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Is Patong Finishedbad news again
Started by mrukman, 2009-11-24 02:50
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Advanced Member Posted 2009-11-24 02:50:32
Having read other site's 1 particuler in Phuket it wpuld appear that Patong is in the news again for rhe wrong reasons yet again. Another gang shooting i dead near cape panwa, price's out of control in Patong, the imigration chief arresting the welcoming commitee with a plane full of aussies comeing through the airport, an aussie scammed and jailed after being set up by a stoolie resulting in a bribe to get him out of prison and the best back to the bad old jet ski scam after 2 jet skis collide outside a resort that didnt want to be name'd. Yes good old phuket just can't stop putting its foot in. Is it hel_l bent on driving what tourist it has away.,
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Advanced Member Posted 2009-11-24 02:58:01
Hi, i read about the gang shooting, but can you be a bit more specific about the Aussie scammed by a stoolie ???
Sorry but i was very busy these last days and i am not aware of that !! For me yes, Patong is finished...I ve got some grapes on me, banana too, but i am not in the game any more. Just too expensive bro ! 
Edited by maluko, 2009-11-24 02:58:36. #3
If Carlsberg did Thaivisa members.... Posted 2009-11-24 03:26:50
what s the story about the plane full of oz's being arrested?
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Phuket Rider Connection Posted 2009-11-24 05:05:30
what s the story about the plane full of oz's being arrested? It wasnt a plane full of ozzies, it was a welcome wagon of sorts for the new ozzie flight. For some reason they ruffled the feathers of a new immigration chief at the airport because they were allowed in past security checkpoints by the gaurds when the rules are you must have a boarding pass or special permission which they didn't have, even though security escorted them in as they always have in the past. In fact no one really got "arrested" in the sense we usually imagine. They were surrounded by security and detained breifly. My guess is whoever was in charge of the welcome wagon said something to cause the immigration guy to loose face, and we all know what happens when a Thai man in a position of authority losses face. Sounds like he got in a bit of trouble for it in the end. More dramatic was the "gang shooting" actually it was a group of 5 guys, unknown if they were actually gang memebrs, that were trying to pawn off a stolen statute when the cops saw them and took chase. One guy was shoot near or in the water at Suan Luang park and his body was floating for some time. So it wasn't a "gang shooting" it was the cops chasing and shootng at a "gang of 5 men." And no I don't think Patong is finished. It appears to be as busy as ever. I think very few tourists are aware of the issues you mentioned, none of which, with exception to the high prices, actually occurred in Patong Edited by Scubabuddha, 2009-11-24 05:18:46. #5
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-24 07:21:53
dont be daft, its full every year people love it here.
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Kata Posted 2009-11-24 08:33:42
dont be daft, its full every year people love it here. #7
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-24 08:35:52
Patong looked great after the tsunami, clear beach and no tuk-tuks along the road. But now back same same, no different. Pity. But the rubes keep pouring in and the sheep get fleeced. Phuket is still here and going all too strong.
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Shaved Member Posted 2009-11-24 08:52:16
More dramatic was the "gang shooting" actually it was a group of 5 guys, unknown if they were actually gang memebrs, that were trying to pawn off a stolen statute when the cops saw them and took chase. One guy was shoot near or in the water at Suan Luang park and his body was floating for some time. So it wasn't a "gang shooting" it was the cops chasing and shootng at a "gang of 5 men." Were they even armed ?? Did they fire back ?? Who fired first ?? #9
Shaved Member Posted 2009-11-24 08:53:10
Top marks for the first poster to use the phrase 'nail in the coffin'..
Whatever you think of Patong, its the goto place on a goto island and has reached a kind of critical mass / snowball effect that will not be reversed. What that does in terms of greed and pricing as land owners try to cash in on that greed with a 3rd world here for the now mentality, thats all debatable to the residents, but the hordes will keep coming, hence russian hookers and gogos, 230 baht hienekens, >3m baht 3 year beer bar key money, touts scamming 500 baht drink premiums, etc etc etc. The separation of tourists (farangs) and their money is here to stay. #10
Platinum Member Posted 2009-11-24 09:18:01
HI
For sure expensive in Patong, a girl i know just got a tour desk, about 2x2 meters on Beach rd, just a desk nothing else, 250.000 key and 40.000 a month. #11
Shaved Member Posted 2009-11-24 09:22:18
Exactly, so what price must her tours be to cover those costs.. Its all a viscous cycle.
I hear now even the Meridien is getting in on the act.. Scamming with russian hookers !! Mind blowing.. #12
Platinum Member Posted 2009-11-24 10:17:39
Exactly, so what price must her tours be to cover those costs.. Its all a viscous cycle. #13
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-24 10:28:20
dont be daft, its full every year people love it here. #14
Shaved Member Posted 2009-11-24 11:10:59
Exactly, so what price must her tours be to cover those costs.. Its all a viscous cycle. Yes but maybe I wasnt being clear, what we she do to try not to get closed out and lose her investment ?? Desperate people do desperate things, so shes put in a position where she will A) have to charge higher margins, B ) maybe tack on a few additional charges C) delve into scamming and gouging just to try to make the rent on the operation. Thats the viscious cycle, add in that theres a police force that will never or rarely back up the tourist on behalf of the Thai, and it makes a situation where locals are almost encouraged to push as hard as they can even to the point of rip offs. #15
Platinum Member Posted 2009-11-24 11:22:33
Hi
Will see if i can update on this, she is not stupid, she now has 3 tour desk in Patong, on flight ticket they dont make a lot, but on tours they make good money, you know Simon C, FantaSea, that stuff gives good money and when they go to the big pearl market ETC they get up to 30%. Forgot,,, they dont need any stock in a tour desk 
Edited by HDRIDER, 2009-11-24 11:24:07. #16
Platinum Member Posted 2009-11-24 12:00:05 Quote but on tours they make good money, you know Simon C, FantaSea, that stuff gives good money and when they go to the big pearl market ETC they get up to 30%. Edited by stevenl, 2009-11-24 12:17:44. #17
Shaved Member Posted 2009-11-24 13:11:39
what s the story about the plane full of oz's being arrested? More dramatic was the "gang shooting" actually it was a group of 5 guys, unknown if they were actually gang memebrs, that were trying to pawn off a stolen statute when the cops saw them and took chase. One guy was shoot near or in the water at Suan Luang park and his body was floating for some time. So it wasn't a "gang shooting" it was the cops chasing and shootng at a "gang of 5 men." And no I don't think Patong is finished. It appears to be as busy as ever. I think very few tourists are aware of the issues you mentioned, none of which, with exception to the high prices, actually occurred in Patong Dont fuc_k with the bigwigs, far too important to be held to normal rules !! #18
Advanced Member Posted 2009-11-24 18:28:35
I read a report that the head of the hotel association said only last week that because of the drop of tourist numbers he is worried that staff will lose there jobs and crime will increase as the projected figures for this high season are way down on jast year. My thead was about the negative PR not about people setting up buisness. The german guy scammed was set up on the bangla by holding a few ciggerettes for a thai guy in a packet that contained a small ammount of cannabis inside it. the thai guy( his excuse) was he was going to get another packet. low and behold bib turned up and arrested him and tried to charge him with supplying. It was the old threat of a long jail term till his trial ie flight booked that he was forced to pay the bribe to realease him after 3 days. That jj was reportedly still awaiting trial or has that little scam been hushed up by the powers that be as the local authoroties now want you tube banned showing the scams. Would it not be a fare opinion to suggest that expats living in or around patong are blinkered and unaware of the deep rooted problems that still persist that are keeping numbers away. And why are the price's out of proportion compared to krabi - pattayya etc. In the economic problem the locals still put up prices in high season and shoot themselves maybe when a few have gone to the wall they might listen but on past record I doubt this will happen. I cannot print the forum name but as an example a dozen long term visitors to phuket that have been going to the same resort for the last 4 years have this year decided to go elsewhere this christmas because in there words, Phuket and in particuler patong has become the rip off and scam island of Thailand.
