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Posted 2005-07-07 20:47:50
We've been having a bit of fun in another part of Thaivisa, posting on different types of movies.
I thought we could continue here, if its OK with the mods, switching to Gay movies.
What are your favorite Gay movies?
I'll start with two I have seen:
The remake of the Italian/French film "La Cage aux Folles" with Robin Williams, Gene Hackman and Nathen Lane - The Bircage(1996) which was brilliant, IMHO.
Boys in the Band(1970) which was hilarious, also IMHO.
Posted 2005-07-07 21:16:17
Lawrence of Arabia... lol... u know what I mean...
was he really a gay???
Edited by majush, 2005-07-07 21:19:06.
Posted 2005-07-07 21:58:13
Blimey! How long have you got?
Happy Together - Tony Leung & Leslie Cheung
Beautiful Thing - Scott Neal & Glen Berry
Broken Hearts Club - Dean Cain (yum!) and others
East Palace West Palace
Latter Days - Steven Sandvoss, Joe Gordon-Levitt et al.
The Talented Mister Ripley with the lovely lovely Matt Damon
Posted 2005-07-08 00:11:01
Most Emmanuelle movies have great lesbian scenes. The best ones for gay scenes are Emmanuelles 1 and 2 and Black Emmanuelle (starring Laura Gemser).
David Hamilton's films - Bilitis, Summer in St Tropez, ...lots of girls in nud_e budding adolescence - finding that love can be found femme 2 femme.
Believe it or not , lesbians are gay too !
Posted 2005-07-08 00:19:29
No - lesbians are not gay - they're lesbians. That's what they keep telling us.
Posted 2005-07-08 08:26:21
My rating on the "bird cage films" both the English version and the french versions is: Amusing
"In and Out" with Kevin Kline and that other hunk (former Hawaii private dick on T.V., Tom Selleck (not a pun): Hilarious
Posted 2005-07-08 10:28:50
yes, you're right Endure. Gay films...ok
'Naked Civil Servant'
'Interview With the Vampire'
Agree about Birdcage -..... 'Agador Spartacus'
I recall sitting in the Tate Gallery watching David Hockney's 'A Bigger Splash'. During one of the buggery scenes, an old East End lady sitting in the rear chirped up....
"Ere, I thought this was supposed to be about paintin' "
Edited by The_Moog, 2005-07-08 10:29:24.
Posted 2005-07-08 11:25:39
Here are a few of my picks:
-- Gods and Monsters
-- Food of Love
-- Maurice (Merchant Ivory)
-- My Own Private Idaho
-- Wilde: Jude Law is almost as beautiful as Lord Alfred Douglas was, if you like that type...
-- a really good documentary on gay themes in cinema: The Celluloid Closet
-- and I recently saw a really good low-budget movie made exclusively for SHOWTIME in the US, that probably will not get released on DVD, which is a pity since it was very good: Mudge Boy. Worth searching out.
Posted 2005-07-08 16:51:01
Some Asian gay films that I've liked include:
Okoge (1992, about the romantic tension between a fag-hag and the gay man she's obsessed with) The version I've seen had English subtitles.
Gohatto (a recent samurai drama with a twist- it celebrates the same-sex interest which historically did often develop between samurai and their squires and was honored in society and in the literature of the pre-Edo eras) Don't know if it's available in English.
Dousoukai (a TV drama from the mid-90s; its first 6-7 episodes are a fairly realistic depiction of the complicated private lives of various straight, bi-, and gay characters as they interact in contemporary Tokyo; includes one of the members of the Tokyu band (before he bloated up) and one of the most accurately bleak depictions of gay bars in Japan.) Don't know if it's available in English.
There's another very realistic and sad movie in which two young Japanese guys who are both working as moneyboys (and are not aware of this about each other) slowly go through the romantic motions with each other- only suddenly to meet in the hotel room of a middle-aged office worker who has hired them both to have sex with each other. But I don't remember the name of this one and I don't know if it's available in English.
The Black Lizard (Mishima adapted a very silly 60s James Bond style thriller set in Japan which was VERY camp and strange. It included a cameo of him as a nearly nud_e standing body (this was in his muscle phase, somewhere between his queer stage and his conservative-military-married-seppuku stage). Worth seeing if you have a chance; nice Bach selections in the soundtrack.) The version I saw had English subtitles.
