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#326 lannarebirth

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Posted 2011-12-24 23:03:30

I'm a little late to this topic of "Thai Catholic School Teacher Caught Caning Students". I didn't read the OP or any of the intravening posts. The title did remind of something my Dad said once. I came home one day and was complaining about how the priest had been whacking my ass with a yardstick. My father said "well, I can't be there to do it all the time, now can I?

Edited by lannarebirth, 2011-12-24 23:04:12.


#327 animatic

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Posted 2011-12-24 23:34:28

View PostCanada, on 2010-08-31 12:09:49, said:

This teacher needs to be caned, publicly.
WTF this is an ART teacher...
where does he imaging he deserves the authority to do this.

He needs to be caned by the Malaysians or Singaporeans in public.
They do it very well by most reports.
Let's see if the sadist likes being a masochist too.

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Posted 2011-12-25 01:22:47

View Postanimatic, on 2011-12-24 23:34:28, said:

View PostCanada, on 2010-08-31 12:09:49, said:

This teacher needs to be caned, publicly.
WTF this is an ART teacher...
where does he imaging he deserves the authority to do this.

He needs to be caned by the Malaysians or Singaporeans in public.
They do it very well by most reports.
Let's see if the sadist likes being a masochist too.
Thai parents is OK with those punishment from the teacher. Same them from doing it themselves.

#329 Roadman

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Posted 2011-12-25 04:03:31

View Postlannarebirth, on 2011-12-24 23:03:30, said:

I'm a little late to this topic of "Thai Catholic School Teacher Caught Caning Students". I didn't read the OP or any of the intravening posts. The title did remind of something my Dad said once. I came home one day and was complaining about how the priest had been whacking my ass with a yardstick. My father said "well, I can't be there to do it all the time, now can I?

That is what my father would have said also. And I agree with him. Young adolescent males need stronger and enforced boundaries than other sectors of our society.
I went to catholic schools up to primary level and state secondary schools. I was caned often at all schools because I was a right little a-hole. Of all the times I was caned, apart from one, I was deserving of the punishment. At all those deserved times it was carried out with the same precision as what is displayed in the OP video. It does smart on the arse for a while but by the time I got to secondary school, class or group canings such as this videoed one were treated with the same bravo and fellow student humour as this one is. I have no problem with the punishment (if it is for a justified offence) as the teacher is in control and carrying out the punishment with precision targeting to the bum. I would have a problem thou if the students were a lot younger boys or female of any age.

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Posted 2011-12-25 04:58:58

There were two types of teacher at my school those that you could p*ss all over and those that we knew would beat the sh*t out of us if we so much as farted in class.............which ones do you think had the well behaved class and got respect??

Edited by travelmann, 2011-12-25 05:02:21.


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Posted 2011-12-25 05:01:30

Whats laughable is how Thais are  in uproar about this but when they want to they will kill you for losing face over something stupid.............well according to TV anyway.

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Posted 2011-12-25 05:53:16

disturbing video.
my father's reflections from when he was a young teacher, who worked in working class schools in nottingham and north london in the 60's, he always had to be the "hard bustard" he was of the same belief, as his contemporarys that were a new breed who did not support corporal punishment.

my father, as the physical education master developed alternative methods to the cane, he always gave the offending students, extra duties at lunch time or after school, cleaning gym equipment, painting and repairing damaged items around the school, marking the sports fields, cleaning the assembly hall.

many of these boys, would later play in a football team he formed and played in, for the lads who had left school but still wanted to play.

he always said, that most of the offenders were the sort of children, who would be following their fathers into mannual work, in the pits or the factories/building sites.

as i went to school in australia, caning was still used only by the principal but most commonly, by the vice principal, i had the cane a few times in primary school, it was part of the right of passage for most of my friends, it never did me any harm, it just made me a little bit more cunning.

at high school, we viewed being caned as something so "uncool", only the real hooligans got that.

