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[justplainjoe]

GeeWee, on 2009-12-14 12:50:11, said:

Are they blocking Hotmail ? Because for the last 1,5 week it's difficult to reach hotmail as well as many other websites (website my bank in the Netherlands and so on)
I'm living in Central Pattaya and I use TTNT for my internetconnection.

Anybody has the some problems ?

I have had problems with hotmail too...

[moskito]

george, on 2009-12-14 13:25:16, said:

Twitter.com is now blocked by ICT. I am on CAT internet.

just checked all mentioned pages, everything is working fine here in Phuket with ToT...slowly as usual but ok.

Regarding the answers of the immi office.... THEY NEVER ANSWER Emails, I have tried it several times


Maybe try another Browser, Explorer is Cra_p anyway, so is Mozilla...(some adware found in Firefox)

get a REAL Browser, and still the best + FASTEST on the net...made in Norway     OPERA 10.1  DOWNLOAD



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the german GOOGLE show a warning under the Thaiimmigration link  -----if you click this page it can harm your PC

Edited by moskito, 2009-12-14 13:58:12.

[Phuket Stan]

All sites A OK with TTT in Phuket

[geovalin]

Sites US OK with TRUE in BKK
The only site down is... http://www.mict.go.th/ or http://mict.go.th/

[Changian]

I think we can have a good game here.  Which Thai government site does this Google Safe Browsing diagnostic page report on?

Quote

Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 202 time(s) over the past 90 days.

What happened when Google visited this site?

    Of the 12608 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 2150 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2009-12-13, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2009-12-13.

    Malicious software includes 1423 trojan(s), 813 scripting exploit(s), 117 exploit(s). Successful infection resulted in an average of 4 new process(es) on the target machine.

    
Has this site acted as an intermediary resulting in further distribution of malware?

    Over the past 90 days, xxxxxxxx appeared to function as an intermediary for the infection of 3 site(s)

Has this site hosted malware?

    Yes, this site has hosted malicious software over the past 90 days.

Any ideas? Looks like this site has  a few problems with internet security. . . . click here to find out.  

[baht&sold]

Tin Foil Hats Proven Ineffective

A recent study at MIT produced alarming results which throw the security of every paranoid person’s thoughts into question.

It seems that the tin-foil hat– often the brain’s only line of information defense– is ineffective for the task of blocking government-controlled frequencies. In fact, in some cases, these aluminum anti-intrusion devices actually amplify the radio waves.

Of course, this is all assuming the government isn’t manipulating this, to destroy the our confidence in the protective powers of tin-foil…


From the study’s web page: http://www.damninter...ven-ineffective




^^"It's not me, it's the paranoid ppl, they're after me"...^^

[dude]

Where are the forum moderators?
The headline for this thread is simply wrong. The gvnt. has NOT blocked those sites.

If you use TRUE, the sites load but without CSS (graphics and layout) if you switch to KSC, then the sites load just fine.

Just think a little, we had an almost 9 days of holidays behind us (many Thais took the entire last week off), and most people are using TRUE. Thus, the TRUE servers are having a difficult time to cope with the high load, now that everybody is back in the office.

If you run cmd and then tracert the IP of your 'blocked' site, you will see where it hangs.

Just give it a few hrs and it'll be fine again.

And to Thaivisa.com... pls start moderating your forums! I cannot believe that you actually sent this thread to your mailinglist before verifying it's correctness.

[opalhort]

I have no problem with any of the mentioned web-sites.

Tested in BKK on TRUE ADSL, CSLoxinfo dial-up and PacNet dial-up.

Only on the immigartion.go.th do I get a "Under construction" notice, hopefully this means they will finaly update their info.

opalhort

[sedeflonga]

Strange, can't get in CNN, Facebook but yahoo mail still works.

in status bar it shows: w3.mict.go.th it seems to wait for something from there but nothing happens



EDIT:

And now it works again -CNN.com

Edited by sedeflonga, 2009-12-14 14:15:57.

[FreedomDude]

dude, on 2009-12-14 13:51:52, said:

Where are the forum moderators?
The headline for this thread is simply wrong. The gvnt. has NOT blocked those sites.

If you use TRUE, the sites load but without CSS (graphics and layout) if you switch to KSC, then the sites load just fine.

Just think a little, we had an almost 9 days of holidays behind us (many Thais took the entire last week off), and most people are using TRUE. Thus, the TRUE servers are having a difficult time to cope with the high load, now that everybody is back in the office.

If you run cmd and then tracert the IP of your 'blocked' site, you will see where it hangs.

Just give it a few hrs and it'll be fine again.

