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[Tanaka]

dysl, on 2010-03-02 06:09:23, said:

i plan go to Thailand with my wife(thai) for vacation on August, but i need to change my plan now. Why? a happy and peaceful paradise become a bloody and violant hel_l!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THAI!  don't destory your beautiful motherland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Might be too late. TS is still not in custody.

[golferchin76]

sawadeeken, on 2010-03-02 11:26:32, said:

Exactly, extremists in the south are using the present situation to try to confuse the authorities........... Might work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These days, I feel it is better to be cynical, and see all the news regarding yellow/red violences as entertainment.

I have questions to all these little attacks/group gatherings here and there and the need of 'security' increase as a result.

I as the normal day to day people am confused.... In intelligence work, one can work in wonderful ways to confuse the public, and to achieve his/her/their ultimate goal(s).

When I see those red shirts gather in groups. I wonder if they are real red, or hired red by whoever's behind the scene.  And the motorcycle grenade lobbing right after the court's decision over T's assets-freeze is questionable to me as who's behind the attack, and its purpose.

Can I say that the real motives of those behind the scene are to taint the opposition, or to infuse fear into the public, and therefore to tighten security control using 'military' or 'police' force? And I think that means arms/personnels budget increase, money flowing here there etc, lesser freedom to the public.

In more advanced countries, where their citizens are more educated (more educated isn't the right word here, can't find a better word from my head now, what I mean is that they are not that easy to be fooled), and the use of violence can backfire, we would see less of such foolish acts. (Don't lecture me about Bush's 'infuse-fear' administration though)

Anyways the end result is the citizens or residents lose, while those in the act gain more power in their hands.  Whatever violence acts that have happened here and will in the future, is rooted to power/turf struggle.

Whatever that are happening, I doubt the more intelligent Thais even care, or are too confused/annoyed to even care about.  Elites, middle, labor class or not, nothing is going to change the flow of the thing here, everyone is being played, or involved in the playing process. That's what happens in a pseudo-democratic country, and where armed forces have more power than the people who feed them.

[peacefulwarrior]

Call me a 'nut' but I reaffirm that IMHO these events are ALL staged... not by terrorists but by some arm of the gov. to give people boring talking points, further separation and confuse the nation. It would be a novelty that such things coincide with things that matter and should be the focus like :

- The dissolution of parliament / democratic party because they took 236m Baht from the industry... allowed are 30m
- Thaksin case, where probably the rest of his assets might go to the gov. since there's another 10 criminal lawsuits
- health care (and I don't mean dangerous vaccination crap, that's another scam from the pharma-mafia)
- growing economic concerns and what is going on in the ASEAN region which is going to be like the EU in short

*gosh*

"lo and behold; then I saw the Reichstag burning"

[Paul123456]

woodwork, on 2010-03-02 11:52:28, said:

Scott, on 2010-03-02 11:10:28, said:

Hmm, seems banks are a popular target these days. Wonder how this will get linked to Mr. T?

In respect of your comment, I understand the bombings are related to the outcome of the Taksin case. As serveral Banks are believed to of been sponsors of the Coup in 2006, that threw out Taksin & lead to TRT being disbanded. In my experience with people, we are all one in what ever part of the world we were originally born & Thai
people are No different...Peace.

NO

You guys are getting events very mixed up.
The bombings in this report are in the South - they have nothing to do with Thaksin and the court case - they are to do with the extremist violence that has plagued the South for the past several years - you know the stuff where innocent people are killed every day.
Hmmm, you really shouldn't make comments if you are not at least slightly informed about what is happening in Thailand.

[kuffki]

peacefulwarrior, on 2010-03-02 14:54:22, said:

Call me a 'nut' but I reaffirm that IMHO these events are ALL staged... not by terrorists but by some arm of the gov. to give people boring talking points, further separation and confuse the nation. It would be a novelty that such things coincide with things that matter and should be the focus like :

- The dissolution of parliament / democratic party because they took 236m Baht from the industry... allowed are 30m
- Thaksin case, where probably the rest of his assets might go to the gov. since there's another 10 criminal lawsuits
- health care (and I don't mean dangerous vaccination crap, that's another scam from the pharma-mafia)
- growing economic concerns and what is going on in the ASEAN region which is going to be like the EU in short

*gosh*

"lo and behold; then I saw the Reichstag burning"

So t be safe, i have come with with a safety guide to be safe while in Thailand
Only 4 rules so far, feel free to add more
1. Make sure one article of your clothing is red color, this will ensure your safety if you run into red shirts
2. Make sure that you also have one article of your clothing in yellow, to ensure  your safety if you run into yellow shirts
3. Make sure the third article of your clothing is other color, i suggest green. This will ensure that if you stopped by the police you can either see who he supports and point to the color, or you will be able to show that you are not part of anyone but are in fashion.
4. Do not go topless, as you may be kidnapped and raped by a gang of ladyboys.

