213 replies to this topic
Posted 2010-03-20 14:11:38
 rixalex, on 2010-03-20 13:59:28, said:
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 13:53:15, said: Watch the spin machine now. Attacking the observer and making excuses to recover their propaganda.
I challenge the Nation reporters to report what is actually happening on the street and what I observed personally. Even that, though will probably not silence those who will attack anybody or anything that threatens their ego.
Bring it on. I am just wishing for peace and equality for all Thais and see the country return to respect and prosperity and hoping that cooler heads will find a way to correct the wrongs and get there.
You don't seem to know the difference between being questioned and being attacked.
Fine choose the word that suits you. I respect your right to believe whatever you like.
I didn't see a single word that refuted what I observed. Just Knee jerk!
Hopefully legitimate media will get on the street and report honestly what many Bangkok residents have already observed. You can't take back what has been observed.
Posted 2010-03-20 14:19:56
stormnut, on 2010-03-20 10:55:46, said: craigt3365, on 2010-03-20 12:23:17, said: Abhisit's doing great. Hard to do good in this environment, politically or economically. Thaksin saying "you" robbed me of 40M Baht. Ha! More like he robbed it from the citizens of Thailand...he did earn money because he has a brain. He is dang smart. Too bad he opted to use corruption to enhance his wealth instead of good ol' business logic...not so smart after all I guess? Can't wait until he fades away...
My Thai wife tells me and so does what I have read, that Thaskin made his money BEFORE entering parliament fom companies he owned. I believe he sold a brewery to Singapore (Tiger Lager ??? ) and also a telecommunications company.
Don't know if what i have read is fact or fiction tho
I was quaffing Tiger Beer in Singapore long before Thaksin was born. He has never had enough dosh to buy them - ever.
From the APB website :-
Listed on the Singapore Exchange, Asia Pacific Breweries Limited (APB) is one of the key players in the beer industry. A joint venture between the Fraser and Neave Group of companies and Heineken International, APB was established as Malayan Breweries Limited (MBL) in 1931. It went on to open its first brewery in Singapore and launched the award-winning Tiger Beer a year later.
To more accurately reflect the growing regionalisation of its business interests, MBL was renamed Asia Pacific Breweries Limited in 1990. Today, APB oversees a portfolio of over 40 beer brands and brand variants, including Tiger Beer, Heineken, Anchor and ABC Stout. The group operates an extensive global marketing network, which spreads across some 60 countries and is currently supported by breweries in countries including Singapore, Cambodia, China, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Mongolia, New Caledonia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Sri Lanka, Thailand, and Vietnam.
Posted 2010-03-20 14:20:08
I was watching the parade (and yes that's a good description of what was going on) today and saw many people cheering on and waving to the Redshirts. However, as I was walking to and from the main road I saw many more people either ignoring the parade entirely or watching it with rather wary, reserved expressions.
We should remember that a large percentage of people in Bangkok are economic migrants, mostly from the North and Northeast. Many of them will be Thaksin supporters.
Posted 2010-03-20 14:21:09
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 14:11:38, said: Fine choose the word that suits you.
Not a case of the word that suits me, a case of the word that is accurate. I wasn't attacking you, i was questioning your conclusions. I wish you would address the point i made.
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 14:11:38, said: I didn't see a single word that refuted what I observed. Just Knee jerk!
Perhaps you need to read my post again - seems you didn't take it in properly.
I wasn't questioning what you saw, i was questioning what you concluded from what you saw.
Posted 2010-03-20 14:28:52
Thai at Heart, on 2010-03-20 10:22:41, said: craigt3365, on 2010-03-20 03:15:02, said: richard10365, on 2010-03-20 09:58:16, said: If it wasn't for the media, I would never know anything is happening in Bangkok. Life in Chiang Mai seems as normal as always.
Same everywhere other than Bangkok. Love the city, but glad I don't live there right now!
Just saw the Aljazeera interview of Abhisit. I have seen him on TV before, but only when speaking Thai. His English is perfect, though he does have a bit of that funny English accent. Just kidding!
Definitely a smart man. Easy going, cool, great answers. Not like the rants of Thaksin. He threw the class war back in Thaksin's face, calling him an elite also. And asking why he wasn't here sleeping on the streets with his followers? The interviewer asked if he promised security for Thaksin if he came back. Abhisit said yes, but he would have to go to jail and serve his term out. Guess Thaksin's ego is too large for that...or he would miss his coffee and cake while lounging in Montenegro...guess I can't really blame him on that one!