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Posted 2011-12-25 07:31:24

If anyone would like the Thai law that prohibits corporal punishment, pm me. I have it in Thai and in English.

Last week at my school, I counted 34 canning marks on her arms.

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Posted 2011-12-25 08:12:21

Before getting your knickers in a knot over this thread, do remember it is an old thread.  

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Posted 2011-12-25 09:12:44

View Posttragickingdom, on 2010-08-31 13:22:49, said:


Rich spoiled kids mostly. I would have caned them too.



Sorry you missed out.

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Posted 2011-12-25 09:27:16

View PostSomtamnication, on 2011-12-25 07:31:24, said:

If anyone would like the Thai law that prohibits corporal punishment, pm me. I have it in Thai and in English.

Last week at my school, I counted 34 canning marks on her arms.

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Did you report the teacher? It looks like pretty severe physical abuse to me. Do you care to name the school?

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Posted 2011-12-25 22:44:33

View Posttravelmann, on 2011-12-25 05:01:30, said:

Whats laughable is how Thais are  in uproar about this but when they want to they will kill you for losing face over something stupid.............well according to TV anyway.
Where do you think Thais learn that 'the more powerful and violent people' get their way?

This just teaches them that violence is the only way to earn respect and control others. We can see how well THAT lesson of the devil is learned here.

Edited by animatic, 2011-12-25 22:44:50.


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Posted 2011-12-26 10:03:17

View PostAleG, on 2010-08-31 15:23:13, said:

Ah yes, teach children that violence is the way to solve conflicts, disputes and assert authority. I don't see how that could lead to any problems later on, no?   :ermm:

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Posted 2011-12-26 14:33:07

View Postdasy, on 2010-08-31 13:19:35, said:

Amazing world we live in...although it worked for me when I was young, I even listened sometimes after a good spank. Never bothered me though, I knew I deserved it ....till I was strong enough to spank back.

Yeah, it certainly worked as a deterrent to me. I think the most I ever got in 1 session was 4 strokes. Didn't die from it, or need medical/psychiatric help... but those bruises on me arse were something to behold.

If kids are out of line a caning works wonders. But in my school such canings had to be recorded: reason, number of lashes and so-on. I kinda like corporal punishment, kids are naughty sometimes and don't need some psycho analist to interview them... just a good caning and it's done with.

I don't know what these boys did wrong, but I know when I got caned I was guilty every time!

It is disturbing when a teacher appears to relish handing out the canings though, doesn't it.

Not PC I know, but I don't really mind it all too much.

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Posted 2011-12-26 17:45:08

View Postphiphidon, on 2011-12-24 22:54:47, said:

View PostHakuchi, on 2010-08-31 12:56:35, said:

View PostBuchholz, on 2010-08-31 12:43:18, said:

A good candidate to be evaluated for -

Sadistic personality disorder is:

A] A pervasive pattern of cruel, demeaning, and aggressive behavior, beginning by early adulthood, as indicated by the repeated occurrence of at least four of the following:

   1. has used physical cruelty or violence for the purpose of establishing dominance in a relationship (not merely to achieve some non-interpersonal goal, such as striking someone in order to rob him/her).
   2. humiliates or demeans people in the presence of others.
   3. has treated or disciplined someone under his/her control unusually harshly.
   4. is amused by, or takes pleasure in, the psychological or physical suffering of others (including animals).
   5. has lied for the purpose of harming or inflicting pain on others (not merely to achieve some other goal).
   6. gets other people to do what he/she wants by frightening them (through intimidation or even terror).
   7. restricts the autonomy of people with whom he or she has a close relationship, e.g., will not let spouse leave the house unaccompanied or permit teenage daughter to attend social functions.
   8. is fascinated by violence, weapons, injury, or torture.