Daily outfit should be red top, yellow shorts/pants, green shoes/thongs/flip flops

[gbswales]

MyphuketLife, on 2010-03-02 04:41:24, said:

thaibkk, on 2010-03-02 12:27:57, said:

Thailand really does want no tourists...

first mass protest and riot warnings

now bombings where you could lose your life or a limb just to get your money to spend here...


i guess an informed tourist is not looking thailand to come and spend their hollidays here

If this was a post about "tuk-tuk scams" or "bar girl scams" or some other tourist related post I could see your comment but COME ON.  We are talking about bank bombings and TOURISTS are probably the last thing on the bombers minds.

I dont thnk it matters whether tourists are the target or not - it is the perception that matters.  People around the world are not queing up as if Thailand is the only destination offereing the same sort  of holiday.  Thailand was often the destinaion of coice (a) becaues it was perceived as a peaceful country ( because it has nice beaches and interesting sites © because it has a different culture and identity and (d) because for most western europeans it was a financial bargain

Now it still has the beaches and the interesting sites but is rapidly losing its financial advantage (amid al this chaos how is the Baht so strong?), its culture and idenity (in common with many places) is being subsumed by globalisation and since the original coup tourists are beginning to feel it is no longer peaceful.  They are even now trying to discourage the people who would have braved these issues to visit a place that was, albeit unoficially, free and tolerant of pretty much any lifestyle.

[huma79]

Paul123456, on 2010-03-02 14:01:25, said:

woodwork, on 2010-03-02 11:52:28, said:

Scott, on 2010-03-02 11:10:28, said:

Hmm, seems banks are a popular target these days. Wonder how this will get linked to Mr. T?

In respect of your comment, I understand the bombings are related to the outcome of the Taksin case. As serveral Banks are believed to of been sponsors of the Coup in 2006, that threw out Taksin & lead to TRT being disbanded. In my experience with people, we are all one in what ever part of the world we were originally born & Thai
people are No different...Peace.

NO

You guys are getting events very mixed up.
The bombings in this report are in the South - they have nothing to do with Thaksin and the court case - they are to do with the extremist violence that has plagued the South for the past several years - you know the stuff where innocent people are killed every day.
Hmmm, you really shouldn't make comments if you are not at least slightly informed about what is happening in Thailand.

In their defense - this was sent as a "news update" email to members of TV.. and the email conveniently left out the words "In Narathiwat" which is extremely misleading considering the events of the past week.  Someone in TV needs to take a journalism ethics class.

[franko1]

I visit Yala every year and i dont think this has anything to do with TS, the last few years violence is in every paper daily. Last year it was a little more safe due to more police and army on the streets and alot of roadblocks in the middle of muang Yala. Still there were bombings to hit the schoolteachers of buddhist schools and monks, this because the muslims want to rule that provinces.People dont feel safe there anymore, going into a mall you are going to be searched by securityguards. I feel bad for my family there and for the maire of Yala which me and my wife visit if we are there, what was better last year is destroyed again.
Anyway since not many tourists come to the deep south. Thailand will be safe to travel to. my heart goes out to the families of the people who were killed.

[NanLaew]

neverdie, on 2010-03-02 12:19:27, said:

kuffki, on 2010-03-02 12:16:49, said:

BrianDavidson, on 2010-03-02 13:13:56, said:

thaibkk, on 2010-03-02 11:27:57, said:

Thailand really does want no tourists...

first mass protest and riot warnings

now bombings where you could lose your life or a limb just to get your money to spend here...


i guess an informed tourist is not looking thailand to come and spend their hollidays here

Its ok Thailand does not need tourists . Economy is strong enough as it is , THB just keeps getting stronger

Tell that to the people (ladies) that rely on milking the tourists in pattaya etc that.

WTF? Bombed banks in an already embattled southern province and within 23 posts, we have links to Thaksin and an obscure reference to Pattaya hookers.

The Farang Book of Thai Knowledge isn't very thick is it?

[mythBuster]

Save to assume that this has nothing to do with the grenade attacks in Bangkok. This looks Southern related, different banks too. They opted here for government owned banks, while in Bangkok they went for the Bangkok Bank.

[Carsten007]

"Thailand really does want no tourists.."


Aah, yes, Narathiwat is crowded with Tourists.

Maybe the ATM Computer just blew up and was mistaken for a grenade.

Or one of the many Tourists couldnt take the criminal 150 Baht the extort nowadays.

No? Hmm, maybe Toxin himself was there to recover what they left him?

Still thinking, was it just a non-event?

But to injure a 46 years old street sweeper is sure bravery, why dont we leave this to the Thais, and their "Terrorists"

Still contemplating....

[NanLaew]

Changian, on 2010-03-02 12:27:51, said:

kuffki, on 2010-03-02 11:30:22, said:

Its interesting though that only a selected number of banks are being targeted.
Bank of Ayudhya, Siam Commercial and few others have not been touched at all

SCB is highly unlikely to be bombed as the Crown Property Bureau is the main shareholder.  If you want a safe ATM, use theirs.

