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Posted 2010-02-12 10:21:37
 torrenova, on 2010-02-09 11:14:00, said:
Has anyone ever worked out just how much of his fortune was gained from corruption and whether he did actually make a couple of million reasonably fairly ?
Can't see this ending well whichever way it goes.
Well according to what I was told YEARS ago by people working here for my ex-employer they should likely have gone back 24 years as at that time they were already doing some shady things with computers...
So if you want to be sure you have to check whatever he got since working for the police...whatever for us farangs its likely better not to get involved....
Posted 2010-02-12 13:09:27
tracer, on 2010-02-12 10:21:37, said: torrenova, on 2010-02-09 11:14:00, said: Has anyone ever worked out just how much of his fortune was gained from corruption and whether he did actually make a couple of million reasonably fairly ?
Can't see this ending well whichever way it goes.
Well according to what I was told YEARS ago by people working here for my ex-employer they should likely have gone back 24 years as at that time they were already doing some shady things with computers...
So if you want to be sure you have to check whatever he got since working for the police...whatever for us farangs its likely better not to get involved....
If you read the Pasuk/ Baker bio of Thaksin you will get a flavour for how he became so rich so fast before entering politics but putting him on trial for that phase would probably involve also prosecuting many from the TOT and other government agencies who are still alive and politicians who are still active today. The main frame business, referred to above, which was his first successful business venture after failing at several others, was interesting too. As a junior police officer Thaksin was responsible for setting up a tender offer to supply the police with IT equipment. Having set the specs for the tender, he proceded to bid for it himself and won. While in the police he also acted as a bagman for his father and uncle when they were in politics, distributing brown envelopes to MPs to buy votes in the House, according to Baker/ Pasuk. Need to hear more?
Edited by Arkady, 2010-02-12 13:13:12.
Posted 2010-02-12 13:17:33
Hmmmmm.... I remember paying for a Dancall "block" 475MHz "mobile phone - it weighed about 2.5 kgs. Purchased in 1991, the price was equivalent to US $3,120.00. Yes, I really needed it (for those freelance offshore workers - you know what I'm talkin' about...). Sold it 2 years later for US $800......
Posted 2010-02-12 13:21:34
Arkady, on 2010-02-12 13:09:27, said: tracer, on 2010-02-12 10:21:37, said: torrenova, on 2010-02-09 11:14:00, said: Has anyone ever worked out just how much of his fortune was gained from corruption and whether he did actually make a couple of million reasonably fairly ?
Can't see this ending well whichever way it goes.
Well according to what I was told YEARS ago by people working here for my ex-employer they should likely have gone back 24 years as at that time they were already doing some shady things with computers...
So if you want to be sure you have to check whatever he got since working for the police...whatever for us farangs its likely better not to get involved....
If you read the Pasuk/ Baker bio of Thaksin you will get a flavour for how he became so rich so fast before entering politics but putting him on trial for that phase would probably involve also prosecuting many from the TOT and other government agencies who are still alive and politicians who are still active today. The main frame business, referred to above, which was his first successful business venture after failing at several others, was interesting too. As a junior police officer Thaksin was responsible for setting up a tender offer to supply the police with IT equipment. Having set the specs for the tender, he proceded to bid for it himself and won. While in the police he also acted as a bagman for his father and uncle when they were in politics, distributing brown envelopes to MPs to buy votes in the House, according to Baker/ Pasuk. Need to hear more?
Certainly not, I feel sick already and very sorry for the people who believe/d in this man!
But another time proof of a popular slightly shortened proverb from Honore Balzac..."behind every great fortunes stays a big crime"!
Quote "Le secret des grandes fortunes sans cause apparente est un crime
oublié, parce qu' il a été proprement fait."
English translation:
"The secret of a great success for which you are at a loss to account
is a crime that has never been found out, because it was properly
executed."
..... 
...no further comment!
Posted 2010-02-12 23:01:39
brahmburgers, on 2010-02-10 07:25:33, said: Many of the Thais I have spoken with used to be T supporters, but if the subject is broached now, they smile embarrassingly and try to change the subject. Then there are those, like myself (tho am not a Thai) who, from the moment I first heard about Thaksin and his political promises, knew he was crooked to the core.
I know a few Thais who were charter TRT members, even three who served in his administration. Every one of them quit the party by the end of his first term. The friend who stuck it out the longest learned pretty much all there was to learn about his financial dealings, and eventually served on the defence team that lost the court decision regarding Pojaman's land transactiopn. By the time he was finished with Col T, he was convinced the man was a megalomaniac with zero ethics.
The countrywide support for the man has waned considerably, but most especially among those who actually worked or dealt with the man, or so it seems. Just as Hitler still had a mass of adherents right up to his corporeal demise.
Posted 2010-02-21 10:27:37
No, it is noty, it actually makes a lot of sense !
Posted 2010-02-21 11:17:08
The likelihood he came to be so fast, unusually wealthy as he was,
and to enter politics at the level he did and so swiftly take control,
is highly indicative of ihis assets, all or mostly, being acquired by
highly questionable means. There is enough history to show that.
And then his USE of that money/power was certainly questionable
in most cases publicly known at this time. The coup was not choice #1
to rid the country of his scourge, but something needed to be done,
and the job needs to be finished, as shown by how he has manipulated
the Red Shirts into violence.
Judgment Day is quite an appropriate phrase.
Posted 2010-02-21 11:35:24
animatic, on 2010-02-21 11:17:08, said: The likelihood he came to be so fast, unusually wealthy as he was,
and to enter politics at the level he did and so swiftly take control,
is highly indicative of ihis assets, all or mostly, being acquired by
highly questionable means. There is enough history to show that.
And then his USE of that money/power was certainly questionable
in most cases publicly known at this time. The coup was not choice #1
to rid the country of his scourge, but something needed to be done,
and the job needs to be finished, as shown by how he has manipulated
the Red Shirts into violence.
Judgment Day is quite an appropriate phrase.
And it looks if he would only have the means, the manpower, the ones willing to go for him,
(Seah Daeng seems to be one, but obviousely not power hungry enough)
he would (let) go the "whole nine yards" for sure, all the way!
He lost it it... for some time, best of the worst examples for someone getting lost in power hunger and greed!
Posted 2010-02-25 21:23:01
I figure this is just a propaganda to please the current government's supporters. I thought Taksin's money are all exported oversea via various channels which I can't even imagine his methods.
I wouldn't be surprised at the end Taksin will be just as wealthy as he was. Meaning the current gov't has no way to get to him as much as it wants.
Chin
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