If you were brought up in Eton college, you would probably have a funny English accent also.
Actually Abisit was born in Newcastle Upon Tyne, went to Eton and then on to Oxfors University so no wonder he sounds good and he does come across very well.
There are issues that need sorting out, it will take time, who would you trust to sort it out Abhisit or Taksin?
Educate the poor, improve health system, infrastructure and communications for a start, get a plan together that hopefully all sides can agree on with a timeframe and work together not against each other. The Irish issue has taken,is taking time in the UK. Whilst I am at it sort out the payfor promotion game too there is no place for that, merit only. Out of very dark days opportunites arise, anyone out there looking
Posted 2010-03-20 14:33:00
otherstuff1957, on 2010-03-20 14:20:08, said: I was watching the parade (and yes that's a good description of what was going on) today and saw many people cheering on and waving to the Redshirts. However, as I was walking to and from the main road I saw many more people either ignoring the parade entirely or watching it with rather wary, reserved expressions.
We should remember that a large percentage of people in Bangkok are economic migrants, mostly from the North and Northeast. Many of them will be Thaksin supporters.
Exactly. The office where my wife works, the office where I work and the office where we both worked previously are in very thin supply of red shirt sympathisers.
The workers at the garage we filled the car up at this morning, on the other hard, quickly got out their red attire as a few pickups parked nearby. Same goes for the motorbike taxis.
Displeasure was also voiced  hold fast Thailand 
Posted 2010-03-20 14:37:49
nong38, on 2010-03-20 15:28:52, said: Thai at Heart, on 2010-03-20 10:22:41, said: craigt3365, on 2010-03-20 03:15:02, said: richard10365, on 2010-03-20 09:58:16, said: If it wasn't for the media, I would never know anything is happening in Bangkok. Life in Chiang Mai seems as normal as always.
Same everywhere other than Bangkok. Love the city, but glad I don't live there right now!
Just saw the Aljazeera interview of Abhisit. I have seen him on TV before, but only when speaking Thai. His English is perfect, though he does have a bit of that funny English accent. Just kidding!
Definitely a smart man. Easy going, cool, great answers. Not like the rants of Thaksin. He threw the class war back in Thaksin's face, calling him an elite also. And asking why he wasn't here sleeping on the streets with his followers? The interviewer asked if he promised security for Thaksin if he came back. Abhisit said yes, but he would have to go to jail and serve his term out. Guess Thaksin's ego is too large for that...or he would miss his coffee and cake while lounging in Montenegro...guess I can't really blame him on that one!
If you were brought up in Eton college, you would probably have a funny English accent also.
Actually Abisit was born in Newcastle Upon Tyne, went to Eton and then on to Oxfors University so no wonder he sounds good and he does come across very well.
There are issues that need sorting out, it will take time, who would you trust to sort it out Abhisit or Taksin?
Educate the poor, improve health system, infrastructure and communications for a start, get a plan together that hopefully all sides can agree on with a timeframe and work together not against each other. The Irish issue has taken,is taking time in the UK. Whilst I am at it sort out the payfor promotion game too there is no place for that, merit only. Out of very dark days opportunites arise, anyone out there looking
There is no tax base in Thailand to do all that needs doing. Abhisit is the ONLY PM who has attempted to expand the tax base to broaden the social safety net. When he originally proposed taxation for property and inheritance it went over poorly as you might expect. He needs to get more canny and co-opt this movement to help him attain his goals on their behalf. That's what I'd be telling him if I were his advisor. He would have more than enough votes in Parliament to get this stuff through if the primary beeficiaries of these services were to work with him rather than against him and not for the megalomaniac robber baron Thaksin.
Edited by lannarebirth, 2010-03-20 14:39:33.
Posted 2010-03-20 15:03:53
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 13:53:15, said: rixalex, on 2010-03-20 13:13:33, said: khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 12:56:19, said: Watching the parade in Bangkok now, one get's the idea that the vast part of the Bangkokians support the movement.
Does one really?
Do you know what the population of Bangkok is? Do you think that you are qualified to conclude having seen a few hands being waved that the "vast part of Bangkokians support the movement"? !
I think if that were true, bearing in mind today is a Saturday with many people off work, and bearing in mind that it's right on people's doorsteps, the city would be teeming. It is not. Media isn't the only outlet capable of spin.
