Posted 2010-09-04 11:41:07
A couple of months back I took a drive to Bang Saray to see what everybody was talking about - I kept seeing adverts for new housing estates that looked like the builders had finally started to realise that a home is more than a concrete block with a bit of teak in it and thought that the village itself would be worth a look.
However, I think I may have missed the point somewhere. When I ask people "What is Bang Saray like" the standard response is very nice, but quiet. So I went there thinking beachfront with restaurants and maybe a bar or two but struggled to find even that.
Can someone explain the layout of Bang Saray? I drove through the big archway up on Sukhumvit and then down through the town bit and right onto the beach front, is there any more to it?
Or are there areas around Bang Saray that are the "very nice" bits and I'm missing them? Before I get shot down in flames for asking a simple question all I'm trying to do is to get a better feel for the area surrounding Pattaya, I went up to Silverlake two days ago and really enjoyed it, the road that takes you up there could be in Europe for stretches it's so well maintained.
Tom.
Posted 2010-09-04 13:22:11
Not a lot!
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flyingfox
Posted 2010-09-04 15:00:26
Compared to just 2 years ago, BS is rising from the ground in a big way. There's a new and beautiful village opp. the beach and lots more coming. There are a few foreign restaurants and pubs (Chez Jerome, Abbey Road, etc.). If I had a car, I would live there.
Posted 2010-09-04 16:19:51
 flyingfox, on 2010-09-04 15:00:26, said:
Compared to just 2 years ago, BS is rising from the ground in a big way. There's a new and beautiful village opp. the beach and lots more coming. There are a few foreign restaurants and pubs (Chez Jerome, Abbey Road, etc.). If I had a car, I would live there.
Two correct replies and both succint - Not a lot and you need a car.
If it had everything and you did not need a car it would be another Pattaya.
And there aint room for 2 of them on the same bit of coast with the current economic climate. 
What I can gather about construction work on these masses of housing / condo developments are that they are purely speculative investments ???
I have a good Thai friend selling units at one particular one in BS ( new acrnonym on T.V.) and she told me that every month the price of the "tiny" 25 square metre apartments goes up 20,000 baht. Forever in the hope that more and more people will keep buying into cardboard models and pie in the sky computer generated cartoons.
People who feel they have missed the boat then get told that they can buy a unit that has already been "sold' previously .
SOOOO if you bought in at 750,000 baht per unit 6 months ago you can now sell it on at the new going rate of 870,000. This goes on and for years and slowly but surely the builders take for ever to actually build the place. Making profits on sales / re-sales and commission.....sometimes abandoning the project totally when interest dries up or actually make a half arsed finish to the building before moving onto their next project...........Now before you shoot me in flames...I am the ultimate cycnic. 
And I give not a hoot if you have already bought into one of these schemes. I do not care what other people do with their money or how they invest it.
If any one has the time to go round all the Sois on Pratamnak Hill and have a real close look round the jungle clad lanes - You will see the many "incomplete" building foundations poking up from the ground.
Jomtien and Na Jomtien also have their share of these as well. I won't mention names it will only start a "Bun fight in a PARK". 
BS already has its own concrete jungle clad abandonded project 100 yards back from the beach if you care to venture there..... 
Edited by lonewolf99, 2010-09-04 16:24:35.
Posted 2010-09-04 16:26:19
You should have made a left, instead of a right! I really dont know much about the place, but lived there 25 years ago, seems to have changed a bit since then. I think most of the shops and such are to the left, before you drive into the sea. Will check it out for myself sometime.
Posted 2010-09-04 16:30:32
lonewolf99, on 2010-09-04 16:19:51, said:
flyingfox, on 2010-09-04 15:00:26, said:
Compared to just 2 years ago, BS is rising from the ground in a big way. There's a new and beautiful village opp. the beach and lots more coming. There are a few foreign restaurants and pubs (Chez Jerome, Abbey Road, etc.). If I had a car, I would live there.
Two correct replies and both succint - Not a lot and you need a car.
If it had everything and you did not need a car it would be another Pattaya.
And there aint room for 2 of them on the same bit of coast with the current economic climate.
What I can gather about construction work on these masses of housing / condo developments are that they are purely speculative investments ???
