Jatuporn's audience is not readers of TV, The Nation or the Bangkok Post and he is under heavy pressure from the boss and in competition with other red shirt leaders to raise the political temperature, so that can cash cheques written on the boss's frozen assets. The boss likes the idea of alleged assassination conspiracies against him because it is a great way to drum up sympathy from the masses and he is naturally paranoid anyway. The allegations don't need to be presented in a credible way because newspapers and the analysis they provide have a very low penetration with his target audience, which gets its information largely from TV soundbites.
For all the alleged assassination plots against Thaksin that have failed to get off the ground, the red shirts have came a lot closer to "getting rid of" Abhisit in April and some one got also got very close to doing Sondhi. Incidentally what has happened to the investigation into the Sondhi assassination attempt that was last heard of as being within days of arresting the masterminds?
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Thai Government Alleged Plan To Kill Thaksin
Started by webfact, 2009-12-24 07:02
#52
TAWP
Libertarian Member Posted 2009-12-24 11:56:23
Kasit Files Criminal Charges Against Jatuporn
UPDATE : 24 December 2009 Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya has pressed criminal charges against DAAD leader Jatuporn Phrompan for revealing confidential ministry documents. Libel charges also being launched. http://www.tannetwor...?DataID=1022775 #53
chrislarsson
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 11:56:46
The Nazis talked about the "final solution". I guess that could not possibly mean that someone would be harmed.
#54
WAERTH
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 11:59:40
Thaksin should have been tackled a long time ago. Either in prison or a more "permanent" solution.
To those crying about "democracy" etc above look at the history of your own countries. People are removed forcefully, even by democratic governments. #55
dom samui
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 12:01:36
Aren't you all tired to answer , comment ,and argue to the guy who spend all his day to copy and paste what is written in Nation's website?
#56
Siripon
Super Member Posted 2009-12-24 12:06:02
Thaksin has cried wolf so many times he should be ho(a)rse by now.
I remember the malfunctioning exploding compressor on a plane that Thaksin claimed was a bomb by disgruntled drug barons, his boasts how proud he would be to be buried in a coffin wrapped with the Thai flag. The 'car bomb' near Sang Hee bridge. Compare him to Apisit's calm demeanour, for instance, the rumour is the same team who hatched an assassination bid against a Privy councillor a few months ago were contracted to 'eliminate' Apisit in Chiang Mai recently. But Apisit didn't jump up and down screaming for sympathy. #57
chrislarsson
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 12:19:32
3) At the time of the vote, SIXTY PERCENT (60%) of the country WAS under martial law and not allowed to vote, which left only FORTY PERCENT (40%) of voters eligible, and even then it was passed by the BAREST of margins. What on earth are you talking about? First of all, the nation was NOT under martial law in any general sense at the time of the election. And even if they would have declared it, which they did not, people would still be allowed to vote! Who feeds you this nonsense? Does it really matter? Everything in the process of this constitution was full of irregularities, from the selection of the drafting committee to the referendum itself. Everybody were allowed to vote, but criticizing the draft was made a criminal act, so no public debate was possible. If people voted no, the junta would just pass any constitution of their liking instead. This referendum was no more democratic than the elections held in the Soviet Union. #58
baht&sold
Un-welcome 'classified' member Posted 2009-12-24 12:52:01
GOOGLE: 'Thaksin will stop protests if govt spares him from jail'
(plus return his 76 billion and revert back to the easily manipulated '97 charter;) Basically it aint over until a square-faced Frank gets to sing "Myyyyy Wayyyyy"..... (and then it begins again) zzzZzzzzzz.... Edited by baht&sold, 2009-12-24 13:01:43. #59
alexanderthai
Advanced Member Posted 2009-12-24 12:52:54
Now, everyone understands what is Jatuporn doing for living.....as a Joker.....
#60
Chris Lawrence
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 12:54:19
Bangkok should be a separate state or country? A lot of People in the north of the country don't have these sentiments.
When Bangkok grows up they may have a chance....until then the deck chairs will be arranged for the next sinking of the leader. Who will be at fault then? This is just my observation of what has happened. Look what has happened after GW had a go.......where are they now. 