Watch the spin machine now. Attacking the observer and making excuses to recover their propaganda.
I challenge the Nation reporters to report what is actually happening on the street and what I observed personally. Even that, though will probably not silence those who will attack anybody or anything that threatens their ego.
Bring it on. I am just wishing for peace and equality for all Thais and see the country return to respect and prosperity and hoping that cooler heads will find a way to correct the wrongs and get there.
Seeing a few people on the street waving back is not indicative of "the vast part of the Bangkokians suupport"ing the movement --- it is indicative of a few people that are either red shirts or are supportive of red shirts waving.
What you are ,in fact, seeing is the vast part of Bangkok heeding the mayor's warning to avoid being on the street.
Edited by jdinasia, 2010-03-20 15:04:46.
Posted 2010-03-20 15:05:55
rixalex, on 2010-03-20 14:21:09, said: khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 14:11:38, said: Fine choose the word that suits you.
Not a case of the word that suits me, a case of the word that is accurate. I wasn't attacking you, i was questioning your conclusions. I wish you would address the point i made.
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 14:11:38, said: I didn't see a single word that refuted what I observed. Just Knee jerk!
Perhaps you need to read my post again - seems you didn't take it in properly.
I wasn't questioning what you saw, i was questioning what you concluded from what you saw.
This looks like a useless discussion but:
I'm not sure what your native language is but when you question the veracity of one's statement of an observation without reason or evidence, that is known as an attack.
Despite your condescension, I am amazed that you are capable of judging what I observed or what it meant.
As an earlier poster pointed out there are many poor and upcountry people living in Bangkok. Perhaps these were the supporters or even perhaps other Bangkokians who feel some sympathy for those people. I really don't know why they are supportive but the point was they appeared supportive.
I really don't want to continue this tit for tat unless you have some useful facts.
As I said earlier hopefully we'll see some reputable journalists corroborating my observations.
It would be nice if you had some facts to contribute.
Regards,
edited to correct spelling
Edited by khunjamespittman, 2010-03-20 15:13:01.
Posted 2010-03-20 15:09:42
hmmmmm I am capable of seeing the news including what is on People TV --- it is obvious that the "vast part" of Bangkokians are not doing what you are suggesting. In fact, it would be fair to say that just a tiny part almost miniscule part are out showing any support of the reds at all!
We can be grateful that the "vast part" of Bangkokians are listening to the mayor and not going out to show their displeasure and the followers of Thaksin screwing up the weekend 
PS --- you haven't contributed any facts yourself, just some rather biased observations. Strange that People TV isn't showing what YOU claim to have seen
Edited by jdinasia, 2010-03-20 15:11:15.
Posted 2010-03-20 15:18:57
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 15:05:55, said: This looks like a useless discussion but:
I'm not sure what your native language is but when you question the voracity of one's statement of an observation without reason or evidence, that is known as an attack.
Despite your condescension, I am amazed that you are capable of judging what I observed or what it meant.
As an earlier poster pointed out there are many poor and upcountry people living in Bangkok. Perhaps these were the supporters or even perhaps other Bangkokians who feel some sympathy for those people. I really don't know why they are supportive but the point was they appeared supportive.
I really don't want to continue this tit for tat unless you have some useful facts.
As I said earlier hopefully we'll see some reputable journalists corroborating my observations.
It would be nice if you had some facts to contribute.
Regards,
Who's questioning your observations? Yes, there are a lot of people standing on the side of the road, waving. Well done. Gold star for awareness. Pat on the back, and all that. But to then expect any right thinking person to believe that the majority of a city of over 10 million people are able to stand on the side of the road at once just beggars belief. You made a ridiculous conclusion to your observation, and were called up on it. Have you seen the amount of space the 100,000, if that many, took up on Rachadamnoen Avenue? Any idea how much space 5 million people would take up on the side of the road? And how about these reputable journalists randomly asking protestors and "bystanders" exactly why they are doing it, what the red leaders hope to achieve, and what, in their opinion, would be the best policy for the next government to implement?
(Edit) - I just did a quick calculation. Assume one person takes up an area 0.5m x 0.5m, and they are arranged 4 deep. That gives 16 people per 2m length of road frontage. In order to get 5,000,000 standing along the road you would need 312,500 of these 2m squares, meaning it would have to be 625km long, or 312 if both sides were used. As I haven't observed people packed that tightly along the entire route, I must conclude that your conjecture is false.
