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#26 katana

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Posted 2010-08-12 03:56:33

Came across something in the English press here.


Dying Briton 'killed by Thai wife for his money'
A dying British businessman was beaten to death on the orders of his ‘evil’ Thai wife so she could get her hands on his money early, police have said.

Raymond Hyde, who had throat cancer, was killed by wife Bunnag’s brother because she could not wait to inherit £200,000, his house and bar business, it was alleged.

The 68-year-old, from Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, died at his retirement home in Hua Hin, 241km (150miles) south of Bangkok, last month.

continued:

http://www.metro.co....e-for-his-money

Edited by sbk, 2010-08-12 04:14:16.
added some content


#27 sbk

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Posted 2010-08-12 04:15:00

Thanks for the translation katana as well as the update. Moving to News Clippings

#28 MAJIC

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Posted 2010-08-12 04:48:25

:(:annoyed:

Another sad Farang Husband - Thai wife - Thai lover and family involved in murder; it's always about greed...how sad, tragic and disgusting at the same time.
I hope justice will be done.



There were earlier murder cases with wife, family and her lover involved:

The murder case of Jules Odekerken - in 2003

http://www.thaivisa....en-nov-17-2003/

Dale Henry - Canadian Brutally murdered in Ranong in 2008

http://www.thaivisa....ered-in-ranong/

&

http://www.thaivisa....il-family-says/





May Mr. Raymond John Hyde RIP


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Sadly, until I spent many years in Thailand I never realised life was worth so very little,and money and wealth was valued so much.

IMHO and from my observations everything in Thailand has a price and comes down to avarice,and a desire for wealth without a thought or conscience for the rightful owner.

So nothing has a real intrinsic value. as long as you have "Face" which equals wealth it matters nothing how wealth was achieved or come by,This is why Thaksin is so revered.

One could be forgiven for thinking that this is the Norm in Thailand!

Blood money and tainted money will surely bring bad Karma to the wrong doers.

Rest In Peace Raymond.

Edited by MAJIC, 2010-08-12 05:16:14.


#29 LaoPo

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Posted 2010-08-12 05:22:01

Came across something in the English press here.


Dying Briton 'killed by Thai wife for his money'
A dying British businessman was beaten to death on the orders of his 'evil' Thai wife so she could get her hands on his money early, police have said.

Raymond Hyde, who had throat cancer, was killed by wife Bunnag's brother because she could not wait to inherit 200,000, his house and bar business, it was alleged.

The 68-year-old, from Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, died at his retirement home in Hua Hin, 241km (150miles) south of Bangkok, last month.

continued:

http://www.metro.co....e-for-his-money


I hope I'm allowed to give the murdered Gentleman (and accused ordered-murder-wife) a face....:

Attached File  Raymond Hide and wife.jpg   46.89KB   215 downloads

Fatal attraction: The last known picture of Raymond Hyde with wife Bunnag, who is accused of ordering his murder to inherit his wealth
Picture: Andrew Chant





Source: Metro.co.uk

http://www.metro.co....e-for-his-money



Personal Note:

I recall a photo* that the girl/woman who was involved in the murder on her husband Dale Henry from Canada in Ranong in 2008 (see previous link in an earlier message) made EXACTLY the same V-sign behind the head of her husband as this woman, Bunnag.
It gave me the creeps when I just noticed that. :ph34r:

A very small comfort is the idea that that woman was sentenced to life in prison, together with her accomplish murderers.

* That photo is here:

http://www.thaivisa....ost__p__1812880

Attached File  DALE HENRY and wife making V-sign 0111bcthai364big.jpg   39.15KB   148 downloads

I'm shivering...as if that sign was a kind of death-sign: two married women...both giving a V-sign and later have their husbands murdered. :(

LaoPo




#30 tominbkk

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Posted 2010-08-12 06:22:56

The murder happened while Mrs Bunnak, or Fon Hyde, 32, the wife of the deceased, was out shopping in Hua Hin market buying some items in preparation for merit-making on the upcoming Thai religious holiday of Asanha Bucha Day.


haha what a sweet, pious devoted wife. If she was the planner of this act may she rot in hel_l.

#31 jackr

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Posted 2010-08-12 06:41:21

I recall a photo* that the girl/woman who was involved in the murder on her husband Dale Henry from Canada in Ranong in 2008 (see previous link in an earlier message) made EXACTLY the same V-sign behind the head of her husband as this woman, Bunnag.
It gave me the creeps when I just noticed that.