#61
Jirapa
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 12:54:20
Someone should 'take out' Jatuporn. No really, in Thaksin's day a guy like this would have had multiple multi-million baht law suits slapped on him for libel, and would have pipped down by now. Yeah, let the whole thing go to court, when he's failed to convince us all that 'get rid of' (probably the word 'ting' in Thai) does not mean kill someone, he should be fined for contempt of court and parliament, perhaps stripped of his MP status, better still banished to Dubai, and have his tongue cut out for good measure. This twat is everything Thailand doesn't want to be in the future, he's the archetypical dodgy, mouthy, unintelligent, deceptive politician we're trying to discourage. He serves to be a songteaw driver, no more. Well said. I perfectly agree! The opposition is continously sitting on the fence and doing nothing other than blaming the government and making troubles. They want to change back to the old constitution, forgetting that the one in use was voted for by a majority of the people. This guy is so blatantly stupid. Mitt....you might want to do a little research on this before you make comments. 1) The military tore up the 1997 "People's Constitution" and wrote a new one, which completely absolved them from their criminal acts. 2) They gave the people of Thailand 2 choices: 1) Vote for this one; 2) remain under martial law. 3) At the time of the vote, SIXTY PERCENT (60%) of the country WAS under martial law and not allowed to vote, which left only FORTY PERCENT (40%) of voters eligible, and even then it was passed by the BAREST of margins. So, this constitution, aside from being illegal to begin with, was NOT voted on by the "majority", but by a minority, and even then it almost didn't make it. Just1Voice, I suggest you follow your own advice and do some research before posing misleading statement presented as facts. There was no suspension of the right to vote in areas under martial law. In fact 57% of the eligible electorate of 46.3 million turned out for the ballot which would have been difficult is 60% of the country was not allowed to vote. The constitution was approved by 14.7 million voters and disapproved by 10.7 million, i.e. the margin was 11.7% of votes cast. Some may have been disappointed in the margin but your superlative language might lead other ignorant people to believe that it was perhaps less than 1%. The referendum was a simple yes or no vote. There was no explicit alternative presented, such as remaining under martial law as you suggest. There is enough nonsense in TV posted by "shoot from the hip" posters with little or no knowledge of Thailand. Please don't add to the clutter. My wife owns a small restaurant and the campaigners were out the otherday for local elections and came by the restaurant. She got 1000B handed to her in tips from the first campaigner, obviously as a vote incentive although that wasn't mentioned as that would be bribery. She got 1000B in tips from the next campaigner who passed by half an hour later. And finally a bottle of Red Label from the 3rd. Good thing is she recieved a bribe from each leaving her free to cast her single vote for the one she wanted without feeling guilty. Who says Thai politics aren't fair! Believe it or not that's a true story as I was there and spent some of the electoral proceeds on Archa and cigarettes as I don't drink whiskey. Anyone who thinks elections in Thailand are fair and transparent is dreaming! Maybe the majority of news agencies worldwide are all wrong for slating the credability of the latest Thai election and military coups but I doubt it as the likes of AFP, Reuters, the BBC, etc... aren't controlled and censored by the military. These foreign news agencies are far more knowledgable of what's going on in Thailand than yourself and the vast majority of Thai citizens as they gather their information from numerous sources from right accross the political spectrum. We're talking from rice farmers in the north, muslim fishermen in the deep south, business people in Bangkok to drug dealers and prostitutes and all the way up to the politicians and top military brass. I think they know their stuff and report how it is and not the censored version you get from the Thai media. I know who I trust for a more balanced view on Thai and world affairs as I've worked with Reuters, AFP, BBC World, and numerous newspapers and news magazine publications in 5 different countries for 23 years. There are plenty of Newspaper Editors and Editors in Chief especially accross western europe with the balls to rock the political boat. That sadly is laking here! I have some very high ranking friends in the Thai military and one whos a retired General from the Kings Guard so I have a pretty good insight as to what's going on here. "There is enough nonsense in TV posted by "shoot from the hip" posters with little or no knowledge of Thailand." That's a fair statement! Edited by Jirapa, 2009-12-24 12:56:37. #62
BangkokJazz
Advanced Member Posted 2009-12-24 12:56:35
3) At the time of the vote, SIXTY PERCENT (60%) of the country WAS under martial law and not allowed to vote, which left only FORTY PERCENT (40%) of voters eligible, and even then it was passed by the BAREST of margins. What on earth are you talking about? First of all, the nation was NOT under martial law in any general sense at the time of the election. And even if they would have declared it, which they did not, people would still be allowed to vote! Who feeds you this nonsense? Does it really matter? Everything in the process of this constitution was full of irregularities, from the selection of the drafting committee to the referendum itself. Everybody were allowed to vote, but criticizing the draft was made a criminal act, so no public debate was possible. If people voted no, the junta would just pass any constitution of their liking instead. This referendum was no more democratic than the elections held in the Soviet Union. Nonsense. There was plenty of criticism and discussion openly about it. Stop rewriting history. #63
BangkokJazz
Advanced Member Posted 2009-12-24 12:58:44
Frankly, vote buying doesn't bother me all that much. It happens all over the world. In the US, congressmen hold bills hostage to get lots of "pork"projects for their constituents, at taxpayer expense. At least here, the constituents get to eat a good meal out of it, or take grandma for a nice afternoon out.
