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#1 webfact

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Posted 2010-07-28 15:36:14

Missing Jewelry Case Reversed as Misunderstanding

BANGKOK: -- The special investigation chief has confirmed that stolen jewelry confiscated from a red-shirt protester did not disappear, stating that speculation that it went missing was the result of a mistake in evidence listing.

Director-general of the Department of Special Investigation, or DSI, Tharit Pengdit, said his agency along with other involved parties, including the police and the owner of the presumed missing 5 million-baht jewelry, went through the list of confiscated items and discovered that the jewelry was not actually missing, but appeared to be so due to an inaccurate inventory of items received.

Tharit said that DSI's procedure for processing all seized items is to photograph and videotape them, while people claiming to be the owner of the stuffs must sign papers of acknowledgment and reclamation.

As for progress in bringing terrorism charges against the red-shirt protesters, the DSI chief said his agency has resolved to seek indictment for the group's 26 core elements and it is preparing evidence, which it will submit to public prosecutors for their consideration in deciding whether to bring the cases to court.

Tharit said the current detention of red-shirt suspects is nearing the maximum 84 days, but explained that the period can be extended during the prosecutors' review.

He went on to say he believes the evidence his agency will present is solid enough to substantiate an indictment .

He also said the interrogation of people, businesses and companies suspected of having financed the red-shirt group's illegal protests will be complete on August 9 and the DSI will forward its findings to the Center for the Resolution of Emergency Situation.


-- Tan Network 2010-07-28



#2 animatic

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Posted 2010-07-28 15:54:03

Miraculously found!!!!
and now some low level pencil pusher will get the chopping block
to save he superiors faces...or asses.

#3 Payboy

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Posted 2010-07-28 16:03:06

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the police and the owner of the presumed missing 5 million-baht jewelry, went through the list of confiscated items and discovered that the jewelry was not actually missing, but appeared to be so due to an inaccurate inventory of items received.

Guess that settles it then. No need to summon Inspector Clouseau. ;)

#4 Piengrudee

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Posted 2010-07-28 16:44:05

Wait a minute, didn't DSI said that the item was NOT in the list. Are they telling us that it was in the list now?

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Posted 2010-07-28 17:05:47

View PostPiengrudee, on 2010-07-28 16:44:05, said:

Wait a minute, didn't DSI said that the item was NOT in the list. Are they telling us that it was in the list now?
They items were in the box, but they 'forgot' to notice them when making the list.
Or it seems the owner made enough stink, that the items were looked for again and
'found' in the boxes. Hallelujah IT'S A MIRACLE!!!!

Edited by animatic, 2010-07-28 17:06:20.


#6 Garry

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Posted 2010-07-28 17:38:05

What a farce..you honeslty have to laugh at the Keystone cops. Who'd a thought that this result would happen  :lol:

#7 RKASA

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Posted 2010-07-28 18:18:56

DavidCopperfield special -  tonight only on the DSI channel :thumbsup:

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Posted 2010-07-28 18:49:23

Sounds like they came to an out of court (under the table) agreement.

#9 RedNIvar

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Posted 2010-07-28 19:25:17

Hmmm, likely story. Someone must have lost their new BMW booking fee.

#10 Robby nz

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Posted 2010-07-28 19:52:14

Anyone notice that when the stuff was lost the owner valued it at 5 mill Baht

Yet now its found its only worth 100K Baht ?????????

#11 bunnaag

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Posted 2010-07-28 19:56:09

The hour of the clowns.

#12 TAWP

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Posted 2010-07-28 20:03:45

The value claimed was 100k before the it hit the news, than someone (owner?) claimed it was worth up to 5 million...

#13 Pib

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Posted 2010-07-28 20:07:08

Mere typo and misplacement of a decimal point.

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Posted 2010-07-28 21:32:26

View PostRobby nz, on 2010-07-28 19:52:14, said:

Anyone notice that when the stuff was lost the owner valued it at 5 mill Baht

Yet now its found its only worth 100K Baht ?????????


For sure, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story or the chance of a good earn from the complainant  :lol:

#15 webfact

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Posted 2010-07-29 06:44:01

Missing jewellery found in DSI catalogue
By The Nation

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Items of jewellery supposed to have gone missing while in the custody of the Department of Special Investigation were in fact stored there, according to director-general Tharit Phengdit - but officials and the owner had been confused by the DSI's catalogue system.

