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Posted 2010-05-21 02:37:51
 AGareth2, on 2010-05-20 21:31:46, said:
OK what criminal offences has he commited
You do understand that defamation laws exist in Thailand!
agareth2
you really do not need to actually commit a crime to be arrested or thrown out of a plane....
many years ago, inside a northwest airline, a man a few seat from me, muttered something about cuba....
another two passengers overheard the comment.... jokingly asked the flight attendance.... are we going to cuba first....?
the pretty flight attendance looked at them and did not respond....
about five minutes later.... two gentlemen came up to the two passengers.... and asked for their id....
the two passenger protested and said he merely repeated the question which was originated from the guy a few feet from me....
the men just asked the flight attendance to confirm who actually asked the question....
they were taken off the plane....
just mind what you say.... whether you do or do not intend to carry out what you say.... is subject to others' interpretation....
so succinctly.... watch your mouth, friends....
Posted 2010-05-21 02:45:44
wolf5370, on 2010-05-20 20:28:54, said: I'm a cockney, having been born in the only hospital in the sound of bow bells (Bancroft Rd). Seen as most white cockneys left the area in the 70's with the government's genius idea to put all the immigrants in the east end (following the major influx in the 70's of Bangladeshis that dominate the area even today) creating an instant ghetto rather than spreading the out so they could integrate, I doubt what you are saying. Most cockneys I knew or have ever met moved to the suberbs. Most of the trouble rousers from that part of the world are Essex boys with put on accents and a weied desire to be viewed as east enders (or even cockneys) - or Sussex boys trying to be Essex boys trying to be Cockneys. By the way, not every cockney came from poor backgrounds either, its just an area in London.
Bow Bells is St Mary le Bow Church in Cheapside, City of London. No Bangladeshis there, only bankers.
I think you are getting confused with Bow Church which is in the East End but nothing to do with cockneys. http://en.wikipedia..../St_Mary-le-Bow
Posted 2010-05-21 02:47:10
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11 downloadsxenomorph, on 2010-05-21 02:53:16, said: deepskyfreak, on 2010-05-21 01:47:02, said: granuaile, on 2010-05-20 21:24:23, said: stickman, on 2010-05-20 21:12:29, said: Is this the guy? Seen frequently with the red shirts and often behind the barricades.
Actually he probably didn't stick around for the ooting. When he saw soldiers not playing around with rubber bullets, he probably messed himself and beat Arisman out the door. When he gets caught though he actually deserves a worse punishment than his Thai comrades....
I'm pretty sure I know this man... didn't expect him to be that stupid. 20 years Thailand, he's gone old. If he's the man I know - he's Australian. Know his name and what he works, but won't publish it here...
Thailand - small world, indeed.
Yepp!
I've watched the video in slowmo. Looks like this guy indeed!
Seems like he haven't change his shirt between the photo and the video footage.
Ok! There we have it!
The Brittons can be releaved now. Blame the Aussies! 
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Maybe the same guy
Edited by johnson36, 2010-05-21 02:59:02.
Posted 2010-05-21 02:52:16
Phatcharanan, on 2010-05-21 01:50:37, said: And errrrrrrrr you have proof he is under the influence of something?
No. I said he is ill or under the influence. Of course, he could be of sane and sound mind and just want a fight, but I would *think* to want to fight in Thailand's battle, for free, unarmed, out numbered, out gunned, and surrounded, one would have to be a little sick in the head. But I could be wrong. Maybe he's just a hard ass or thrill seeker. Personally, to have said what he said AND be there during all of that, I think he's a loon.
Posted 2010-05-21 03:06:19
Tokay, on 2010-05-20 22:13:17, said: neverdie, on 2010-05-20 21:58:44, said: I'd like to think that most the people here would have more sense than to do that, I mean, how old are you or are you just trying to troll up some argument? Familyonthemove, on 2010-05-20 21:45:59, said: Just a sad loser who's never achieved anything. A chance for a bit of fame by
Question 2 answer- wrong I went in, however, I did not take sides and didn't throw a stick on the floor guess I must be a bit of a wimp then? If not, pipe down. My post was for those saying the guy has no balls. Try reading things in their entirety next time.
