty obvious to anyone who's had any schooling...

#11 Jingthing

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Posted 2009-11-22 01:13:43

View Postballzafire, on 2009-11-22 01:06:03, said:

View PostJingthing, on 2009-11-21 17:57:03, said:

View Postballzafire, on 2009-11-22 00:25:01, said:

View Postukrules, on 2009-11-21 17:16:59, said:

This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language....
That's a bit of an exaggeration. Not true by a long-shot.
Yeah sure. So which language is?

There are many cultures that trade amongst themselves without the need to use English. It should be pretty obvious to anyone who's had any schooling...
Sorry I dropped out at age 10. Obviously we are talking about international trading. There is no doubt whatsoever the standard language for that is English. There is no other language that even comes close. Of course its a big world with many exceptions. An Argentinian trading with a Spaniard would likely use Spanish.

I see the globalization of English everyday here in Pattaya. Observe the German speaking bad English chatting with his new Thai friend, also in bad English. It warms the heart.

Edited by Jingthing, 2009-11-22 01:15:56.


#12 londonthai

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Posted 2009-11-22 01:16:16

as thai script is used only in one country, it's good that an international language is used as well. Even if in the rural areas there are not many foreigners, but still those signs are encouraging tourists to venture further from the bitten track and explore the whole country.

as to english language reading skills - they are greater than speaking, that's why there are so many shops with english signs

Edited by londonthai, 2009-11-22 01:18:03.


#13 Moonrakers

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Posted 2009-11-22 01:48:50

Simple answer: = Why not.

The signs have to be made anyway whether they have English or not and so I suspect that the extra cost is negligible.

#14 manarak

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Posted 2009-11-22 03:15:02

don't forget Thailand is near China and Vietnam.

In Germany, all roads also have US military / NATO signs which regulate traffic, defining on which lanes tanks should drive, etc.

I am sure road signs in english are very helpful to western forces in case of a conflict.

#15 Sophon

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Posted 2009-11-22 03:31:56

Everyone is referring to it as "English texts" but in reality it is not but rather transliterated Thai. If it were English the sign would say "Khao San Road" not "Thanon Khao San".

I don't know why the road signs also have the names in western script, I'm just happy they do :) .

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#16 ballzafire

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Posted 2009-11-22 03:45:33

View Postmanarak, on 2009-11-21 15:15:02, said:

don't forget Thailand is near China and Vietnam. In Germany, all roads also have US military / NATO signs which regulate traffic, defining on which lanes tanks should drive, etc. I am sure road signs in english are very helpful to western forces in case of a conflict.

Nah. They'd rely on GPS...

#17 tw25rw

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Posted 2009-11-22 04:03:33

Those signs don't have English words on them, only Romanised Thai.

#18 Tilokarat

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Posted 2009-11-22 04:16:37

don't forget Thailand is near China and Vietnam.

Yes...so...Thailand is also near Laos, Burma, Cambodia and Malaysia.


#19 garyh

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Posted 2009-11-22 04:25:50

Imagine the threads on TV whinging about road signs if they where only in Thai!

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Posted 2009-11-22 05:24:26

View PostJingthing, on 2009-11-22 02:13:43, said:

I see the globalization of English everyday here in Pattaya. Observe the German speaking bad English chatting with his new Thai friend, also in bad English. It warms the heart.

That's right, of course I was referring to international trade.

Once I sat waiting at a border crossing in a place called 'Rafah', the wait was several hours while a convoy built up prior to a long trip across the wastelands of Egypt and onto Cairo. I remember talking to lots of people from different countries all around the world as the hours passed by. They all spoke English with varying degrees of skill. Being a typical lazy Brit of course I only speak English which is all I needed. It is a strange sight to see people from lots of different countries talking to each other in English.

#21 Old Croc

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Posted 2009-11-22 05:41:25

I remember driving through a little place called Wales.

If they didn't have English on the road signs as well as the local language I would never have found my way out!

#22 Jaydillon

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Posted 2009-11-22 05:57:06

I am ever so glad that the second language in Thailand is English,and NOT French or German :)

#23 Maejo Man

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Posted 2009-11-22 07:21:05

View Postgaryh, on 2009-11-22 04:25:50, said:

Imagine the threads on TV whinging about road signs if they where only in Thai!


When I first came here, ALL the road

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Posted 2009-11-22 07:23:53

View Postgaryh, on 2009-11-22 04:25:50, said:

Imagine the threads on TV whinging about road signs if they where only in Thai!


When I first came here, ALL road signs were in Thai, there was no English. It was a case of learn to read Thai, or stay lost :)

#25 tw25rw

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Posted 2009-11-22 07:51:30

The most common 2nd language is English for now. The next generation might learn Chinese instead. Good luck learning to read that.



 


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