maerim, on 2005-05-03 16:27:37, said:
When I am in the UK I find the only good thing I can say about snow is that it makes my garden look as good all the other ones.
Thanks for the tips; more to write down and put somewhere I won't lose it.
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Gardening In ThailandIs there much availability of plants?
Started by Blake7, 2004-10-31 16:23
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Advanced Member Posted 2005-05-04 07:08:20
No kidding; I loved snow when I lived in California, and then I moved to Colorado. With every passing year I have less and less tolerance for the cold, even here in coastal Washington where it's fairly mild. I do have nice plants here though. Thanks for the tips; more to write down and put somewhere I won't lose it. #27
Not a PC Member Posted 2005-05-04 07:34:18
Here's a few
Garden Center Co,Ltd 933 On- nuch Rd. Saunluang Bangkok Tel : (66) 0-2333-1125-8 Fax  66 ) 0-2333-1124 Thailand http://www.gardencenter.co.th THAISING TROPICAL PLANTS NURSERY CO., LTD 62/63 Soi Amornphan 4 (Viphavadee Rangsit 42) Ladyao, Chatuchak, Bangkok 10900, THAILAND Tel.: (+66-2) 279-5290, 618-4887; Fax: (+66-2) 941-3840 http://www.thaising.co.th/ Seeds, sprouts & bulbs http://yellowpages.c...n/eh190200.html A dodgey search engine, but good luck. 
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Star Member Posted 2005-05-04 08:53:39 udon, on 2005-05-04 06:31:19, said:
Packets of seeds are now starting to be found in the gardening sections of the big department stores, and bio sprays are plentiful... your knowledge of Thai is a must though, unless you bring your long-haired dictionary along to interpret for you.  One thing I have not seen is snail bait/pellets... it annoys the h3ll out of me when I buy a few new plants, place them somewhere out in the garden, only to have hungry hordes of hoys descend on them after watering at night as if it was a free buffet at the local pub. I'd love to find some snail bait...  I have not seen any good potting compost for sale anywhere at all... most of the gardening centres (and there are heaps of them around Sri Ratcha, Pattaya, Jomtien, & Rayong) all make their own... it may be possible to buy some off them, but to be honest I haven't tried yet. 
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Advanced Member Posted 2005-05-04 09:00:37 Jai Dee, on 2005-05-03 18:53:39, said: One thing I have not seen is snail bait/pellets... it annoys the h3ll out of me when I buy a few new plants, place them somewhere out in the garden, only to have hungry hordes of hoys descend on them after watering at night as if it was a free buffet at the local pub. I'd love to find some snail bait... #30
Not a PC Member Posted 2005-05-04 09:10:19
Jai Dee,
If you know a common brand in Aus, I might be able to send some over to you Monday with a friend. Kmart and Woolies are close by. "DEFENDER" snail pellets are here in my shed..... any good?
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Star Member Posted 2005-05-04 09:25:06 udon, on 2005-05-04 09:10:19, said: Jai Dee, If you know a common brand in Aus, I might be able to send some over to you Monday with a friend. Kmart and Woolies are close by. "DEFENDER" snail pellets are here in my shed..... any good? I used to use "Defender" a lot, and it's a good product. I'll PM you with my details. Cheers udon.  And stevemarkwell, what is the "beer trap"? Although the common garden variety of Thai snail is a different shape to the Australian common snail (I don't really know any other countries varieties), their diet preferences appear to be the same. 
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Mistress Whiplash Posted 2005-05-04 11:29:51
Wednesdays at Chatuchak market is strictly plant sellers.
Wish I had a big truck to go once or twice .Outside of Bangkok (southern part) is a huge area full of nurseries. From big trees to water plants (again, big truck dream strikes here). In the provinces mostly you have to look for plant sellers by the side of the road, we have bought bags of potted compost from these places, but you need to check the contents first. Some aren't fully composted. #33
Missing Member Posted 2005-05-04 11:30:04
When a friend of mine visited from UK his wife was going ape-sh1t in my garden.
She works in the horticultural dept. at Newcastle Council and was dancing round the garden pointing at the "flowers" and telling me their latin names and how much they would cost in UK. The prices were amazing, and I thought they were just weeds. If you are an avid gardener I think you will enjoy it here #34
Titanium Member Posted 2005-05-04 11:39:21 udon, on 2005-05-04 06:31:19, said: Potting compost, loads around. Seeds in packets sold in many places Bio sprays abound, too, but all in Thai language, in my experience #35
Super Member Posted 2005-05-04 11:39:30 Jai Dee, on 2005-05-04 05:53:39, said: udon, on 2005-05-04 06:31:19, said: One thing I have not seen is snail bait/pellets... it annoys the h3ll out of me when I buy a few new plants, place them somewhere out in the garden, only to have hungry hordes of hoys descend on them after watering at night as if it was a free buffet at the local pub. I'd love to find some snail bait... Try this link to get rid of the snails without poisoning anything / anybody else. http://www.ehow.com/...ails-slugs.html #36
Star Member Posted 2005-05-04 11:43:03 sbk, on 2005-05-04 11:29:51, said: Wednesdays at Chatuchak market is strictly plant sellers. Wish I had a big truck to go once or twice .What time do they generally open? If I visit JJ it's usually as early as possible to beat the heat. And thanks for that link johnh101... I'll have a look.