Edited by mrukman, 2009-11-24 18:31:57. #19
Platinum Member Posted 2009-11-24 18:37:41
Quote but on tours they make good money, you know Simon C, FantaSea, that stuff gives good money and when they go to the big pearl market ETC they get up to 30%. The 30% is when she get customer to pearl factory, jewellery shop and all that, will find out if its 1 or 3 years #20
The consensus is that I am most excellent. Posted 2009-11-24 20:39:12
Patong is just giving the tourists what they want and demand. I detest jetskis, but if stupid ignorant tourists did not rent them, the rentals would stop. The touts swarm on Bangla because the tourists still stop and pose for photos with endangered animals and buy the poor quality suits, the tourists still buy over priced cigarettes from vendors because they are too lazy to walk down the stairs to the Big 1 in the plaza, the hookers still affix their grimy claws on guys' arms because some men will take the hideous disease carriers back to their flophouse rental. Yes, I loathe such scenes, but as long as there is a market for such things, the situation will persist. It's like the drug trade. If there weren't people purchasing the stuff, there would be no incentive to sell the poison.
One has the option of saying NO and walking on. It's not that hard and it's something most of us learnt to do long ago. Edited by geriatrickid, 2009-11-24 20:40:45. #21
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-24 20:44:42
Patong is just giving the tourists what they want and demand. I detest jetskis, but if stupid ignorant tourists did not rent them, the rentals would stop. The touts swarm on Bangla because the tourists still stop and pose for photos with endangered animals and buy the poor quality suits, the tourists still buy over priced cigarettes from vendors because they are too lazy to walk down the stairs to the Big 1 in the plaza, the hookers still affix their grimy claws on guys' arms because some men will take the hideous disease carriers back to their flophouse rental. Yes, I loathe such scenes, but as long as there is a market for such things, the situation will persist. It's like the drug trade. If there weren't people purchasing the stuff, there would be no incentive to sell the poison. One has the option of saying NO and walking on. It's not that hard and it's something most of us learnt to do long ago. Good post. Education, education. #22
Phuket Rider Connection Posted 2009-11-24 22:10:04
More dramatic was the "gang shooting" actually it was a group of 5 guys, unknown if they were actually gang memebrs, that were trying to pawn off a stolen statute when the cops saw them and took chase. One guy was shoot near or in the water at Suan Luang park and his body was floating for some time. So it wasn't a "gang shooting" it was the cops chasing and shootng at a "gang of 5 men." Were they even armed ?? Did they fire back ?? Who fired first ?? 3 good examples of questions that never get publicly asked and certainly not publicly answered. Tit. #23
Senior Member Posted 2009-11-25 00:40:22
some men will take the hideous disease carriers back to their flophouse rental  Beats me why these lass’s always insist that “yoo hab take showhar first”...seems a wee bit counter-productive to me if their ‘old badger’ isn’t in tip-top condition first...mmmmm....it'll be that pesky racism again...
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Phuket Rider Connection Posted 2009-11-25 00:49:30
some men will take the hideous disease carriers back to their flophouse rental Beats me why these lass's always insist that "yoo hab take showhar first"...seems a wee bit counter-productive to me if their 'old badger' isn't in tip-top condition first...mmmmm....it'll be that pesky racism again...Because this is the time they steal 1000B from your wallet....er..someone told me once. 
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Senior Member Posted 2009-11-25 00:56:14
It's fairly simple, high foot traffic location equals more sales, no reason she has to charge any more than others.
Patong seems busy to me, In fact Phuket seems to get busier and busier, not something i see changing in the future. |
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