Edited by ballpoint, 2010-03-20 15:31:11.
Posted 2010-03-20 15:29:32
Quote Is Thaksin an ammart or a phrai? He was prime minister and super-rich. Over the five years Khun Thaksin was prime minister, the country saw public debts increase twofold while his wealth rose twofold.
Strange line of argument from Mr Abhisit does this mean if you are rich you cannot represent the poor?
Should only the poor represent the poor and only the rich represent the rich?
surely this is parting classes and not uniting them?
Anyway Thaksin was once PM of Thailand.
Quote Thailand no longer has social classes called ammart and phrai. People are equal under the Constitution although they have unequal opportunities," the premier told TV Channel 5, referring to the terms used by Thaksin and his red-shirt supporters.
At least Abhisit recognises there are class issues in Thailand.
' date= said: Abhisit said that in addition to implementing policies aimed at reducing economic gaps between people in society, his government is pushing for the introduction of the country's first land and property tax.
So what's he going to do about it? land and property Tax? will solve the issues? What other policies exactly?
The only thing I am aware of are increased Tax on Cigarettes Alcohol and Gasoline.
One of the things that brought the UK aristocracy to its knees was "Inheritance Tax" he should try that?
Say on inheritances above 10MB That would make him very popular.
Actions are needed not just talk and more hubs.
Edited by monkfish, 2010-03-20 15:44:38.
Posted 2010-03-20 15:38:45
If only ignorance could be taxed, what a boon to the state's coffers that would be.
Edited by lannarebirth, 2010-03-20 15:52:49.
Posted 2010-03-20 16:04:43
jdinasia, on 2010-03-20 15:09:42, said: hmmmmm I am capable of seeing the news including what is on People TV --- it is obvious that the "vast part" of Bangkokians are not doing what you are suggesting. In fact, it would be fair to say that just a tiny part almost miniscule part are out showing any support of the reds at all!
We can be grateful that the "vast part" of Bangkokians are listening to the mayor and not going out to show their displeasure and the followers of Thaksin screwing up the weekend
PS --- you haven't contributed any facts yourself, just some rather biased observations. Strange that People TV isn't showing what YOU claim to have seen
JD, you maybe right in all your observations. I am unable to judge what I did not observe. It sounds like your observations were not first-hand, ie your mention of watching on TV.
I also point out that you are not capable of judging what I observed nor what I might conclude from that observation.
I believe a personally observed event is factual. You obviously do not.
I wouldn't know what People TV is showing. I might add it is not really pertinent. My post was about my observations. What was it mentioned for?
What in my statement is biased. 1. we were told Bangkokians would be angry and might attack the demonstrators (I observed no anger or attacks.) 2. most of the bystanders many of whom I would expect to be Bangkokians were waving and cheering on the demonstrators. Where is the bias? Those are factual observations.
Please, if you are going to challenge the veracity of a person's statement try to add something worthwhile that adds to knowledge in the forum. Don't just throw out the same tired old mantra about red bias or some TV station. It is counter-productive.
I am not red. I am not yellow. I have no color affiliations. My only hope is that the insults and name calling will stop and the wrongs be corrected so that all Thais will be treated equally and the country can return to peace and become prosperous again.
I hope you have similar goals.
Regards,
Posted 2010-03-20 16:05:20
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I think he was born in Newcastle but he doesn't seem to have much of a Geordie accent. 
Posted 2010-03-20 16:22:51
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 12:56:19, said: Watching the parade in Bangkok now, one get's the idea that the vast part of the Bangkokians support the movement. They seem to be very supportive of the demonstrators. They are waving the hands and cheering the demonstrators on.
Very interesting we were told the Bangkokians would be angry and even in the face of support shown by the Bangkokians for the demonstrators the news media would still have us believe that Bangkokians are against the demonstrators.
Resist believing the media spin. Make up your own mind. It appears that the majority of the Bangkokians are giving their support.
I did see a report earlier about some Bangkok locals being cleared out by security as they jeered the procession. Security is tight....I am sure a bunch of folks in BKK would love these guys to give it up.
Posted 2010-03-20 16:28:25
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 16:04:43, said: I believe a personally observed event is factual. You obviously do not.