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Advanced Member Posted 2005-05-04 12:22:00 Jai Dee, on 2005-05-03 19:25:06, said: And stevemarkwell, what is the "beer trap"? Although the common garden variety of Thai snail is a different shape to the Australian common snail (I don't really know any other countries varieties), their diet preferences appear to be the same. There are also carnivorous snails that eat the snails that eat your plants. In the States i use them quite a bit, but I don't know where they're from, and I don't know if they would naturalize in Thailand and cause problems, as has happened with carnivorous snails in Hawaii. They are called 'decollate snails', and the eat small snails, slugs, and decomposing organic matter. Edited by stevemarkwell, 2005-05-04 12:24:43. #38
Senior Member Posted 2005-05-04 13:04:07
Jatujak should be ok for ordinary plants in terms of price and choice. Otherwise head up for Rangsit, which is where I buy most of the stuff.
I work in Bangkok as a landscape designer, and it is not rare that a client asks us to renovate the garden area before renting/selling the property. I have no idea of how this works in properties to be sold, but I can tell you it works wonders in property for rent. Bull #39
Senior Member Posted 2005-05-04 14:08:23
In Koh Samui See Ms Ta 's Good Stuff ad.
She sells all kinds of exotic edible plants from tropical america. prakang@hotmail.com 09-594-9432 #40
Senior Member Posted 2005-05-04 14:22:31
I have just finished setting up my own garden having recently moved into a new house. I have seen plenty of good plants bushes and trees on offer at Chatuchak market, it's a good place to start, however, transport too and from it, is IMHO, a bit of a pain. Parking can be very difficult and I would not wish to negotiate the sky train or underground with a bundle of plants.
I personally recommend a trip to Thewet market. Its not far from the Government Area, so quite accessible. It is along the side of Krung Kasem Rd, heading towards Thewet Pier. To get there follow Rama 1 Rd out of town, past Siam Discovery and over the canal at China Town but keep going straight. From there, turn right into Krung Kasem Rd and just follow for about 2 km where the market appears on the right hand side of the rd. It has a good variery of bedding type plants, ferns, fan type plants, flowering and non-flowering bushes, some lotus and of course orchids! This place is real eye candy and whilst the total area is only about 300 mtrs long it can be very difficult to drag yourself away from. I hope this helps. Good Luck. #41
Titanium Member Posted 2005-05-04 15:43:39 stevemarkwell, on 2005-05-04 12:22:00, said: There are also carnivorous snails that eat the snails that eat your plants. In the States i use them quite a bit, but I don't know where they're from, and I don't know if they would naturalize in Thailand and cause problems, as has happened with carnivorous snails in Hawaii......." Please, please don't bring any snails into Thailand from anyplace else!!!!! For those who want really good potting soil you can put a pile of cow or kwai manure in a distant corner of your estate where the rain does not fall on it but where you can keep it moist for several months. After several months it will look like dirt and will not smell like manure. It will have a rich earthy smell and you can mix this 1/3 with 1/3 sharp sand and 1/3 garden soil. If this is too rich (too much nitrogen) then you can make another pile using the manure but mix by volume one volume of manure with 5 volumes of leaves or straw. Let this sit for a few months just like the manure above but stir it once a month or whenever you think of it. It will take a bit longer than the manure but when mixed in 1/3 with the sand and soil will give good potting soil too. When I lived in Nong Khai I lived on the edge of town and had a small garden. I didn't have a source for manure so I started cruising the roads near me carrying a bucket and a hand shovel. People who saw me would shout "tham arai?" I would answer "phai ow khee kwai!" with a big smile.....they always got a chuckle out of that and one day one of them stopped by my house and deposited a nice size pile of the substance in a convenient spot for me to use!! Once you get used to making this it is easy to keep enough on hand to supply you for the coming year......its just a pile of stuff kept over there somewhere! #42
Not a PC Member Posted 2005-05-04 16:03:26
Some very helpful posts here, thanks.
Years ago at the Kaset Uni open day (feb) a few peeps were selling neem plants and neem insecticide. Thai orchard owners swear by it as a natural bug killer and preventative. google Neem..
