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[kurtgruen]

frodo, on 2010-03-11 15:24:39, said:

pault17, on 2010-03-11 14:17:26, said:

I don't understand this government. They say they want to prevent violence, but seem to mainly do things that incite anger (and thus violence).
And I start to wonder if that's not what they are really after, so they have an excuse to crush it (violently).

Maybe they're trying to prevent extreme violence. After all UDD leader Arisiman did tell protesters to fill up containers with petrol once they arrived in Bangkok. Really, who wants thousands of hot heads carrying containers full of petrol which can be used for nefarious ways. Preventive medicine perhaps?

They'll probably get them mixed up with their Lao Khao

[wolf5370]

Why announce you are closing the petrol stations so far in advance? Surely this just p!sses of the locals, the protectors will (as they said they have) stockpile ready. Where's the benefit?

I wonder if there are any laws about transporting fuel here that could cause pick-ups carrying barrels to have their 'cargo' confiscated on the way down?

[frodo]

kurtgruen, on 2010-03-11 14:28:52, said:

frodo, on 2010-03-11 15:24:39, said:

pault17, on 2010-03-11 14:17:26, said:

I don't understand this government. They say they want to prevent violence, but seem to mainly do things that incite anger (and thus violence).
And I start to wonder if that's not what they are really after, so they have an excuse to crush it (violently).

Maybe they're trying to prevent extreme violence. After all UDD leader Arisiman did tell protesters to fill up containers with petrol once they arrived in Bangkok. Really, who wants thousands of hot heads carrying containers full of petrol which can be used for nefarious ways. Preventive medicine perhaps?

They'll probably get them mixed up with their Lao Khao

Again, preventive medicine. The last thing the hospitals need is a million petrol poisonings.

[SantiSuk]

Jeez - this shows what a third world country Thailand really is.

Nothing about this on the international news broadcasters that I had switched on this morning (BBC World, CNN, Bloomberg) - surprising.

[asiawatcher]

MyphuketLife, on 2010-03-11 14:02:41, said:

wow "Early this morning government lawyers applied to the Thailand Supreme Court for an order closing all radio and television stations affiliated with the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD). "

Supressing their voice?

Good move if 'inciting to riot'... that is a criminal conviction so hard to put a 'radio station' in the can!

Edited by asiawatcher, 2010-03-11 14:33:32.

[asiawatcher]

frodo, on 2010-03-11 14:31:04, said:

kurtgruen, on 2010-03-11 14:28:52, said:

frodo, on 2010-03-11 15:24:39, said:

pault17, on 2010-03-11 14:17:26, said:

I don't understand this government. They say they want to prevent violence, but seem to mainly do things that incite anger (and thus violence).
And I start to wonder if that's not what they are really after, so they have an excuse to crush it (violently).

Maybe they're trying to prevent extreme violence. After all UDD leader Arisiman did tell protesters to fill up containers with petrol once they arrived in Bangkok. Really, who wants thousands of hot heads carrying containers full of petrol which can be used for nefarious ways. Preventive medicine perhaps?

They'll probably get them mixed up with their Lao Khao

Again, preventive medicine. The last thing the hospitals need is a million petrol poisonings.

The Red Necks will have nothing to sniff!!!

[happygirl]

crazy, how the hel_l do they expect legit businesses to function trying to make normal deliveries when they shut down the fuel stations. If the protestors are trying to bring the country to a standstill then they are doing a dam_n good job of it already, before the rally starts. And the powers that be are playing right into their hands.

[GuyLakeman]

frodo, on 2010-03-11 14:24:39, said:

pault17, on 2010-03-11 14:17:26, said:

I don't understand this government. They say they want to prevent violence, but seem to mainly do things that incite anger (and thus violence).
And I start to wonder if that's not what they are really after, so they have an excuse to crush it (violently).

Maybe they're trying to prevent extreme violence. After all UDD leader Arisiman did tell protesters to fill up containers with petrol once they arrived in Bangkok. Really, who wants thousands of hot heads carrying containers full of petrol which can be used for nefarious ways. Preventive medicine perhaps?

from previous experience/action it could be a setup to shoot anyone holding a bottle of pop !

stay inside the killer B's are coming ...