I have a good Thai friend selling units at one particular one in BS ( new acrnonym on T.V.) and she told me that every month the price of the "tiny" 25 square metre apartments goes up 20,000 baht. Forever in the hope that more and more people will keep buying into cardboard models and pie in the sky computer generated cartoons.
People who feel they have missed the boat then get told that they can buy a unit that has already been "sold' previously .
SOOOO if you bought in at 750,000 baht per unit 6 months ago you can now sell it on at the new going rate of 870,000. This goes on and for years and slowly but surely the builders take for ever to actually build the place. Making profits on sales / re-sales and commission.....sometimes abandoning the project totally when interest dries up or actually make a half arsed finish to the building before moving onto their next project...........Now before you shoot me in flames...I am the ultimate cycnic.
And I give not a hoot if you have already bought into one of these schemes. I do not care what other people do with their money or how they invest it.
If any one has the time to go round all the Sois on Pratamnak Hill and have a real close look round the jungle clad lanes - You will see the many "incomplete" building foundations poking up from the ground.
Jomtien and Na Jomtien also have their share of these as well. I won't metion names it will only start a "Bun fight in a PARK".
BS already has its own concrete jungle clad abandonded project 100 yards back from the beach if you care to venture there.....
So maybe the the building projects that are going up there aren't as nice as the pictures i've seen... doh! 
Lol, I keep trying to put off moving to Phuket to get some quality surroundings into my life, but it seems like it's becoming inevitable. However, one last try... I've heard that Bang Saray has a "nice beach". Is this nice in the normal sense of the word, or nice compared to Pattya beach? I drove down through the town and hit some pretty hefty roadworks just before I would have ended up driving into the sea, there I turned right and drove along a beach. Is that the Bang Saray beach that people talk about?
Tom.
Posted 2010-09-04 17:54:39
tomster, on 2010-09-04 16:30:32, said:
So maybe the the building projects that are going up there aren't as nice as the pictures i've seen... doh!
Lol, I keep trying to put off moving to Phuket to get some quality surroundings into my life, but it seems like it's becoming inevitable. However, one last try... I've heard that Bang Saray has a "nice beach". Is this nice in the normal sense of the word, or nice compared to Pattya beach? I drove down through the town and hit some pretty hefty roadworks just before I would have ended up driving into the sea, there I turned right and drove along a beach. Is that the Bang Saray beach that people talk about?
Tom.
Yes
Posted 2010-09-04 21:49:55
there is also beach on the left, but there might not be any beach access there now, I lived on that beach before. Its nice, but very shallow. The area after the beach belongs to the army, so in that way, its not crowded. Walk out on the pier and take a look. You wont see anything from sitting in your car, in the middle of a construction zone. Just take a ride an check it out.
Posted 2012-05-11 14:58:21
if you are thai and have money bang say is the place to invest
i have been saying this for last 6 years
Posted 2012-05-11 15:03:47
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Posted 2012-05-11 15:21:26
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the highlight is to sit on a carpet and eat crabs at lunchtime.
Posted 2012-05-11 19:24:01
flyingfox, on 2010-09-04 15:00:26, said:
Compared to just 2 years ago, BS is rising from the ground in a big way. There's a new and beautiful village opp. the beach and lots more coming. There are a few foreign restaurants and pubs (Chez Jerome, Abbey Road, etc.). If I had a car, I would live there.
How is the water, electricity, sewage, and trash services? Can one get high-speed steady internet connections and how is the 3G coverage in the area? Are there any "farang" supermarkets besides 7 and Family...I thought not. When these and lots of other services get up to Pattaya levels get back to me.
Posted 2012-05-11 19:48:13
BS is a very nice place to go for sea food on weekdays and then go back to "civilization" after wards, lol.
I see a few expats around when we go there but its not for me, tooooo quiet.
Posted 2012-05-11 19:49:54
I live in bang saray, the new water park will be a welcome addition, there are new housing estates being built all the time now, they have a decent beach with a few places to eat on there. If I eat local it will be seafood preecha probably or maybe a short drive to the glass house. I havent really drank local here, the glass house is probably the only place i would go for just a drink.
Water seems fine here had no problems with it in a year, electricty I am not sure if its my village as they are still building or if its local but had 1 long outage of a few hours before, sometimes in the morning will get a 5-10 outage maybe once a fortnight. