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Video - First Victim Of Red Shirt Violence

#1 User is offline   bubba 

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Posted 2010-03-12 18:07

This is from Pathumthani. If anyone else runs across similar video clips, perhaps we could use this thread for posting them here.

http://76.nationchan...eo.php?id=84246

//Edit by Maestro: the video to which bubba has given a link is now also available on Youtube:


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Posted 2010-03-12 18:17

Looks as if the guy got out of his car and was harassing the red-shirt. Who knows? That clip doesn't show what was happening to cause it.
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#3 User is offline   bubba 

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Posted 2010-03-12 18:20

View PostBottlerocket, on 2010-03-12 18:17:51, said:

Looks as if the guy got out of his car and was harassing the red-shirt. Who knows? That clip doesn't show what was happening to cause it.


Perhaps he was shouting his disapproval of the reds or something of the sort. But the red clearly ran over and attacked him. That is in no way justifiable.
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Posted 2010-03-12 18:29

With hundreds of thousands of people involved you would expect incidents like this. It happens at football matches, concerts or anywhere else there's a large crowd. It hardly constitutes "red shirt violence".
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Posted 2010-03-12 18:34

looks like a setup scene.

why are there so much cameras and why aren't the blows harder?

This post has been edited by manarak: 2010-03-12 18:36

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Posted 2010-03-12 18:40

View Postbubba, on 2010-03-12 18:20:26, said:

View PostBottlerocket, on 2010-03-12 18:17:51, said:

Looks as if the guy got out of his car and was harassing the red-shirt. Who knows? That clip doesn't show what was happening to cause it.


Perhaps he was shouting his disapproval of the reds or something of the sort. But the red clearly ran over and attacked him. That is in no way justifiable.


Typical Thailand - two blokes fighting and the interested crowd circling round videoing it and taking pictures making absolutely no effort at all to stop the two silly men from fighting in the street. It's a good job that one of them wasn't a foreigner as the big brave crowd would have started kicking and hitting the nasty foreigner and then running away in case they got hit back. The police would then have arrested the foreign trouble maker regardless of who was actually guilty of any misdemeanour and we would all be reading about foreign thugs attacking lovely peaceful Thai people.
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Posted 2010-03-12 18:42

View Postedwardandtubs, on 2010-03-12 18:29:24, said:

With hundreds of thousands of people involved you would expect incidents like this. It happens at football matches, concerts or anywhere else there's a large crowd. It hardly constitutes "red shirt violence".

It hardly constitutes a "peaceful protest" either.
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Posted 2010-03-12 18:44

View Postmanarak, on 2010-03-12 18:34:42, said:

looks like a setup scene.

why are there so much cameras and why aren't the blows harder?

1) Everyone's been told to have cameras so they can provide evidence of shirt-A fighting shirt-B.
2) They are 2 old guys. They're hardly boxers.
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Posted 2010-03-12 18:49

View PostBottlerocket, on 2010-03-12 18:17:51, said:

Looks as if the guy got out of his car and was harassing the red-shirt. Who knows? That clip doesn't show what was happening to cause it.

How dare anyone disagree verbally, with a Red-Shirt, do they think they're living in a democracy ? ! :D

View Postmanarak, on 2010-03-12 18:34:42, said:

looks like a setup scene.

why are there so much cameras and why aren't the blows harder?

Yes, the Red-Shirt had obviously failed martial-arts, at UDD training-school. :)
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Posted 2010-03-12 18:58

with a "victim of violence" in the title I would expect a little bit more than 13 seconds fist fight by 2 blokes. Apparently "the victim" first throw a kick, which made him to fall
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Posted 2010-03-12 19:01

View PostNick33, on 2010-03-12 19:40:39, said:

View Postbubba, on 2010-03-12 18:20:26, said:

View PostBottlerocket, on 2010-03-12 18:17:51, said:

Looks as if the guy got out of his car and was harassing the red-shirt. Who knows? That clip doesn't show what was happening to cause it.


Perhaps he was shouting his disapproval of the reds or something of the sort. But the red clearly ran over and attacked him. That is in no way justifiable.


Typical Thailand - two blokes fighting and the interested crowd circling round videoing it and taking pictures making absolutely no effort at all to stop the two silly men from fighting in the street. It's a good job that one of them wasn't a foreigner as the big brave crowd would have started kicking and hitting the nasty foreigner and then running away in case they got hit back. The police would then have arrested the foreign trouble maker regardless of who was actually guilty of any misdemeanour and we would all be reading about foreign thugs attacking lovely peaceful Thai people.


I love "typical Thailand," then filled in by some British farang. Typical Thais that I know are very nice and respectful people. I guess it may be the elements one surrounds themselves with? There are bad people in any country, but they are not typical... :)
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Posted 2010-03-12 19:12

View Postmanarak, on 2010-03-12 18:34:42, said:

looks like a setup scene.

why are there so much cameras and why aren't the blows harder?



It REALLY DOES look faked. :)
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Posted 2010-03-12 19:22

Certainly the fella in the pink shirt needs to improve his push kick, can't see him fighting at Lumpini stadium soon :)
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Posted 2010-03-12 19:46

Dont think it was staged,the guy in the pink shirt had his face smashed in by the other guys loudhailer,this is clearly visible in the video taken after at the police station.Pretty bad looking head wound.


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Posted 2010-03-12 19:58

Technically, the fellow in the pink shirt could be a red sympathizer, just a lighter version. Perhaps he made fun of the other guy's cowboy hat.

All in all a display of stupidity. Pinky should have kept his mouth shut. And red should have stayed in the pickup, even if pinky may have asked him how much for a hayride. Who knows what provoked the bitchslapfest? It is idiotic and regretable, but sadly it happens everyday in Thailand, usually with men coming home and slapping their wives or girlfriends or kids about. Don't suppose that will make youtube.........
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Posted 2010-03-12 19:59

purely an observation...

WHy doesn't anyone tend to the bleeding wound on the man's head?

Could it be, it looks better on camera?

Didn't he have the 30bht for the health care?

ok, observation and a little taking the micky... My bad.
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Posted 2010-03-12 20:18

really makes you think whether human beings are any different from pack of wild monkeys fighting over who gets the ripe banana
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Posted 2010-03-12 20:21

Seen this one already. Anyone got any clips of Yellow shirt violence or police violence ?

Really ? There aren't any, wow, such honest, democratic, upstanding citizens.
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Posted 2010-03-12 20:29

View PostBottlerocket, on 2010-03-12 18:17:51, said:

Looks as if the guy got out of his car and was harassing the red-shirt. Who knows? That clip doesn't show what was happening to cause it.


Well, get a grip! It is patently clear that it was the red shirt who exercised the violence. Not unexpected either. It is interesting that the red shirt leaders and Thaksin's ex-wife and kids, have fled the country to leave their moron thugs to take the gaff for a lousy 2,000 baht each. Laying your ass on the line for an absentee tyrant has just got to be more valuable than 2,000 baht.
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Posted 2010-03-12 20:29

Not nearly as funny as the Monty Python fish-slapping sketch......................IMHO!
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Posted 2010-03-12 20:31

You are being sarcastic, right? If I remember right, the yellow shirts were attacking people, holding knives to their necks, firing guns... the PAD were far from peaceful.

Both sides have their violent extremists... the only difference is that the PAD (who have openly called for a less democratic form of government) got their way...
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Posted 2010-03-12 20:32

[quote name='Bottlerocket' date='2010-03-12 18:17:51' post='3408356']
Looks as if the guy got out of his car and was harassing the red-shirt. Who knows? That clip doesn't show what was happening to cause it.
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Take a look at the beginning again. I did, 5 times. To me it looks like the red shirt did a twist to dodge a flying object, jumped down off the back of truck, did what looks like a twist and dodge from another flying object. Small rocks would be hard to spot in this video.
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Posted 2010-03-12 20:33

View Postukfool, on 2010-03-12 14:21:07, said:

Seen this one already. Anyone got any clips of Yellow shirt violence or police violence ?

Really ? There aren't any, wow, such honest, democratic, upstanding citizens.

Google is your friend.

Violence occurring at those demonstrations some two years ago was discussed at length in this forum at the time.
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Posted 2010-03-12 20:37

You can tell it is a set up. It is one on one. Usually 10 on 1 at least. That gave it away for me.

I do like the Benny Hill slap stick though. I am sure there will be a lot more to come over the next few days.

:)
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Posted 2010-03-12 20:38

disguised in pink, guess who?
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