Yep, spoke volumes to me. A complete lack of respect... a Thai g/f wouldn't be doing that to her Thai guy no matter what the age difference or her status. Looks a nasty piece of work even without seeing her eyes. The poor guy was very ill to begin with and 'she couldn't wait...'. Pack of wild animals. :bah:

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Posted 2010-08-12 06:53:23

Personal Note:

I recall a photo* that the girl/woman who was involved in the murder on her husband Dale Henry from Canada in Ranong in 2008 (see previous link in an earlier message) made EXACTLY the same V-sign behind the head of her husband as this woman, Bunnag.
It gave me the creeps when I just noticed that. :ph34r:


Why are Thai women so fond of the V sign?, what does it mean to them?
Some birds will flash the sign in every single photo...

#33 Valentine

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Posted 2010-08-12 06:55:22


I recall a photo* that the girl/woman who was involved in the murder on her husband Dale Henry from Canada in Ranong in 2008 (see previous link in an earlier message) made EXACTLY the same V-sign behind the head of her husband as this woman, Bunnag.
It gave me the creeps when I just noticed that.

Yep, spoke volumes to me. A complete lack of respect... a Thai g/f wouldn't be doing that to her Thai guy no matter what the age difference or her status. Looks a nasty piece of work even without seeing her eyes. The poor guy was very ill to begin with and 'she couldn't wait...'. Pack of wild animals. :bah:


It is nothing more than a playful gesture with no overtones whatsoever. Thais do it all the time when they know photos are being taken.

#34 LaoPo

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Posted 2010-08-12 07:07:45



I recall a photo* that the girl/woman who was involved in the murder on her husband Dale Henry from Canada in Ranong in 2008 (see previous link in an earlier message) made EXACTLY the same V-sign behind the head of her husband as this woman, Bunnag.
It gave me the creeps when I just noticed that.

Yep, spoke volumes to me. A complete lack of respect... a Thai g/f wouldn't be doing that to her Thai guy no matter what the age difference or her status. Looks a nasty piece of work even without seeing her eyes. The poor guy was very ill to begin with and 'she couldn't wait...'. Pack of wild animals. :bah:


It is nothing more than a playful gesture with no overtones whatsoever. Thais do it all the time when they know photos are being taken.


Isn't it weird that in all the years that I'm a member, I can only recall 2 photos on Thaivisa...just 2...that show 2 married Thai women who are both showing the V-sign behind the head/back of their respective husbands and both of them had their husbands murdered ?

"It is nothing more than a playful gesture...." really ?

In these murder cases it's an absurd and absolute BIZARRE coincidence...this playful gesture...

LaoPo

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Posted 2010-08-12 07:31:14

A wealthy English businessman, Raymond John Hyde, 68, from Hua Hin, was stabbed to death in a violent struggle in his bungalow during an attempted break-in and robbery on the 26th July.
His was found by his Thai wife, Fon, 32, when she came back from a shopping trip...



I read this far and easily guessed the end of the story. :ermm:



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Posted 2010-08-12 07:40:51

Raymond John Hyde


RIP

to teach her husband a lesson because he regularly berated and insulted both her and Thai people, saying they eat dirty food like animals and that they were uneducated and lowly


Nice little curve ball there.:realangry: Is it enough for a not-guilty verdict? :ermm:

At least make the perp a hero in prison. ;)

#37 geriatrickid

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Posted 2010-08-12 11:03:58

Before everyone jumps on the bandwagon to hang the accused, there are some factors that are going to have to be considered;

1. The deceased was allegedly dying of throat cancer. (Let me guess, a chronic smoker.) He is reported to have been worth a small amount of money and had a bar. One of the articles suggests the woman couldn't wait until he died. Think about the claim please. If he was sick, then he would not have had much strength to resist anything the wife wanted to do. When one is dying, the last thing one cares about is a cruddy bar. If she is as evil as some are suggesting she could have taken over the bar during his incapacitation. As for the cash payout, It's chump change

2. Why kill him in the manner reported when one could have poisoned him and everybody would have assumed it was the cancer?

3. The crime of passion aspect has to be considered in light of the claim the deceased was abusive. Mr Thanakorn testified that it all began with Mrs Bunnak telling him that she wanted someone to teach her husband a lesson because he regularly berated and insulted both her and Thai people, saying they eat dirty food like animals and that they were uneducated and lowly. This built up a deep feeling of resentment and anger in Mrs Bunnak which led to Mr Khomkrit being asked to teach him a lesson, but only as far as injuring him. The testimony is plausible and some Thais can be quite proud. A decade of this type of hectoring, combined with the difficulties of the cancer could have pushed the wife over the edge.