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Super Member Posted 2005-05-04 16:06:00 sbk, on 2005-05-04 11:29:51, said: Wednesdays at Chatuchak market is strictly plant sellers. Not only Wednesdays but Thursdays too, I believe. Also a big a big fruit market in Rangsit called Tarat Thai. There's a big plant market there that's open everyday. #44
Titanium Member Posted 2005-05-04 16:16:21 chownah, on 2005-05-04 15:43:39, said: For those who want really good potting soil you can put a pile of cow or kwai manure in a distant corner of your estate where the rain does not fall on it but where you can keep it moist for several months. After several months it will look like dirt and will not smell like manure. It will have a rich earthy smell and you can mix this 1/3 with 1/3 sharp sand and 1/3 garden soil. If this is too rich (too much nitrogen) then you can make another pile using the manure but mix by volume one volume of manure with 5 volumes of leaves or straw. Let this sit for a few months just like the manure above but stir it once a month or whenever you think of it. It will take a bit longer than the manure but when mixed in 1/3 with the sand and soil will give good potting soil too. When I lived in Nong Khai I lived on the edge of town and had a small garden. I didn't have a source for manure so I started cruising the roads near me carrying a bucket and a hand shovel. People who saw me would shout "tham arai?" I would answer "phai ow khee kwai!" with a big smile.....they always got a chuckle out of that and one day one of them stopped by my house and deposited a nice size pile of the substance in a convenient spot for me to use!! Once you get used to making this it is easy to keep enough on hand to supply you for the coming year......its just a pile of stuff kept over there somewhere! http://www.mastercom...e/bldapile.html #45
Not a PC Member Posted 2005-05-04 16:21:37
What do you peeps use for Mulch.?
I've seen waste sugarcane put to good use. What else is out there in LoS?
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Star Member Posted 2005-05-04 16:32:06 udon, on 2005-05-04 16:21:37, said: What do you peeps use for Mulch.? I've seen waste sugarcane put to good use. What else is out there in LoS? The birds like to scratch around in it, and it never really dries out... keeps the weeds down. I do have an electric mulcher in storage back in Oz... when I finally decide to ship my stuff over I'll look forward to using that little baby to mulch everything in sight! Plants grow rapidly here... for example, a frangipani tree that a mate planted 2 years ago was about 1 metre tall and the trunk 25mm wide at time of planting... he cut it down last week... 6 metres tall and the main trunk was about 200mm in diameter!  You have to keep pruning regularly to keep your garden under control.
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Platinum Member Posted 2005-05-04 18:31:44 udon, on 2005-05-03 22:14:33, said: Bring plenty of seed packets with you from home. Just about anything will grow in LoS's humidity. Interested in this aspect - anyone aware of any restrictions on what seeds are OK? Just been looking through the Customs website and there's no mention - not even of rooted plants, bulbs, tubers etc.......... #48
Senior Member Posted 2005-05-04 18:39:37 Steve2UK, on 2005-05-04 18:31:44, said: udon, on 2005-05-03 22:14:33, said:
Bring plenty of seed packets with you from home. Just about anything will grow in LoS's humidity. Interested in this aspect - anyone aware of any restrictions on what seeds are OK? Just been looking through the Customs website and there's no mention - not even of rooted plants, bulbs, tubers etc.......... Steve, see this thread too. http://www.thaivisa....showtopic=31727 Baht #49
Titanium Member Posted 2005-05-04 19:38:38
Jai Dee, Tell me about this frangipani tree. Is it where frangipani incense comes from? Do the flowers smell really good, like the incense. What's the Thai name for it. If you can figure out how to write the actual Thai letters for it please do.
Udon, For mulch I use rice straw and/or rice hulls. When I plant pak ghat or pak salad (lettuce) or carrots or other small vegetables I immediately cover the seed bed with about one or two centimeters of rice hulls. Don't confuse rice hulls which are kind of like sawdust in texture with rice polish which is a powder and is best used as an animal feed. Anyway the rice hulls perform five functions: 1. Keep the water from evaporating so fast, 2. Keeps the soil surface soft and minimizes or eliminates the surface crust which forms on soil when it rains, 3. Inhibits weed growth, and 4. Improves the soil texture when dug in after the crop is harvested, and 5. Enriches the soil. Rice hulls are available at rice mills....the places where paddy rice is polished and made edible. The rice straw is available in large quantities if you live near rice fields and I spread it out thickly on areas where I want to kill all the weeds or to stop new weeds from emerging...works great. I have brought back alot of seeds with me from overseas and have had mixed luck with them. For many of them the local varieties do alot better for me but I think its great to bring your own seeds and see what you can do!! I told an environmentalist friend of mine (we're talking radical environmentalist here) that I was going to bring some giant watermelon seeds to Thailand and she got really concerned that this would cause a problem if they went wild.....what a night mare I told her. Giant watermelons growing everywhere like weeds.....noone can eat them all....soon they'll be creaping into your bed.....You know, even radical environmentalists laugh once in a while! Cheers, Chownah #50
Platinum Member Posted 2005-05-04 20:54:40 Baht Simpson, on 2005-05-04 12:39:37, said: Steve2UK, on 2005-05-04 18:31:44, said: udon, on 2005-05-03 22:14:33, said:
Bring plenty of seed packets with you from home. Just about anything will grow in LoS's humidity. Interested in this aspect - anyone aware of any restrictions on what seeds are OK? Just been looking through the Customs website and there's no mention - not even of rooted plants, bulbs, tubers etc.......... Steve, see this thread too. http://www.thaivisa....showtopic=31727 Baht Thanks, Baht - very much appreciated
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