Those of you who are snitches & keyboard warriors, have fun with your witch hunt. Make sure to spend a lot of time on this guy, call every tip line you can find and show the video to the world. Keep calling the BBC and show every Thai authority you can. Then when they LOL at you because you have nothing, come back and revisit this post. In the meantime, learn a thing or two about the law, because most of you clearly have no grasp of it currently. Oh, you also may want to go back and read the news BEFORE this jack hole made his comment because the reds already said they were going to burn Central World down.
I'm amazed at the ignorance in this thread. Either you guys live here and keep your head up your arse or you don't live here and pretend you do. Everyone knew the reds made this threat, yet this is more hate pointed to this one falang than there is against the people who actually burned it down. Incredible.
I think you will find the key word in the video is "we" that makes him part of the movement and the movement have been declared terrorists. Add that to the stills on this thread and I would say legally there is a pretty strong case in any country, confessions or prior knowledge are always good news for prosecutors. But in Thailand? Oh he is proper screwed and for what? Being down with the Thai people?
He has balls alright but no brains at all.
Oh and you have yet to present any evidence to prove that he didn't burn Central down, who knows? You?
I don't care either way, this is a matter for Thai's, just thought I would add a couple of points that perhaps you have not considered?
Posted 2010-05-21 03:11:30
tatt2dude, on 2010-05-21 03:06:19, said: I think you will find the key word in the video is "we" that makes him part of the movement and the movement have been declared terrorists. Add that to the stills on this thread and I would say legally there is a pretty strong case in any country, confessions or prior knowledge are always good news for prosecutors. But in Thailand? Oh he is proper screwed and for what? Being down with the Thai people?
He has balls alright but no brains at all.
Oh and you have yet to present any evidence to prove that he didn't burn Central down, who knows? You?
I don't care either way, this is a matter for Thai's, just thought I would add a couple of points that perhaps you have not considered?
All valid points.
I'd like to think with all the cameras around, someone has more on this guy. It's not every day you see a crazed lone falang in the middle of such a mess, with the appearance of being ready to fight.
Posted 2010-05-21 03:19:04
AGareth2, on 2010-05-20 21:31:46, said: OK what criminal offences has he commited
You do understand that defamation laws exist in Thailand!
As a note,there is grounds also for possible seditous libel charges
Both would involve a custodial sentence and deportation
Just a thought ! To some of the more vocal red shirt fans here
Posted 2010-05-21 03:20:10
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lets get this sucka !
Posted 2010-05-21 03:31:04
xenomorph, on 2010-05-21 00:11:58, said: elcent, on 2010-05-21 00:09:03, said:
Ha-ha! Good one!! 
That describes a lot about the Reds. Amazing it's from Hong Kong!
Posted 2010-05-21 03:32:59
Gosh, they are a lot of people riding some mighty high horses on here.
Throwing a guy out of a plane?...For running his mouth off?...Capital punishment?...terrorist? What a fine bunch of intelligible and civilised folks we have posting here...
Tally ho and please keep them hoods on whilst witch hunting...
Posted 2010-05-21 03:47:51
TerraPosse, on 2010-05-21 03:32:59, said: Gosh, they are a lot of people riding some mighty high horses on here.
Throwing a guy out of a plane?...For running his mouth off?...Capital punishment?...terrorist? What a fine bunch of intelligible and civilised folks we have posting here...
Tally ho and please keep them hoods on whilst witch hunting...
But if some TV members views are different from yours to the punishment due for this crime ,how does that make them less civilised than you
And understand,for what he has done and of which there is conclusive evidence that he is guilty,it will make no difference if he has pictures of himself in Samet for the last 2 days
He should be jailed ! end of !
I will imagine they can think of lots of things for this boy to do in there, happy days
Posted 2010-05-21 03:59:49
Phatcharanan, on 2010-05-21 01:50:37, said: Tokay, on 2010-05-20 19:14:15, said: There is no question he is either ill or under the influence of something.
My problem is, we have zero proof of anything other than hearsay
And errrrrrrrr you have proof he is under the influence of something?
Go sleep for a while. You'll feel better.