Now there's a bit of reverse logic that could get your nuts blown off. The 'elitist royalist' bank is the safest ATM option in these troubled times?

[mythBuster]

Tanaka, on 2010-03-02 13:48:09, said:

dysl, on 2010-03-02 06:09:23, said:

i plan go to Thailand with my wife(thai) for vacation on August, but i need to change my plan now. Why? a happy and peaceful paradise become a bloody and violant hel_l!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THAI!  don't destory your beautiful motherland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Might be too late. TS is still not in custody.

Instead of pointing your finger to a democratically elected person, you should point your finger to the very people that are responsible for this mess. The army. Surayud, Sondhi, Anupong. Be happy that Thaksin is not in custody if you are aligned to to the elite. The elite and the current thais system would not survive a revolution.

[moetownblues]

Is this the red or yellow shirts doing this?

[elcent]

Where the h_ll is SNAFU ... oops Sifu the Swat when you need it the most?

[elcent]

has anybody noticed the remarks of K Suthep?

He said: "There's nothing unusual about it" - these are the words of Deputy Prime Minister in charge of security affairs, Suthep Thaugsuban

In any other nation he'd get a big walking stick for such a comment.

[JackSterling]

I prefer wear a black shirt these days.. it does not show the dirt as much as a chickenshit yellow shirt or a blood stained red shirt... Red white and blue shirts are cool as long as they are not made of any flag like resemblance.. Earth tones are good..

Black is still the best.. I must admit I never would condone or favor a WWII German outfit.. but they sure had a great looks and the colors were wonderful..lovely uniforms in grey and black... The old US Marine corp uniforms and the British leather (or was that English Leather?) were also very nice.... yeah the Thai have a great series of good looking uniforms as well..

Okay, how about a pair of faded blue Levis and a tight black crew neck tee shirt.. Dress code of the day for all falongs in vogue..

[hawthorne]

Well Well very unfortunate mishap that some cretins have undertaken and killed some innocent people.  RIP to those killed and speedy recovery to those injuried.  A slow and hideous death to those involved with such violence.  

I will not change my travel plans because of a few jerk offs.  as long as the airports are open.

[maapaa]

dysl, on 2010-03-02 07:09:23, said:

... THAI!  don't destory your beautiful motherland! ...

  My first post here - don't know, if it will come out or not ....  I think, it's all about majority and minority:  A few hooligans can stop a football match - but the media will focus on them.  A few religious extremists don't want to stop fighting against other confessions - but they have influence on world politics.  And talking about Thailand: The majority of Thai people are really peaceful, very friendly and don't want to see this kind of problems in their beloved country.  But there are some people throwing granades in BKK and bombs in the South - and atonce they are becoming the talk of the day.   Don't get me wrong - there's no reason to hide anything. Never. But most cities, most places in Thailand are safe and quiet. No reason to panic.

[lensta]

elcent, on 2010-03-02 14:48:22, said:

Where the h_ll is SNAFU ... oops Sifu the Swat when you need it the most?

        

[lensta]

elcent, on 2010-03-02 14:58:24, said:

has anybody noticed the remarks of K Suthep?

He said: "There's nothing unusual about it" - these are the words of Deputy Prime Minister in charge of security affairs, Suthep Thaugsuban

In any other nation he'd get a big walking stick for such a comment.

Well he is not exactly the brightest light bulb in the batch, is he??

[elcent]

maapaa, on 2010-03-02 15:36:01, said:

dysl, on 2010-03-02 07:09:23, said:

... THAI!  don't destory your beautiful motherland! ...

  My first post here - don't know, if it will come out or not ....  I think, it's all about majority and minority:  A few hooligans can stop a football match - but the media will focus on them.  A few religious extremists don't want to stop fighting against other confessions - but they have influence on world politics.  And talking about Thailand: The majority of Thai people are really peaceful, very friendly and don't want to see this kind of problems in their beloved country.  But there are some people throwing granades in BKK and bombs in the South - and atonce they are becoming the talk of the day.   Don't get me wrong - there's no reason to hide anything. Never. But most cities, most places in Thailand are safe and quiet. No reason to panic.

you got a point here. But thinking further this is exactly what happens here, a minority dictates the majority and thus creates further miseries and crime.

[balo]

I feel safe and I tell all my friends its safe to travel to LOS.

But Im worried about the news media here in Europe , if it becomes headline news it will scare people off....

[elcent]

balo, on 2010-03-02 15:44:31, said:

I feel safe and I tell all my friends its safe to travel to LOS.

But Im worried about the news media here in Europe , if it becomes headline news it will scare people off....

Wehther you feel save or not. Fact is that miseries are created. I remember the time when people got butchered and three meters around the corner people where smiling and "mai pen rai". Food for thoughts.

[nonghoidave]

Thormaturge, on 2010-03-02 11:41:00, said:

These bomb attacks don't worry me but I am concerned about being robbed when I go to the ATM this week.  I understand  Sterling is down to around ThB 48 today. Daylight robbery !!

Are you ready to see the pound drop to @ 35? No? Better get ready........