Maybe the deceased was a living saint and was kind to his wife. I don't know. In the absence of corroborating evidence, it is unfair to rip the accused apart. Some people can be downright awful to live with. And no I am not justifying the murder. However, there may be mitigating reasons for the event. And don't throw up your hands in righteous indignation, because you all know well the type of person that runs these types of bars and marries a 23 year old girl that is 30 years younger. I have yet to meet a foreign guy in his 50's running the typical Thai beer bar, that would be someone I would want to know. Maybe this guy was different. However, if you are going to give him the benefit of the doubt, then so too must you give the accused wife the same consideration.

#38 theoldgit

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Posted 2010-08-12 11:44:58

geriatrickid, you make some valid points and present a balanced argument, but like you I don't know what went on behind closed doors maybe Mr Hyde spoke down to his wife and maybe he didn't, unfortunately he cannot give his side of the story having been beaten with a hammer, stabbed and succumbing to his injuries in this cowardly attack.

However if he did talk down to his wife and she was that unhappy maybe she should have just walked away, taking her lover with her.

#39 Lumumba

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Posted 2010-08-12 12:12:52

Geriatrickid, she must have had a bag and the house had doors and windows from which she could have escaped from this Man.

Why did nt she pack off somewhere with her giggolo and live happily ever after?

Justifying or trying to reason the intent of murdering a human being because he was talking down on you, you must be out of your knickers.

With the reported boyfriend on the side and a blood thirsty brother, the victim might have been not so happy with his Thai family and might have led to saying a bit more than necessary.

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Posted 2010-08-12 13:00:35

Just remember that Mr Hyde's family and friends might be reading this thread before you post.

#41 Thai at Heart

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Posted 2010-08-12 14:14:45

What a dastardly act. Reading that she "wanted to teach him a lesson" for insulting Thailand makes my skin crawl. Getting your lover to kill your husband to defend your culture sort of says it all doesn't it.

Obviously, taking the moral high ground or turning the other cheek doesn't extend to Thai culture either, so better to kill someone.

As for putting a V sign above your husbands head, I have never seen a Thai woman do this to a man, let alone her husband, and my wife would never ever dare to do it to me. It is as far as I am concerned extremely disrespectful between adults in Thai culture.

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Posted 2010-08-12 14:19:36

As for the cash payout, It's chump change


8.4 million baht + a bar is chump change?

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Posted 2010-08-12 14:20:58




I recall a photo* that the girl/woman who was involved in the murder on her husband Dale Henry from Canada in Ranong in 2008 (see previous link in an earlier message) made EXACTLY the same V-sign behind the head of her husband as this woman, Bunnag.
It gave me the creeps when I just noticed that.

Yep, spoke volumes to me. A complete lack of respect... a Thai g/f wouldn't be doing that to her Thai guy no matter what the age difference or her status. Looks a nasty piece of work even without seeing her eyes. The poor guy was very ill to begin with and 'she couldn't wait...'. Pack of wild animals. :bah:


It is nothing more than a playful gesture with no overtones whatsoever. Thais do it all the time when they know photos are being taken.


Isn't it weird that in all the years that I'm a member, I can only recall 2 photos on Thaivisa...just 2...that show 2 married Thai women who are both showing the V-sign behind the head/back of their respective husbands and both of them had their husbands murdered ?

"It is nothing more than a playful gesture...." really ?

In these murder cases it's an absurd and absolute BIZARRE coincidence...this playful gesture...

LaoPo


It is *not* a playful act when it is placed behind the head.

They playful V-sign Thai girls do here is the same as Korean and Japanese girls, around their *own* face, usually close to the corner of the cheeks / mouth.
Not the same.

#44 way2muchcoffee

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Posted 2010-08-12 14:33:49

It is *not* a playful act when it is placed behind the head.

They playful V-sign Thai girls do here is the same as Korean and Japanese girls, around their *own* face, usually close to the corner of the cheeks / mouth.
Not the same.


I'm not so sure. My wife will do this (behind the head) regularly with her sister, brother, and friends when taking pictures. They will respond in kind for the next picture. They all seem to get a big laugh out of it, with never any hard feelings or aggression.

Edited by way2muchcoffee, 2010-08-12 14:35:33.


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Posted 2010-08-12 14:34:08

I just showed that photo to some of my very polite staff members without telling them anything other than he is her husband. I asked, "Is this bad" and they laughed and said that she is just joking. i think some posters are reading too much into it, but she certainly looks to be a hard case.

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Posted 2010-08-12 17:51:36

To be fair the chap that wrote the remark that you refer to has admitted it was in poor taste and had the decency to apologise, something you don't see very often on here, and I for one respect him for it.