And to Thaivisa.com... pls start moderating your forums! I cannot believe that you actually sent this thread to your mailinglist before verifying it's correctness.

KSC? cmd? tracert? English please!
I think your information could be helpful if I could only understand your lingo.
Thanks.

[kmj]

True in Bangkok is working fine for me (youtube, hotmail, twitter, CNN ++), no speed issues and IP trace shows no interceptions. can using a proxy be illegal ?? I have been using a proxy to get UK BBC TV and other tv channels for over a year now Ooops...

[Moonrakers]

baht&sold, on 2009-12-14 13:50:56, said:

Tin Foil Hats Proven Ineffective

A recent study at MIT produced alarming results which throw the security of every paranoid person's thoughts into question.

It seems that the tin-foil hat– often the brain's only line of information defense– is ineffective for the task of blocking government-controlled frequencies. In fact, in some cases, these aluminum anti-intrusion devices actually amplify the radio waves.

Of course, this is all assuming the government isn't manipulating this, to destroy the our confidence in the protective powers of tin-foil…


From the study's web page: http://www.damninter...ven-ineffective




^^"It's not me, it's the paranoid ppl, they're after me"...^^

Are you sure about that? THEY have not gotten to me yet and so my hat seems to be working just fine 

[yuyi]

I noticed a weird behavior and error message for a week or so already - depending on which route I use to browse, attempts to access sites outside of Thailand ended all in the same error message. That was clearly not intended, but an error. Possible reasons are:

• network misconfiguration at ISP
  
• network misconfiguration at the transparent proxy (used to watch you surfing)
  
• DNS misconfiguration at the censorship system (used to block websites)

Just now, after reading here, I tested accessing facebook.com, and it tried to forward to w3.mict.go.th, but timed out:

Quote

http://w3.mict.go.th/:[/url]

504 Connect to w3.mict.go.th:80 failed: Connection timed out

Running traceroutes to facebook showed nothing unusual though, just IPs from CAT, but then again, w3.mict.go.th uses 202.47.227.20 which shows up as CAT owned IP address, so there might be a mict IP in the route. Anyway, this behavior is most likely not happening at DNS level, but I assume at the transparent proxy they force us through.

My guess is that this is not an intentional block, but just a misconfiguration of the surveillance and censorship system, making the existence of these systems obvious. And the massive accesses due to this misconfiguration might overload the w3.mict.go.th server. a self made DOS attack ?

[sedeflonga]

kmj, on 2009-12-14 13:58:21, said:

True in Bangkok is working fine for me (youtube, hotmail, twitter, CNN ++), no speed issues and IP trace shows no interceptions. can using a proxy be illegal ?? I have been using a proxy to get UK BBC TV and other tv channels for over a year now Ooops...

I would say it would be more illegal to bann those sites. Free speech!!

[dude]

FreedomDude, on 2009-12-14 13:58:06, said:

dude, on 2009-12-14 13:51:52, said:

Where are the forum moderators?
The headline for this thread is simply wrong. The gvnt. has NOT blocked those sites.

If you use TRUE, the sites load but without CSS (graphics and layout) if you switch to KSC, then the sites load just fine.

Just think a little, we had an almost 9 days of holidays behind us (many Thais took the entire last week off), and most people are using TRUE. Thus, the TRUE servers are having a difficult time to cope with the high load, now that everybody is back in the office.

If you run cmd and then tracert the IP of your 'blocked' site, you will see where it hangs.

Just give it a few hrs and it'll be fine again.

And to Thaivisa.com... pls start moderating your forums! I cannot believe that you actually sent this thread to your mailinglist before verifying it's correctness.

KSC? cmd? tracert? English please!
I think your information could be helpful if I could only understand your lingo.
Thanks.

Hello

KSC is another internet provider in TH : just type ksc internet in google and you'll see.
cmd and tracert: Click on your Windows Start button and then click on run and type cmd
now you see a black window (DOS shell)
simply type tracert www.facebook.com (or any other site) and you will see the hops (routers/switches it connects to) it makes to from your computer to their server. If you use a different ISP, then there will be different hops. Traditionally, the TRUE routers have had problems and huge amount of package loss (data sent from the server to your computer is lost), thus the loading of CNN or flickr.com without images or layout (css).

Another nice tool that does this job is pingplotter (u can google for it)

[george]

dude, on 2009-12-14 13:51:52, said:

I cannot believe that you actually sent this thread to your mailinglist before verifying it's correctness.

Dude, we have certainly verified the content of the article with several members on diffrerent IPS's and locations. I also have this issue on my office computers and one standalone notebook.