Proof is NOT needed, whatever is posted on a witch hunt can be regarded as unquestionable fact, this is and always will be how we like to run our witch hunts on here.
Seeing that youv'e been a member since early 2009 you might of missed our unwritten rules on witch hunts, I will quote a few that relate to issues raised on this thread.
All posts should at least once have a defamatory statement about the witch hunt victim. Inclusion of personal recommendations such as death, deportation, torture, Hilton vacations are particularly welcomed and encouraged.
Defamatory posts about the victim should not be questioned or be refered to as false when quoting said post, except when the new post results in further damage to the victims character.
Any post not defamatory or defending the victims character should be disregarded even if the post could be true. Replying to said post is not recommended unless replying post discredits said post AND defames character of said poster.
Any poster repeatedly defending the victim shall become the target of hate posts commencing immediately after the second post. Hate posts should contain statements of the defending posters lack of intelligence and accusations that it is infact the victim defending himself.
The use of pictures, videos or any electronic media that can defame the victim is welcomed and encouraged. Such media will be regarded as actually evidence regardless of its origin or lack of evidence connecting the media to the victim. For example, a video of a huge male elephant mistakenly trying to mate with a smaller male elephant would undeniably prove the victim guilty of being a homo pedo.
All witch hunts will result in the victim branded as guilty regardless of any actual criminal or legal proceedings proving otherwise and will be archived for eternity.
You can receive a copy of the unwritten rules by actively posting in ten witch hunts or by using hate posts to drive a defending poster away from the witch hunt and personally persue the defending poster on any thread with more hate posts.
Posted 2010-05-21 04:03:19
mcfester, on 2010-05-21 03:59:49, said: Proof is NOT needed, whatever is posted on a witch hunt can be regarded as unquestionable fact, this is and always will be how we like to run our witch hunts on here.
Seeing that youv'e been a member since early 2009 you might of missed our unwritten rules on witch hunts, I will quote a few that relate to issues raised on this thread.
All posts should at least once have a defamatory statement about the witch hunt victim. Inclusion of personal recommendations such as death, deportation, torture, Hilton vacations are particularly welcomed and encouraged.
Defamatory posts about the victim should not be questioned or be refered to as false when quoting said post, except when the new post results in further damage to the victims character.
Any post not defamatory or defending the victims character should be disregarded even if the post could be true. Replying to said post is not recommended unless replying post discredits said post AND defames character of said poster.
Any poster repeatedly defending the victim shall become the target of hate posts commencing immediately after the second post. Hate posts should contain statements of the defending posters lack of intelligence and accusations that it is infact the victim defending himself.
The use of pictures, videos or any electronic media that can defame the victim is welcomed and encouraged. Such media will be regarded as actually evidence regardless of its origin or lack of evidence connecting the media to the victim. For example, a video of a huge male elephant mistakenly trying to mate with a smaller male elephant would undeniably prove the victim guilty of being a homo pedo.
All witch hunts will result in the victim branded as guilty regardless of any actual criminal or legal proceedings proving otherwise and will be archived for eternity.
You can receive a copy of the unwritten rules by actively posting in ten witch hunts or by using hate posts to drive a defending poster away from the witch hunt and personally persue the defending poster on any thread with more hate posts.
Thanks. I needed a laugh before tucking in for the night.
I think we could all use a good chuckle right now, seems everyone is on edge.
Posted 2010-05-21 04:11:31
Everyone saying that this is just a loony blowing his mouth off should realise that this guy has been hanging around for days with the hardcore Reds at the Sala Daeng tyre barrier... I doubt very much if this his just his view, it is more likely that he lost his temper and let out the hardcore Reds plan without thinking... He should be locked up, for his own safety among other things.. However, i guess he is searching the net at the moment to see where in the world the next protest could turn ugly and will head there next.
Posted 2010-05-21 04:17:20
viking75, on 2010-05-20 21:31:04, said: Pitbullman1, on 2010-05-20 21:24:43, said: viking75, on 2010-05-20 20:40:25, said: and you take this serious!
nice comedy value, but if you going to take it serious we have to laugh that you believe a falang can steal this much stuff.
news day slowing down is it? or Nation insist this be shown.
careful though, as thai gov might decide get all falangs out of town, barflys and all.
