thepanicandthevomit, on 2010-03-12 00:18:33, said:
Richb2004v2, on 2010-03-11 23:09:38, said:
I think that 'Extras' is the best comedy show I have seen for a long long time. Gervais has influenced comedy already. You can see his style in US comedy already. There are a few Uk shows that have tried but failed to take on his style too.
Nothing stays fresh for long though. I remember that Blackadder 1 and 2 were great but by 3 it was just the same joke over and over again.
I've never found the 'Falk 'andles' joke at all funny. I remember that the final few years of the Two Ronnie's were painful. They were synonymous with dead humour for some time towards the end. It's only been in the last 6 or 7 years that it became trendie to think they were comic geniuses. Although they had a few good spots they were certainly not 'Monty Python' as some like to claim.
There's a tendency to wallow in nostalgia. I always laugh when people drone on about the golden age of tv at christmas past, for instance.
Gervais is an influence, but he's also been heavily influenced himself, notably by Larry David and his superb Curb Your Enthusiasm.
The first series of Blackadder was crap - it only picked up when Ben Elton was drafted in. The second and third series were sublime; the fourth a little contrived, regurgitating old ideas, as you say. What Elton has since become turns me off Blackadder, however.
interested to hear your views on comics such as sacha baron cohen, and his characters ali g, borat and bruno.
Have been a fan since the 11 oclock show. Obviously very patchy but he's kept moving and kept it fresh in the process. Nice to see he's not a media-whore/sell out. Was good to see Tony Benn dick him as Ali G, however.
thepanicandthevomit, on 2010-03-12 00:18:33, said:
Richb2004v2, on 2010-03-11 23:09:38, said:
I think that 'Extras' is the best comedy show I have seen for a long long time. Gervais has influenced comedy already. You can see his style in US comedy already. There are a few Uk shows that have tried but failed to take on his style too.
Nothing stays fresh for long though. I remember that Blackadder 1 and 2 were great but by 3 it was just the same joke over and over again.
I've never found the 'Falk 'andles' joke at all funny. I remember that the final few years of the Two Ronnie's were painful. They were synonymous with dead humour for some time towards the end. It's only been in the last 6 or 7 years that it became trendie to think they were comic geniuses. Although they had a few good spots they were certainly not 'Monty Python' as some like to claim.
There's a tendency to wallow in nostalgia. I always laugh when people drone on about the golden age of tv at christmas past, for instance.
Gervais is an influence, but he's also been heavily influenced himself, notably by Larry David and his superb Curb Your Enthusiasm.
The first series of Blackadder was crap - it only picked up when Ben Elton was drafted in. The second and third series were sublime; the fourth a little contrived, regurgitating old ideas, as you say. What Elton has since become turns me off Blackadder, however.
interested to hear your views on comics such as sacha baron cohen, and his characters ali g, borat and bruno.
I thought that the Ali G character was brilliant in it's original format on the 11'clock show, and even the longer versions were good. I was turned off it when he did a comic relief special interview with the Beckhams. I found it quite disgusting and vulgar for vulgars sake. Although it was more a reflection on the idiot Beckhams it was still terrible.
I loved Borat and thought it was one of the funniest things I'd seen for a long time. Again, Borat in the sketch show was even better at times.
Bruno was not as funny and was for some one step beyond the pale, but I still enjoyed it. I think Cohen is good for comedy providing you can get over the shock factor of his material.
Blimey, am l in the wrong forum, Sooo sorry Ingred or is Brenda today. .
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Thelma, actually...
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Sorry Thelma, Well one things for sure, we are not all the same when it comes to comedy. On the whole here on the forum everyone likes the same sort of classic stuff, except a small minority, you Thelma, so we must conclude that you are wrong and that you only like a particular type of program to make you laugh.
Sorry Thelma, Well one things for sure, we are not all the same when it comes to comedy. On the whole here on the forum everyone likes the same sort of classic stuff, except a small minority, you Thelma, so we must conclude that you are wrong and that you only like a particular type of program to make you laugh.
thepanicandthevomit, on 2010-03-13 01:03:41, said:
transam, on 2010-03-12 11:01:12, said:
Sorry Thelma, Well one things for sure, we are not all the same when it comes to comedy. On the whole here on the forum everyone likes the same sort of classic stuff, except a small minority, you Thelma, so we must conclude that you are wrong and that you only like a particular type of program to make you laugh.
Sorry, but that accusation fits you to a tee.
Well Thelma, in that case, it looks like it's all down to YOUR interpretation of the word "classic".
another one i liked was, this life. at the time sharing a house with five others, it would be a ritual to gather round the t.v at about 9p.m. on a tuesday night in the winter months. take away from the local indian restaurant, couple of bottle of wine. it was like watching our own experiences unfold right infront of our very own eyes, the odd glance to other members of the house, when certain topics would come up in the series if you get what i mean.
whislt on the subject, but a bit off topic. anyone got any favourite u.s. t.v. shows. or should i start another thread on that subject. for that matter any other countries.
used to like watching the wonder years, cheers, 30 something, l.a. law, beavis and butthead, and frasier. sure theres more just cant think of them at the moment, oh and the paul hogan show from oz.
Bevis & Butthead were great. Now I like South Park. I bought series 13 this week after about a year of waiting for it to be available here.
There is not a lot of US comedy that I really like at the minute. I've been trying for months to get hold of 'Curb your Enthusiasm' as I think that might be good, but no luck finding it anywhere.
an', whaddabout 'till death to us part' with the Alf Garnet character? One of america's best loved sitcoms 'All in the Family' was based on that show...Archie Bunker's lounge chair now resides in the Smithsonian...
an', whaddabout 'Upstairs, Downstairs'?...or was that not aired in the UK an' produced for american viewers only as an illustration of the 'class system'? I was an addict, useta be every week on Masterpiece Theater presented by Alistair Cooke as was 'I, Claudius' also a big hit in the US...
anyway, it's a Daily Telegraph poll innit, buncha tory wanke_rs but I haveta admit that they included Boys from the Black Stuff and Cathy Come Home...to be fair...
'so then, tutsi...Rita tells me that you were made redundant...'
anyway, it's a Daily Telegraph poll innit, buncha tory wanke_rs but I haveta admit that they included Boys from the Black Stuff and Cathy Come Home...to be fair...
That will be socialist sh!te then ?
Seeing Thelma mentioned above - who can forget The Likely Lads ? - I had.
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thepanicandthevomit, on 2010-03-12 00:18:33, said:
if you get what i mean.