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[thaibkk]

next step : shut down all Thai ISP , to there is no objective talk/chat/information possible...

[asiawatcher]

Closed Radio Stations (there is nothing worth listening to anyway)

Hobbled TV Stations (at last - get rid of the dumb as* game shows)

Closed Petrol/Diesel outlets - ulp... well maybe that is a good thing - use taxis, run them out of petrol and gas and then they can't support Takky! Run the buses out and they will park them so they can't burn them - apart from preventing the use of petrol bombs and so on.

Closed roads and so on, why not call Songkran early and splash water and throw powder. Then we would have excuses to carry 44 gal drums of water to dampen their spirits and put out any fires!

Sounds like a plan?

[asiawatcher]

happygirl, on 2010-03-11 14:33:50, said:

crazy, how the hel_l do they expect legit businesses to function trying to make normal deliveries when they shut down the fuel stations. If the protestors are trying to bring the country to a standstill then they are doing a dam_n good job of it already, before the rally starts. And the powers that be are playing right into their hands.

Do you think anyone really cares in this country about legit business? This whole thing is self centered around one man, a convicted criminal who is on the run with a pocket full of change. He cares nought about Thailand or its people. Megalomaniacs and narcissist are like that!

[pauln]

The story is attributed to "Thai Visa News" with no other news agency link. A blanket ban on petrol sales seems unlikely considering that the majority of car-owning Bangkokians support the current government. And what about businesses, or emergencies? A move like this would upset the whole city population.

[Moonrakers]

kurtgruen, on 2010-03-11 14:20:02, said:

Losangels, on 2010-03-11 15:09:08, said:

Yes the government is over reacting, very likely make the situation from bad to worse.
What's next, closing down banks?

I don't think they are overreacting. I think they just don't want to be caught with their pants down, like the previous Somchai government.

I think, they should come down hard on these clowns, who want to bring down the government...then deal with the international "outrage" for a week. After, everyone in the rest of the World will forget it happened, (except for a few Granolas) and life will go on normal, without a bunch of agitators around.

There are times, when democracy is truly overrated ;-)

An example of how hypocrisy is present on both sides of the argument.

[SeanMoran]

pauln, on 2010-03-11 07:45:03, said:

The story is attributed to "Thai Visa News" with no other news agency link. A blanket ban on petrol sales seems unlikely considering that the majority of car-owning Bangkokians support the current government. And what about businesses, or emergencies? A move like this would upset the whole city population.

Just a guess, but one reason might be that service stations are in themselves rather volatile sorts of places when people are running around shooting guns or thropwing grenades or lighting torches or fires or whatever. A closed petrol station is probably quite a bit safer for running amok around than one in operation at the time, particularly if there are no customers there at the time.

[Junglejumbo]

I'm not sure that I believe this news. How can they just stop selling fuel? Then there should be a public holiday also as how can people drive to work, meetings, etc. What about ambulances?

I think perhaps there's a translation problem. Perhaps only PTT will not deliver new fuel over the weekend in case their trucks are hijacked.....However, other oil companies are not involved and garages that still have inventories at PTT can continue to sell....Am I right?

[anotherpeter]

Junglejumbo, on 2010-03-11 14:54:10, said:

I'm not sure that I believe this news. How can they just stop selling fuel? Then there should be a public holiday also as how can people drive to work, meetings, etc. What about ambulances?

I think perhaps there's a translation problem. Perhaps only PTT will not deliver new fuel over the weekend in case their trucks are hijacked.....However, other oil companies are not involved and garages that still have inventories at PTT can continue to sell....Am I right?

I think you might be. PTT is a company, not the government (at least I think it is). A company has decided not to risk it's assets by delivering to dangerous areas.

[pauln]

SeanMoran, on 2010-03-11 14:51:37, said:

pauln, on 2010-03-11 07:45:03, said:

The story is attributed to "Thai Visa News" with no other news agency link. A blanket ban on petrol sales seems unlikely considering that the majority of car-owning Bangkokians support the current government. And what about businesses, or emergencies? A move like this would upset the whole city population.

Just a guess, but one reason might be that service stations are in themselves rather volatile sorts of places when people are running around shooting guns or thropwing grenades or lighting torches or fires or whatever. A closed petrol station is probably quite a bit safer for running amok around than one in operation at the time, particularly if there are no customers there at the time.