This is typical behaviour of a cockney (Person born within the sound of the bow bells in London UK.) Where there is trouble and a Brit is involved you can bet your bottom dollar that a stupid arrogant cockney is behind it.
He should have his passport stamped as No entry into the Kingdom of Thailand, then sent home on a wire mesh boat in shark infested waters. The idiot!
your post is as childish idiotic and racist as they get with a hope of death tagged on.
sure he is the mad one?
You know who he is now, why not confront him? going to be hundreds of threats tonight from grounded barflys who dare not say boo to the tiniest thai woman, never mind a falang guy.
He has the balls, you guys threatening and screaming on here have the flowery dresses on.
Yes, a very courageous man, throwing a stick on the ground and mouthing off to a guy with a video camera. I'm sure many of the people on here would greatly love to confront him if he could be found. I would probably stay away, I find it judicious to stay away from people stomping around threatening violence, arson and looting. I would probably just try to alert the police. They have guns. I sure as hel_l hope this guy never gets his hands on one.
Grow up, viking75.
Posted 2010-05-21 04:45:07
Maybe a poll is in order?
1. Deport him
2. Send him to a room with padded walls
3. Arrest him for threatening to burn things down (did we not hear that before somewhere)
4. Admit he got his 1500 posts of fame and close the topic
5. None of the above
Personally, I like number 2. It's hard to imagine he was privy to inside plans.
Posted 2010-05-21 05:21:45
Personal attacks and fighting has been deleted. I'm getting really fed up with it too. For the past little while we've been trying not to suspend users because its not a time to be cut off from info. However, if some decide to keep acting like 12 year olds the leniency won't last long.
Posted 2010-05-21 05:38:17
andyww, on 2010-05-21 02:24:40, said: deepskyfreak, on 2010-05-20 19:47:02, said: I'm pretty sure I know this man... didn't expect him to be that stupid. 20 years Thailand, he's gone old. If he's the man I know - he's Australian. Know his name and what he works, but won't publish it here...
Thailand - small world, indeed.
I was trying to work out why everyone assumed the guy in the video was from London, seeing as he had an obviously Aussie accent...
You must be hard of hearing. As an Aussie myself I can attest to the fact that he is definitely not speaking with an Australian accent. There's no doubt he's British.
Posted 2010-05-21 05:59:09
"This video has been removed by the user." It wasn't real news anyways!
Here's a piece of real news:
Sacrifices in Bangkok
The time has come for statesmanship from Abhisit and Thaksin
By Pasuk Phongpaichit and Chris Baker, Wall Street Journal
The violence leading up to the burning of central Bangkok on Wednesday is the worst moment in Thailand's modern history. More people killed and injured over the last six weeks than in any of the many prior incidents. More property damaged. More dismay and despair. More of the future destroyed.
This terrible week will further harden the already brittle divisions in Thai society. On one side, the antigovernment red shirts have a new pantheon of martyrs, a thousand stories about the government and army as brutal killers, and a million reasons for resentment and revenge. On the other, the government and its supporters can point to the fires and looting as proof that the red shirts were just savages all along, and don't deserve to be taken seriously or accorded any mercy. These two refrains are already gaining currency, confirming prejudices and fanning hatred.
Both sides have their stories of perfidy. Pro-government forces claim the arson shows signs of prior planning. They seize on former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's comment that a military crackdown might spark a guerrilla war as proof that he is the orchestrating hand. Pro-red sympathizers argue that the fires were deliberately set to discredit the reds.
This kind of mutual recrimination is the easy route. And a fatal one.
Those who unconditionally condemn the red shirts need to ask themselves a few questions. Why did this protest attract so many people and stretch on for so long with relatively little violence until the end? Why, as the soldiers approached, were 5,000 people willing to remain in the encampment, announcing they were ready to die?
Yes, perhaps camaraderie and a siege mentality helped keep many protesters behind the barricades until the bitter end. But one still has to ask, why do so many ordinary Thais feel so desperate about the situation that they're willing to sacrifice their lives? Why, even in the final days, were people on the roadsides cheering on the red shirts and jeering the security forces? Why are people in so many provincial towns now destroying government property?