From the Philippines, I don't think there are many gay movies easy to find, but one that everybody interested in gay Asia should probably see is:
Midnight Dancer (a realistic, ultimately depressing film about the lives of 3 brothers who work together as dancers in a gogo bar to help support their mother and other family members. Viewed in one way, this is a story about the whole bar scene from the bar worker's point of view- and no, you don't see that many foreigners in it. There's even one rich hi-so Filipino who works out an "arrangement" with one of the brothers who is also married (and whose wife is respectful and deferential towards him).) The version I saw had subtitles.
Chinese films have been interesting for awhile, including recently screened Seventeen (about *gasp*, *shock*, *horror*, a 17-yo young man looking to find his first boyfriend and get laid), and the above-mentioned Happy Together. A bit further back and you get Farewell, My Concubine, which is kind of a gay film, and The Wedding Banquet, which is kind of Chinese.
But what about
I mean, I've seen those silly volleyball films and the one about the boxer.
But are there any films in Thai gay cinema which have gay characters who HAVE boyfriends (and even appear on the screen with them), who DON'T want to become transsexuals or transvestites, and who possibly even work in normal jobs?
One example is Tropical Malady, which I found to be an excellent and realistic film during the first half. I just don't think the surreal and unconvincing mythic "conclusion" fit in with it.
Any *other* gay Thai movies?
Edited by Ijustwannateach, 2005-07-08 16:54:17.
Posted 2005-07-08 18:41:57
Was "Performance" with Mick Jaggar and James Fox a Gay movie?
Posted 2005-07-08 19:08:47
Not that I know of, anyway. Trying to look at it in a positive light, I guess laughing at something could sometimes the first step to acknowledgement - at least if the laughter continues in the direction of 'with' instead of 'at'.
Posted 2005-07-21 00:48:52
The best one was the one with me, Paris Hilton, the guy with a 14" ding-dong, and the kitty tickler toy...oh sorry guess that one is not in wide release yet.
Edited by slapdashkitty, 2005-07-21 00:53:43.
Posted 2005-07-21 10:42:44
La Cage aux Folles( thought the american version was crap) or savage nights (la nuit au savage?)
Posted 2005-08-04 01:54:22
Oscar nominee " My beautiful laundrette" is perhaps the best.
Also " A home at the end of the world" starring Collin Farrel, the DVD and VCD's are available in Thailand.
Posted 2005-08-20 10:10:42
I enjoyed a lot of the movies talked about here, but one i have not seen talked about is
ANGELS IN AMERICA, I found that one to be very intertaining.
Edited by sawatdee29, 2005-08-20 10:14:33.
Posted 2005-08-20 18:36:50
From my era Sunday Bloody Sunday at least it was the first UK gay screen kiss !
Bad Education by Almodovar a real story without being token gay.
Krampack Not a big screen film but does sort of bring back the memories of youth !
Posted 2005-08-21 00:09:05
I think there can be no doubt that BEAUTIFUL THING is the most wonderful and sensual movie..... though "Private Idaho" is not bad too..... and there was a HongKong movie some years ago, very good and sensual too.... but forgot the name.... 2 chinese guys fighting the hassle and bassle of HK......
la Cage aux Folles ? you guys must be kidding....that was TRASH
Posted 2005-08-21 19:18:28
Just my two pennies worth here, the American remake of La Cage Aux Folles was utter CRAP and that's putting it mildly!
The French version was excellent and hilarious too!
Posted 2005-08-21 19:26:23
Here's a few that I rate as good Gay/Lesbian movies:
1) A home at the end of the world - Colin Farrell
2) Boys Don't Cry - ???
3) Desert Hearts
Posted 2005-08-23 21:37:57
When i was 16 I went to see the first Star Wars with my fellow seascouts,
I got carried away by the then gorgeous Mark Hamill and came in my shorts,
does that qualify as gay movie?
Posted 2005-08-29 19:51:31
Also Billy Elliot, not really gay theme but I think it has some gay issues he he.
Posted 2005-08-29 20:26:16
Yes, the french version was so funny, the re-make was barely worth the cost of the electricity to watch.
Speaking of Thai movies, iron ladies was good fun, but there are also some good lesbian movies for sake on Sukhumvit - so people say, but sadly not much character development.
Posted 2005-08-29 23:01:18
ok maybe movies i ment are not the best , but i like
Edited by BambinA, 2005-08-29 23:02:59.
Posted 2005-08-30 17:01:57
1) Maurice - because I wanted to shag the gardener !
2) The Pillow Book - because you see a lot of Ewan McGregors penis and I want to shag him.
3) Total Eclipse - because you see Leonardo Dicaprio do gay stuff and I want to shag him.
Definate them to my favs !
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