As mentioned in the article, not all users are experiencing this issue.

[OxfordWill]

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[DP25]

dude, on 2009-12-14 13:51:52, said:

And to Thaivisa.com... pls start moderating your forums! I cannot believe that you actually sent this thread to your mailinglist before verifying it's correctness.

Just think how many page hits they will get.  The Thai government censoring prominent American news sources?  Everyone will click on that.  Much more interesting than 'Post holiday overload causes connection issues for some users'

[A_Traveller]

As noted before my view is that there is a failure rather than a fiendish plot.

Tracing route to facebook.com [69.63.184.142]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1     2 ms     2 ms     1 ms  DD-WRT [192.168.1.1]
  2    29 ms    29 ms    28 ms  125.24.104.1.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.24.104.1]
  3    27 ms    29 ms    28 ms  10.254.1.145
  4    28 ms    29 ms    28 ms  118.174.226.81.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [118.174.226.81]
  5    28 ms    28 ms    28 ms  203.113.127.53
  6    27 ms    30 ms    28 ms  203.113.127.54
  7    37 ms    28 ms    28 ms  203.113.24.241
  8    28 ms    28 ms    28 ms  203.113.24.234
  9    31 ms    32 ms    27 ms  61.19.10.13
10    38 ms    28 ms    28 ms  61.19.9.69
11    28 ms    31 ms    28 ms  61.19.9.30
12   253 ms   251 ms   249 ms  202.47.253.254
13   236 ms   238 ms   237 ms  facebook-RGE.hkix.net [202.40.161.110]
14   241 ms   241 ms   250 ms  xe-1-3-0.br02.sjc.tfbnw.net [204.15.23.235]
15   234 ms   254 ms   229 ms  xe-4-0-0.br01.sf2p.tfbnw.net [204.15.23.246]
16   304 ms   302 ms   302 ms  xe-1-1-0.br01.ash1.tfbnw.net [204.15.21.248]
17   303 ms   302 ms   302 ms  te-9-1.csw03a.ash1.tfbnw.net [204.15.23.85]
18   302 ms   302 ms   303 ms  www-10-03-ash1.facebook.com [69.63.184.142]

Though this trace ends at facebook.com the browser fails [attempting to load mict]

Regards
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Edited by A_Traveller, 2009-12-14 14:15:44.

[dude]

george, on 2009-12-14 14:03:12, said:

dude, on 2009-12-14 13:51:52, said:

I cannot believe that you actually sent this thread to your mailinglist before verifying it's correctness.

Dude, we have certainly verified the content of the article with several members on diffrerent IPS's and locations. I also have this issue on my office computers and one standalone notebook.

As mentioned in the article, not all users are experiencing this issue.

Hello,

Thanks for getting back. I was actually talking about the headline...

This is  not a gvnt issue but rather an ISP related issue.

anyways.. back to work.

[afx]

I'm back in the UK (not out of choice, need an operation).

So it's illegal to use proxies in Thailand, never knew that. Ok so I'll just use a VPN back to the UK and go out that way if I have a problem. PPTP isn't blocked on the firewall of the Thai ISP's I have used.

Can someone point me to where it's written down that it is against the law to use a proxy ? I would like to know the law on VPN's also, if it is the same, then I'll just RDP directly to a virtual machine and browse from there if I have a problem. If they did decide to block VPN ports, this would cause catastrophic damage to businesses based in Thailand who have VPN connections to their other international offices etc.

It's just a waste of time, anyone with a modicum of sense will get round this with ease. Even the Chinese are incapable of technically locking down the internet. They do not block VPN ports (PPTP & L2TP being the most commonly used), so blocking a list of IP's to twitter, youtube, hotmail etc is a waste of time when there are innumerate ways to get round this.

[Samuian]

Turkish, on 2009-12-14 12:26:50, said:

I have CNN and Facebook no problem. with True

Same, same with CAT!

[sedeflonga]

Was just talking to a senior admin from CAT and he told me that he has no problem to connect to CNN, Facebook.

I checked it out right now, it works. Must have been some DNS problem from their site

[markusz]

"Reported as attack site"  -->  Same story already happend on the BOI-Website in January 2009!

[sedeflonga]

markusz, on 2009-12-14 14:18:23, said:

"Reported as attack site"  -->  Same story already happend on the BOI-Website in January 2009!

Actualy, the 'attack site' problem comes from students which using 'go.th' websites and running a lot of spam/scam/...'
I saw those block for a few years already. That immigration site is blocked because someone might have flagged it at mozilla
as bad -for whatever reason.