I can see the logic of that for pumps in areas that might be affected, but a blanket closure over the whole city and its surrounding provinces? If its true, its overkill. Many suburban areas have never seen any kind of trouble throughout the history of coups and demonstrations in and around Bangkok.

[londonthai]

as I have said before, there is no petrol at the stations, don't expect it for sometimes.

I have spoken to my stepson, who was trying to fill his bike at several stations - to no avail.

some shops are stopping to sell foods, hoping for the better price within days.

now people are trying to withdraw their savings, even to have some cash on hand during the troubled times - without work there won't be wages. I would think that cash mashines would run out of notes and nobody will fill them up again. Even bank cards might stop working if the internet is disrupted

Edited by londonthai, 2010-03-11 15:12:15.

[Asa]

Red shirts in Ayudhya was told there will be no/little fuel for them in Bangkok. So they have to store up enough gas for return trip. This is a very scary tactic of the enrgy ministry to close gas stations in Bangkok ahead of the rally. Now, people have to stay put at home, but the tanker lorries will be running amok in the capital instead.

[SeanMoran]

pauln, on 2010-03-11 07:58:05, said:

SeanMoran, on 2010-03-11 14:51:37, said:

pauln, on 2010-03-11 07:45:03, said:

The story is attributed to "Thai Visa News" with no other news agency link. A blanket ban on petrol sales seems unlikely considering that the majority of car-owning Bangkokians support the current government. And what about businesses, or emergencies? A move like this would upset the whole city population.

Just a guess, but one reason might be that service stations are in themselves rather volatile sorts of places when people are running around shooting guns or thropwing grenades or lighting torches or fires or whatever. A closed petrol station is probably quite a bit safer for running amok around than one in operation at the time, particularly if there are no customers there at the time.

I can see the logic of that for pumps in areas that might be affected, but a blanket closure over the whole city and its surrounding provinces? If its true, its overkill. Many suburban areas have never seen any kind of trouble throughout the history of coups and demonstrations in and around Bangkok.

IMHO it might only be part of the total reasons, for the average diesel ute would probably make it from Khorat to Bangkok and back on one tank, and anyone with pyromanic molotov tendencies would be likely to BYO benzine from somewhere closer to home, especially if they've had advanced warning.

I vaguely remember sometime in the past year or two, there was a benzine station blown up somewhere in Bangkok or Nonthaburi, although I've not got the archives on hand to clarify the details. If I recall, it was attributed to Southern insurgents, that one. It might be a little overcautious, and we've yet to see the actual results of this pending ban, and how far out of Dusit it extends, thus the reasons cannot be all that solidly recognised yet, but most cars are likely to get at least 500km or more like 800-1,000 or more on a full tank, so it might pay to plan ahead, because it's better to be safe than sorrowfully incinerated.

[RigPig]

I am arriving back on the 13th will there be any cabs running?

[toybits]

This is probably the best news I have ever heard in a long time. No petrol sales mean cleaner air and less carbon-dioxide emissions!

[londonthai]

RigPig, on 2010-03-11 08:14:22, said:

I am arriving back on the 13th will there be any cabs running?

there would be everyting - at the price. I wouldn't expect any of the taxi drivers at the airport to turn on the meter - they are the first to take any opportunity to make some money on foreigners. Try to count on the public transport, it would be running, but overloaded

[happygirl]

asiawatcher, on 2010-03-11 14:42:40, said:

happygirl, on 2010-03-11 14:33:50, said:

crazy, how the hel_l do they expect legit businesses to function trying to make normal deliveries when they shut down the fuel stations. If the protestors are trying to bring the country to a standstill then they are doing a dam_n good job of it already, before the rally starts. And the powers that be are playing right into their hands.

Do you think anyone really cares in this country about legit business? This whole thing is self centered around one man, a convicted criminal who is on the run with a pocket full of change. He cares nought about Thailand or its people. Megalomaniacs and narcissist are like that!

not a truer word spoken Asiawatcher, how silly of me not to think of that

[aikawa]

Urm where did ThaiVisa get the source for this news? I cant seem to find it anywhere?