Because one does not presently see the illness in Thailand does not mean that it is not a threat. The virus is in sync with the monsoon season, not with the moods of the beer swillers at Miss Pookies Pattaya Beer & Bosom Bonanza.
Ever notice that when someone cannot substantiate a statement, he or she will present it as a "fact", as if that relieves the person from backing up the statement. Wild allegations and claims are not facts.
asiawatcher, on 2010-01-21 17:14:21, said:
It is already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt this is all about Big Pharma collecting a pay day. Media hype, keep the money rolling in from stupid Govt's who wish to appear to be helping the populace in general. Ask Donal Rumsfeld and look into his connections for the USD50BN in their plan. The 30 doctors should be disbarred as accessories to conspiracy. Idiots all.
One of the problems with rumours and lies if they are repeated enough times, gullible ignorant people believe them. In most western countries, the (A) H1N1/09 flu vaccine was manufactured under a quasi nationalization program. The set amounts paid for the vaccine were negotiated long before this year and the rates and costs were open to public review and debate. The complaints being made at the time of the initial cost negotiations were that the governments were forcing the vaccine manufacturers to operate at a loss. Final cost adjustments per dose are negotiated as per the agreements in place once the go order was given.
Most western governments following the SARS crisis revised their vaccination plans to allow for the national governments to have the right to expropriate the right to manufacture without going through the messy and expensive business of expropriation.
What conspiracy nuts conveniently neglect to mention is that there is limited capacity to manufacture vaccines. This means that the regular flu vaccines and other seasonal vaccine manufacturing is halted and had to be restarted once production lines are changed over and disinfection and contamination protocols executed. I don't know about the EU, but in North America and Australia, the vaccine manufacturers didn't push for this vaccine effort and in fact resisted. The timelines were too thin and left them open to serious problems. It was a major logistical nightmare and had the potential to rip into the profit margin. Instead of bashing these companies, they should be praised, particularly the workers that put in the long hours to deliver the results.
It is idiotic to call something a hoax or conspiracy without reviewing the actual results. Citing FoxNews doesn't qualify as a credible source. One cannot assess the situation until all the data is submitted and reviewed. There are not hundreds of millions of unused flu vaccine out there. Has it dawned on some of the geniuses that maybe the reason the number of infections did not skyrocket is attributable to the fact that enough of the population was vaccinated to prevent the spread of the illness? If one looks at the results in Canada and the USA, it appears that the program achieved the desired results. Canada recorded close to 50% vaccination rates with almost no serious ADRs. It is interesting to note that within 60 days of the vaccination program being launched in Canada & the USA the cases reported started falling. DO NOT CONFUSE THE SUCCESS OF THE VACCINE PROGRAM WITH THERE NOT HAVING BEEN A SIGNIFICANT RISK.
globin, on 2010-01-21 17:09:59, said:
quote.......The great swine flu hoax of 2009 is now falling apart at the seams as one country after another unloads hundreds of millions of doses of unused swine flu vaccines. No informed person wants the injection anymore, and the entire fear-based campaign to promote the vaccines has now been exposed as outright quackery and propaganda.
Even doctors are now calling the pandemic a complete hoax. As reported on FoxNews, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, a leading health authority in Europe, says that drug companies "organized a 'campaign of panic' to put pressure on the World Health Organization (WHO) to declare a pandemic. He believes it is 'one of the greatest medicine scandals of the century,' and he has called for an inquiry." .....end quote mike adams
To the fellow that wrote the above, please take some time to check the facts and please do not spread nonsense. There was a real and imminent danger as people were dying in droves last year. You have forgotten that there was massive pressure on governments to respond. There was real panic in the general population at the time. Schools were closed and the threat of a serious economic disruption was evident.Hospital ERs were overcrowded with people thinking they had the flu. Those that were indeed sick were monopolizing hospital respirators. There was a month last year when hospitals in the USA and Canada were reporting that all respirators were in use. The net result was that people in need of urgent care for other illnesses could not be cared for and were at serious risk . Had the governments not acted as they did and this disease spread, you would now be saying it was a conspiracy to cull the population.Almost 1/2 of all fatalities have been in the Americas. Because you did not see these dead people, does not mean that there wasn't a risk to the world population.
It must be very unfomfortable for alot of people to accept that big business performed, that government performed and that the social agencies and health services performed and that they all have done a good job on the whole.
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