#64
Robbie Dye
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 13:17:31
After the forum now is going to solve the major political issues of a country that is not THEIRS: Are there plans for making T'land a colony, and if yes: under custody of which nation? Will this not impose international conflicts, if - say - Ghana takes over: This would lead to border conflicts with Cambodia transfered to other continents. (not sure on which side of the borders in question) Would it not be better to stage another oil or terrorism crisis and let those take charge (or just - charge) who have most experience with such operations? Merry Christmas, everyone  #65
Brewsta
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 13:18:17
Someone should 'take out' Jatuporn. No really, in Thaksin's day a guy like this would have had multiple multi-million baht law suits slapped on him for libel, and would have pipped down by now. Yeah, let the whole thing go to court, when he's failed to convince us all that 'get rid of' (probably the word 'ting' in Thai) does not mean kill someone, he should be fined for contempt of court and parliament, perhaps stripped of his MP status, better still banished to Dubai, and have his tongue cut out for good measure. This twat is everything Thailand doesn't want to be in the future, he's the archetypical dodgy, mouthy, unintelligent, deceptive politician we're trying to discourage. He serves to be a songteaw driver, no more. Hey, I know some good Songteaw drivers, she takes my son to & fro to school every day, but I wouldn't trust that guy  "She-Guy" - interesting occupation(s)? TIT. Brewsta Edited by Brewsta, 2009-12-24 13:20:10. #66
Jirapa
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 13:27:26
Thaksin should have been tackled a long time ago. Either in prison or a more "permanent" solution. To those crying about "democracy" etc above look at the history of your own countries. People are removed forcefully, even by democratic governments. Errrmmmmm???? When was the last time that happened in the UK? An unpopular PM might be asked to resign by his own party due to a dwindling popularity score, to which he might agree and save the party, but I can't remember any tanks rolling into Downing street in my life time nor that of my forefathers. Correct me if I'm wrong? Margret Thatcher was forced to resign by the Tories due to a million man anti Poll Tax march to Trafalger Square. That resulted in an urban war between the police and protesters and the police admited defeat. For being the instigator of such massive and uncontrollable civil unrest she had to go and hand over her thrown to her second in command John Major. Again no tanks just police on horses who were fighting to protect the government not over throw it. The European Union does not stand for military coups by it's member states. They'd be isolated and struck off which is a big price to pay so it doesn't happen! #67
Jirapa
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 13:42:27
Frankly, vote buying doesn't bother me all that much. It happens all over the world. In the US, congressmen hold bills hostage to get lots of "pork"projects for their constituents, at taxpayer expense. At least here, the constituents get to eat a good meal out of it, or take grandma for a nice afternoon out. Doesn't bother me either. My wife got 2000B and a bottle of red label between the 3 parties standing. Might be better though if the parties actually communicated with one another so they don't try to bribe the same person. 3 bits of paper with farmers, shop owners and bars on them, put them in a hat, give it a shake and whatever you pull out is your bribe market for the day! Repeat again the next day in the next village. Ahh life could be so simple! Edited by Jirapa, 2009-12-24 13:43:24. #68
ballpoint
maim and dis-member Posted 2009-12-24 13:55:08
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Hey, I know some good Songteaw drivers, she takes my son to & fro to school every day, but I wouldn't trust that guy "She-Guy" - interesting occupation(s)? TIT. Brewsta Captain Common Sense to the rescue... The songtaew driver is a female (she), Jatuporn is a male (guy). The poster trusts the songtaew driver, but he doesn't trust Jatuporn. Next. #69
Acharn
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 13:57:42
The real problem is that a lot of Thais do take this creep Jatuporn serious, and actually look up to scum like this! I don't have any strong opinion about whether Jatuporn is or is not a "creep"  , but did you ever take a look at the deranged over-aged hippy wannabe's on the PAD stage during the four months or so they were illegally occupying Government House? There was one guy especially, bald on top with shoulder-length hair on the sides and a horrible scraggly beard, that used to really give me a feeling of nausea. 