The easy answer traded among those who oppose the red shirts is that they are stupid, uneducated and paid by Mr. Thaksin. This thinking is a way of avoiding questions about what has been happening in Thai society over the past generation, a way of plugging one's own eyes and ears. But it leads nowhere—or to another May 19, sooner or later.
Wednesday's events threw two key facts about Thailand into sharp relief. First, because the Thai economy is so integrated with the world, the country's internal conflicts are played out in the full glare of international publicity, and the economy will be badly burned too. Second, a lot of ordinary, reasonable people are very angry about what has happened to the political system. If they are not soothed by real changes, then the frustrations will keep spilling into violence of one sort or another. Thailand needs to bring its politics into line with its economy.
This could be the moment for Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to show true statesmanship. The path toward social peace at such a terrible moment requires mercy, a readiness to compromise and some steel to persuade one's own followers to show compassion.
Several recent opinion surveys have shown that the overwhelming majority of Thais believe a fair judicial system, open press and electoral democracy are the best tools for resolving social conflict. Mr. Abhisit needs to ensure that the pro-government yellow-shirt leaders responsible for the airport occupations in late 2008 when they were in opposition are subject to the same judicial accounting as the red shirts. He also needs to remove the repression on red media, and give no covert government support for yellow-shirt reprisals against the reds.
He also needs to put an early election back on the table, and remove all the conditionality that made the earlier offer unconvincing. Since it is very likely that Mr. Abhisit's Democrat Party would lose that poll, this would amount to an act of sacrifice. The alternative is hiding behind the military and invoking more repression.
<a name="U30849144185V2H">This could also be a great moment for Mr. Thaksin. The movement he helped foment has now become a raging tiger. Were he to return and ride this beast, it would probably devour him. In his heart, he probably knows that. So this is an opportune moment to get down from the tiger's back. In a Buddhist society like Thailand, renunciation of one's personal interests is very highly valued. Were he publicly to renounce any intent to recover his seized assets and return to Thailand to serve his two years in jail, that would be seen as a heroic gesture.
Many Thais have made sacrifices or had sacrifices forced upon them this week. Thailand's future hinges on whether these two men are big enough for the personal sacrifices that such an awful moment demands.
http://online.wsj.co...=wsj_india_main
Edited by misterjag, 2010-05-21 06:28:52.
Posted 2010-05-21 06:15:13
Throatwobbler, on 2010-05-20 23:19:29, said: MisterBeetle, on 2010-05-20 21:14:01, said: AGareth2, on 2010-05-20 21:11:00, said: from his eloquence sounds like a typical TEFLer
I actually did a TEFL course a few years ago, you don't see me rampaging on the streets of Bangkok.
Just saying....
I did a TEFL too. Not all Teflers are morans.
Posted 2010-05-21 06:15:54
kevkev1888, on 2010-05-20 21:40:53, said: This is the same Farang that was on the BBC a few days ago at the Red barricade.
It is INDEED him......
finally tracked down that BBC footage... (its on the BBC website, so may not play in every country)
The video is ..HERE.. He appears near the end 2 minutes in..
For those that can't play the vid, here is a transcript of exactly what is said..
BBC journalist : "As the sun set we met a protestor running for cover, a Londoner living here and helping the Red's cause."
The farang : "This could've been dealt with so easily but it's come to this just because of the arrogance and the rich people not wanting to lose face. This is the land of smiles is it ? i don't think so."
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and here are stills of him taken from the BBC video..
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as can be seen... It is the same guy (look the scarf) from the youtube video...
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Posted 2010-05-21 06:16:50
Posted 2010-05-21 06:58:15
If a farang was part of the mob that burned and looted Central World then he ought to be arrested.
Anybody recognize him?
Edited by misterjag, 2010-05-21 06:59:09.
Posted 2010-05-21 08:54:13
This topic continues here:
Briton in Red Shirt demonstration regrets video arson gibe
Full story:
http://www.thaivisa....eg-t367616.html
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