Edited by sbk, 2010-08-13 06:37:18.
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#47 tominbkk

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Posted 2010-08-12 18:12:28

To be fair the chap that wrote the remark that you refer to has admitted it was in poor taste and had the decency to apologise, something you don't see very often on here, and I for one respect him for it.


Let's just hope that this case is solved quickly and that those who perpetrated the crime are found, tried, and convicted to the full force of the law. Hopefully Thai enforcement agencies will take the case serious and not turn a blind eye for whatever reasons there could be to do so.

Edited by sbk, 2010-08-13 06:37:33.
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Posted 2010-08-12 18:44:56

One bad taste post and the responses to it removed. Come on people, a person is dead and his family may well read this forum.

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Posted 2010-08-12 20:00:06


Came across something in the English press here.


Dying Briton 'killed by Thai wife for his money'
A dying British businessman was beaten to death on the orders of his 'evil' Thai wife so she could get her hands on his money early, police have said.

Raymond Hyde, who had throat cancer, was killed by wife Bunnag's brother because she could not wait to inherit £200,000, his house and bar business, it was alleged.

The 68-year-old, from Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, died at his retirement home in Hua Hin, 241km (150miles) south of Bangkok, last month.

continued:

http://www.metro.co....e-for-his-money


I hope I'm allowed to give the murdered Gentleman (and accused ordered-murder-wife) a face....:

Attached File  Raymond Hide and wife.jpg   46.89KB   215 downloads

Fatal attraction: The last known picture of Raymond Hyde with wife Bunnag, who is accused of ordering his murder to inherit his wealth
Picture: Andrew Chant





Source: Metro.co.uk

http://www.metro.co....e-for-his-money



Personal Note:

I recall a photo* that the girl/woman who was involved in the murder on her husband Dale Henry from Canada in Ranong in 2008 (see previous link in an earlier message) made EXACTLY the same V-sign behind the head of her husband as this woman, Bunnag.
It gave me the creeps when I just noticed that. :ph34r:

A very small comfort is the idea that that woman was sentenced to life in prison, together with her accomplish murderers.

* That photo is here:

http://www.thaivisa....ost__p__1812880

Attached File  DALE HENRY and wife making V-sign 0111bcthai364big.jpg   39.15KB   148 downloads

I'm shivering...as if that sign was a kind of death-sign: two married women...both giving a V-sign and later have their husbands murdered. :(

LaoPo




Winston Churchills Victory Sign,

truly Bizarre!

Edited by MAJIC, 2010-08-12 20:00:51.


#50 MAJIC

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Posted 2010-08-12 20:29:04

Before everyone jumps on the bandwagon to hang the accused, there are some factors that are going to have to be considered;

1. The deceased was allegedly dying of throat cancer. (Let me guess, a chronic smoker.) He is reported to have been worth a small amount of money and had a bar. One of the articles suggests the woman couldn't wait until he died. Think about the claim please. If he was sick, then he would not have had much strength to resist anything the wife wanted to do. When one is dying, the last thing one cares about is a cruddy bar. If she is as evil as some are suggesting she could have taken over the bar during his incapacitation. As for the cash payout, It's chump change

2. Why kill him in the manner reported when one could have poisoned him and everybody would have assumed it was the cancer?

3. The crime of passion aspect has to be considered in light of the claim the deceased was abusive. Mr Thanakorn testified that it all began with Mrs Bunnak telling him that she wanted someone to teach her husband a lesson because he regularly berated and insulted both her and Thai people, saying they eat dirty food like animals and that they were uneducated and lowly. This built up a deep feeling of resentment and anger in Mrs Bunnak which led to Mr Khomkrit being asked to teach him a lesson, but only as far as injuring him. The testimony is plausible and some Thais can be quite proud. A decade of this type of hectoring, combined with the difficulties of the cancer could have pushed the wife over the edge.

Maybe the deceased was a living saint and was kind to his wife. I don't know. In the absence of corroborating evidence, it is unfair to rip the accused apart. Some people can be downright awful to live with. And no I am not justifying the murder. However, there may be mitigating reasons for the event. And don't throw up your hands in righteous indignation, because you all know well the type of person that runs these types of bars and marries a 23 year old girl that is 30 years younger. I have yet to meet a foreign guy in his 50's running the typical Thai beer bar, that would be someone I would want to know. Maybe this guy was different. However, if you are going to give him the benefit of the doubt, then so too must you give the accused wife the same consideration.


Well, IMO I dont think giving the accused wife consideration,would be appropiate,considering the initial Post Quoted:"33 year old lover lek"

Had she been a decent woman she could have at least waited out his terminal illness,before having a boyfriend on the scene.





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