B] The behavior in A has not been directed toward only one person (e.g., spouse, one child) and has not been solely for the purpose of sexual arousal (as in sexual sadism).


would that include "Hang them high" posters. and various other comments like these that poke fun on foreigners in Thai jail?
specially if i look at point 4 or 8.

Or even Thais in Thai jails for example, Red shirts eh Buchholz?

Not sure what your far stretching reach has to do with this thread on child abuse, but there's probably more than a few Red Shirts that share their tendencies with the perpetrator.

#341 pastitche

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Posted 2011-12-26 22:16:44

View PostSAffer, on 2011-12-26 14:33:07, said:

View Postdasy, on 2010-08-31 13:19:35, said:

Amazing world we live in...although it worked for me when I was young, I even listened sometimes after a good spank. Never bothered me though, I knew I deserved it ....till I was strong enough to spank back.

Yeah, it certainly worked as a deterrent to me. I think the most I ever got in 1 session was 4 strokes. Didn't die from it, or need medical/psychiatric help... but those bruises on me arse were something to behold.

If kids are out of line a caning works wonders. But in my school such canings had to be recorded: reason, number of lashes and so-on. I kinda like corporal punishment, kids are naughty sometimes and don't need some psycho analist to interview them... just a good caning and it's done with.

I don't know what these boys did wrong, but I know when I got caned I was guilty every time!

It is disturbing when a teacher appears to relish handing out the canings though, doesn't it.

Not PC I know, but I don't really mind it all too much.

I really hope you meant psychoanalyst......and not psycho analist

#342 Somtamnication

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Posted 2011-12-27 06:29:58

Big difference between 1-5 cannings, and 6+++++++++++.
Also, the issue that this thread is old, thereby irrelevant, is ridiculous.

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Posted 2011-12-27 16:22:39

This isn't NOTHING compared to the teachers in Suphanburi. They hits the kids up and down, black and blue. No one cares because I guess it just builds character.

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Posted 2011-12-29 22:32:11

View Postwjhall, on 2010-08-31 13:28:42, said:

Have people forgotten that until 30 odd years ago caning was common place in English schools and was completely acceptable.  In my view caning , properly carried out, never did anyone any harm. I was caned myself on several occasions and believe it taught me the right lesson. The threat of the cane often acted as  a deterrent without it being needed to be carried out.  Since corporal punishment was banned in English schools discipline has become a major problem as teachers have few ways to punish pupils and even have to ask parents permission before giving a detention.


Some of the yobs in our societies today would have benefited from a good caning in their youth!!!

total agreement !

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Posted 2011-12-30 02:16:17

It doesn't build character, it destroys self esteem and teaches kids that if you have power over somebody else, be it by size or age, you have a right to abuse them how and when you see fit.  It seems there are lots of older gentlemen on this board reminiscing back to the olden days of the joys they experienced being beaten by their headmaster.  I had a fourth grade teacher who would whack us on the back of the head with his school ring if we were speaking out of turn, it would leave a welt for a couple days (but wasn't something parents could see).  If I had a chance to see him again today, even though he is in his seventies by now, I would confront him with it and ask if he would like a blow to his head as a return to the favor.  When I was 9 years old we took it in stride, but only because he had the power over us to do such a thing.  Sick, really sick.

It is possible to gain respect from young people without beating them with a stick.  I have spent my life in education and know it is absolutely possible.  By appealing to their common sense, training them about actions and consequences, and setting punishments that don't involve physical abuse but are in many ways much more effective, you can avoid all of this.  Alas, though, it takes time, intelligence, and patience to use these methods, none of which our teachers of yore in the West or apparently the teachers in thailand are evolved enough to comprehend or believe in.  

Please do not put those sick sadistic fukcs on pedestals.  They cause nothing but pain and breed nothing but an attitude that violence is the quickest solution to all of your problems.  Anyone who feels that punishing boys or girls like what was shown in that video probably also gets off on watching Auswitch videos.

Edited by tominbkk, 2011-12-30 02:18:50.




 


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