#70
Jingthing
Member Schmember Posted 2009-12-24 13:58:15 Quote Thai Government Alleged Plan To Kill Thaksin, Reds: They were on track to kill him #71
Garry
Ducati Acolyte Posted 2009-12-24 14:05:59
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Hey, I know some good Songteaw drivers, she takes my son to & fro to school every day, but I wouldn't trust that guy "She-Guy" - interesting occupation(s)? TIT. Brewsta Captain Common Sense to the rescue... The songtaew driver is a female (she), Jatuporn is a male (guy). The poster trusts the songtaew driver, but he doesn't trust Jatuporn. Next. Thanks for the common sense BP, I didn't realise there was so many rocket scientists (eg: Brewsta) on the forum. I kind of thought it was fairly obvious what I meant as well
#72
ballpoint
maim and dis-member Posted 2009-12-24 14:10:20
The real problem is that a lot of Thais do take this creep Jatuporn serious, and actually look up to scum like this! I don't have any strong opinion about whether Jatuporn is or is not a "creep" , but did you ever take a look at the deranged over-aged hippy wannabe's on the PAD stage during the four months or so they were illegally occupying Government House? There was one guy especially, bald on top with shoulder-length hair on the sides and a horrible scraggly beard, that used to really give me a feeling of nausea. He was the red shirt liaison officer, there to record the proceedings for Cambodia. I'm sure he left the stage at least once over the 4 months. Honestly, what's this got to do with the current thread, or anything at all for that matter? Today I saw a fat, long haired, straggley bearded man holding children. I was nauseated, especially given the whiteness of his hair, his bright red suit and his constant "ho ho ho-ing". You don't have any strong opinion, but none the less you'll make a post about it. Jatuporn is a creep by his actions, not just his looks. #73
Brewsta
Senior Member Posted 2009-12-24 14:14:26
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Hey, I know some good Songteaw drivers, she takes my son to & fro to school every day, but I wouldn't trust that guy "She-Guy" - interesting occupation(s)? TIT. Brewsta Captain Common Sense to the rescue... The songtaew driver is a female (she), Jatuporn is a male (guy). The poster trusts the songtaew driver, but he doesn't trust Jatuporn. Next. Thanks for the common sense BP, I didn't realise there was so many rocket scientists (eg: Brewsta) on the forum. I kind of thought it was fairly obvious what I meant as well Oooops......sense of humour failure, folks?...... Anyways, Nappy Hoel to you and back to Canaveral for me, I guess  contritely, Brewsta
#74
pammy123
Advanced Member Posted 2009-12-24 14:21:52
"The term "get rid of" is a codeword for killing," As my Skool teacher once told me... "Could do better"  I think your schoolteacher had a point #75
Garry
Ducati Acolyte Posted 2009-12-24 14:30:36
Oooops......sense of humour failure, folks?...... Anyways, Nappy Hoel to you and back to Canaveral for me, I guess contritely, Brewsta All is forgiven Brewsta, but next time use a smiley eg:  so that you automatically don't get tarred & feathered
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