For the upteemth time, nobody is questioning was you observed, we are questioning your conclusions highlighted in red below:
Watching the parade in Bangkok now, one get's the idea that the vast part of the Bangkokians support the movement. They seem to be very supportive of the demonstrators. They are waving the hands and cheering the demonstrators on.
Very interesting we were told the Bangkokians would be angry and even in the face of support shown by the Bangkokians for the demonstrators the news media would still have us believe that Bangkokians are against the demonstrators.
Resist believing the media spin. Make up your own mind. It appears that the majority of the Bangkokians are giving their support. khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 16:04:43, said: I am not red. I am not yellow. I have no color affiliations.
Anyone who has been reading your posts over the last few weeks will i think find that hard to believe.
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 16:04:43, said: My only hope is that the insults and name calling will stop and the wrongs be corrected so that all Thais will be treated equally and the country can return to peace and become prosperous again.
Toughen up a bit. Nobody has called you names. Nobody has attacked you. You have made conclusions from the snap-shot you have seen and people are questioning that conclusion. That's all.
Posted 2010-03-20 16:43:54
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 12:56:19, said: Watching the parade in Bangkok now, one get's the idea that the vast part of the Bangkokians support the movement. They seem to be very supportive of the demonstrators. They are waving the hands and cheering the demonstrators on.
Very interesting we were told the Bangkokians would be angry and even in the face of support shown by the Bangkokians for the demonstrators the news media would still have us believe that Bangkokians are against the demonstrators.
Resist believing the media spin. Make up your own mind. It appears that the majority of the Bangkokians are giving their support.
Ermmmm Look again .... the "crowds supporting them are only one line thin ..... a couple of 10.000's nothing more. I life on Ratchada and had to go through them. It looks big but if you start counting it is a lot less than it looks!
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Posted 2010-03-20 16:46:24
Hi.
Just got back from "parade observing". Thanks to my motorbike i was able tio "go with the parade" from Sukhumvit soi 71 to Rama IV, there i positioned myself and took about one hour of video clips. My observations:
- The whole thing is like a huge party. Many of the pickups play music, people dance.
- HUGE crowds on the sidewalks cheer the parade, most of them wear red. This is specially the case at intersections.
- Almost all of the pickups and cars in the parade have Bangkok license plates
- The parade observes traffic rules, but at certain points police and the reds' security personnel overrule traffic lights
- Normal traffic mixes with the parade which moves at "fast walking pace", no roads are actually blocked
- The reds are peaceful and helpful, too - as i was sitting down beside my bike while videoing, several came asking if i'm alright (was sitting in the sun)
Best regards.....
Thanh
PS - this was the first time i rode about 25 kilometers across Bangkok almost exclusively on the right-hand lane, passing countless cops - and was NOT stopped for riding on the right-hand lane
Edited by Thanh-BKK, 2010-03-20 16:48:45.
Posted 2010-03-20 16:48:00
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 13:53:15, said: rixalex, on 2010-03-20 13:13:33, said: khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 12:56:19, said: Watching the parade in Bangkok now, one get's the idea that the vast part of the Bangkokians support the movement.
Does one really?
Do you know what the population of Bangkok is? Do you think that you are qualified to conclude having seen a few hands being waved that the "vast part of Bangkokians support the movement"? !
I think if that were true, bearing in mind today is a Saturday with many people off work, and bearing in mind that it's right on people's doorsteps, the city would be teeming. It is not. Media isn't the only outlet capable of spin.
Watch the spin machine now. Attacking the observer and making excuses to recover their propaganda.
I challenge the Nation reporters to report what is actually happening on the street and what I observed personally. Even that, though will probably not silence those who will attack anybody or anything that threatens their ego.
Bring it on. I am just wishing for peace and equality for all Thais and see the country return to respect and prosperity and hoping that cooler heads will find a way to correct the wrongs and get there.
Pass the bag Alice.
You are just looking for cute ways to back up your hero Thaksin.
Looking for the high ground when you are an ideological bagman for Thaksin can't be easy.
Posted 2010-03-20 16:51:36
khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 09:04:43, said: What in my statement is biased. 1. we were told Bangkokians would be angry and might attack the demonstrators (I observed no anger or attacks.) 2. most of the bystanders many of whom I would expect to be Bangkokians were waving and cheering on the demonstrators. Where is the bias? Those are factual observations.