After a complaint from the Jewellery Siam Centre store that three pieces were missing, all items were recounted piece-by-piece. A duplication in the cataloguing was uncovered which had confused owner Thati Phaisalmankhong into thinking a pair of gold earrings, a gold necklace and a platinum ring had disappeared while in DSI care.

The jewellery collection was originally found in Pathum Wanaram and taken into DSI care after allegedly being stolen by red-shirt protestors camped at nearby Rajprasong intersection during the protests in May.

DSI arranged the recount involving several parties - Pathum Wan police who seized the items from the temple, military officials of the government's Centre for Resolution of Emergency Situation, and outside witnesses - following a complaint Thati lodged with the Justice Ministry two weeks ago.

Thati has denied claiming the three items- now returned to him - were worth Bt5 million, as stated in a press interview by Fuengwit Aniruththewa, a secretary to the justice minister.

The jeweller also denied having  offered a Bt300,000 reward to anyone who found the missing items.


-- The Nation 2010-07-29



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Posted 2010-07-29 08:01:57

View PostPayboy, on 2010-07-28 16:03:06, said:

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the police and the owner of the presumed missing 5 million-baht jewelry, went through the list of confiscated items and discovered that the jewelry was not actually missing, but appeared to be so due to an inaccurate inventory of items received.

Guess that settles it then. No need to summon Inspector Clouseau. ;)

Was that Inspector Chalor :-(

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Posted 2010-07-29 08:03:37

Memo to authorities:   Here's how to inventory small items like jewelry:

A.  Get a big clean table.

B.  Make sure there is more than one cop on hand/witnessing the process, as it's too easy for one person to tuck things in his pockets.

C.  Put all the items on one right side of the table.

D.  Remove one item at a time, place in middle of the table, and write down its description on paper pad - legibly if possible (a big 'IF'). (note: 10 yrs ago, I sat across from a senior Thai cop who was writing a simple police report on an ancient Thai typewriter.  It took him nearly an hour to type half of one page.  That fits with Thai schoolchildren's claim that, for them, English is an easier school subject than Thai).

E.  Photograph each item, if possible/appropriate.

F.  Place inventoried item in neat pile on left of desk, and proceed to next item from right side of desk.

G.  When done, place all items in sealed container and sign them in to secure storage place, again with witnesses.  

H.   Disregard above proceedures if mia noi needs attending to, or if golf buddies need another player toot suite.

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Posted 2010-07-29 08:43:45

So if you were a nobody, would such a mistake have remained unresolved?  This is not a small matter. It is indicative of a much bigger problem. The people responsible just got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. 555

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Posted 2010-07-29 09:16:38

View Postanimatic, on 2010-07-28 15:54:03, said:

Miraculously found!!!!
and now some low level pencil pusher will get the chopping block
to save he superiors faces...or asses.


Very True. The blame game is what Thai's are very good at. One high rank official can overrule all the truth and real facts. This is Thailand...........

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Posted 2010-07-29 10:16:39

View PostRobby, on 2010-07-28 19:52:14, said:

Anyone notice that when the stuff was lost the owner valued it at 5 mill Baht

Yet now its found its only worth 100K Baht ?????????

Yes, the jeweler admitted his mistake and also admitted it was he and not the police that had the wrong accounting.

#21 march

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Posted 2010-07-29 10:20:19

From the other jewelry thread:

View PostTAWP, on 2010-07-23 03:00:24, said:

I would rather guess it is an insurance scam in the making from the jeweller...

Looks like TAWP had it sussed correctly six days ago.

#22 IAMSOBAD

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Posted 2010-07-29 11:09:48

Always blame another...never blame yourself...the Thai way! Lie if caught. Even if caught you can run for elected office. If you lose have a fellow liar set off a bomb. What is going to happen next.

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Posted 2010-07-29 11:22:49

View Posttoybits, on 2010-07-29 08:43:45, said:

<br />So if you were a nobody, would such a mistake have remained unresolved?  This is not a small matter. It is indicative of a much bigger problem. The people responsible just got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. 555<br />
<br /><br /><br />

Fully agree with the orangutan.

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Posted 2010-07-29 11:23:56

Praise be obeonecanobe!  dam_n if they just didna turn up by theirself!  Give me strength!  Posted Image

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Posted 2010-07-29 11:25:56

Please stand by for "recovered jewellery is fake" story. ;)



 


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