Regards,
You are right.There was a good deal of hysteria, partly whipped up by the government, about the prospect of violence.There wasn't any.Possibly some members are disappointed at this.
My guess is that most people in Bangkok are somewhat irritated at the inconvenience of the Red incursion but there's been no evidence of violent animosity against the Reds, indeed a surprising degree of support (i wouldn't say a majority though)
Basically there are a quite a few on this forum who were hoping for trouble and in some cases predicting it.They are looking foolish now.
Posted 2010-03-20 16:56:12
yoshiwara, on 2010-03-20 09:48:00, said: Pass the bag Alice.
You are just looking for cute ways to back up your hero Thaksin.
Looking for the high ground when you are an ideological bagman for Thaksin can't be easy.
Another example of the irritated apologists for authoritarianism, disappointed there was a non violent and peaceful assembly.
And when in doubt drag in Thaksin (the normal substitute for hard thinking about a complex subject), accuse your critics of being in his pay or in this case an "ideological bagman."
Posted 2010-03-20 17:14:41
lensta, on 2010-03-20 12:19:36, said: jdinasia, on 2010-03-20 11:01:44, said: lensta, on 2010-03-20 10:20:21, said: I may be wrong but wasn't it the Democrats or their supporters that said the votes
from the poor people of Thailand in an election should only be worth half a vote because
they are uneducated. Can't remember the exact wording so don't jump down my throat.
This doesn't sound like equality to me.
Hey you ARE correct (in that you said you may be wrong. Not only did the Democrats not say that ... nobody said that.
Wow, you have read and heard everything that is written or said about politics in Thailand and more importantly you can remember it all. My humble self is in awe of such a memory. Unfortunately I am not in your league.
I wish i could remember where but I saw the quote too
I remember at the time thinking how much anger it would cause if in Europe or the US
Posted 2010-03-20 17:21:47
May be right,or may be wrong.
If i was a Bangkokian i'd do the same.Be nice with your guests(uninvited)and hope they'll leave soon,so things get back to normal and i can go on with everyday life.
jayboy, on 2010-03-20 16:51:36, said: khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 09:04:43, said: What in my statement is biased. 1. we were told Bangkokians would be angry and might attack the demonstrators (I observed no anger or attacks.) 2. most of the bystanders many of whom I would expect to be Bangkokians were waving and cheering on the demonstrators. Where is the bias? Those are factual observations.
Regards,
You are right.There was a good deal of hysteria, partly whipped up by the government, about the prospect of violence.There wasn't any.Possibly some members are disappointed at this.
My guess is that most people in Bangkok are somewhat irritated at the inconvenience of the Red incursion but there's been no evidence of violent animosity against the Reds, indeed a surprising degree of support (i wouldn't say a majority though)
Basically there are a quite a few on this forum who were hoping for trouble and in some cases predicting it.They are looking foolish now.
Posted 2010-03-20 17:33:11
jayboy, on 2010-03-20 16:51:36, said: khunjamespittman, on 2010-03-20 09:04:43, said: What in my statement is biased. 1. we were told Bangkokians would be angry and might attack the demonstrators (I observed no anger or attacks.) 2. most of the bystanders many of whom I would expect to be Bangkokians were waving and cheering on the demonstrators. Where is the bias? Those are factual observations.
Regards,
You are right.There was a good deal of hysteria, partly whipped up by the government, about the prospect of violence.There wasn't any.Possibly some members are disappointed at this.
My guess is that most people in Bangkok are somewhat irritated at the inconvenience of the Red incursion but there's been no evidence of violent animosity against the Reds, indeed a surprising degree of support (i wouldn't say a majority though)
Basically there are a quite a few on this forum who were hoping for trouble and in some cases predicting it.They are looking foolish now.
Many people thought there would be violence. Why? Do the names Arisman and Sae Daeng ring a bell with you? Do you remember Songkran last year? Chiang Mai? The published threats?
I STILL expect trouble before this is said and done. The government did a good job of suggesting people stay off the streets AND the reds backed off their plan to mess with the skytrain and subway. If they tie things up on Monday I think i will very likely get uglier.
As for "hoping for trouble", there are certainly unstable people all over. Most of them seem to be Reds though.
Support? I watched People TV and ASTV for awhile and saw very little "support" but hey .....
As for your remarks about people bringing Thaksin into this (different unquoted post) --- hey, Thaksin and his cronies bring him into this. I just point it out.
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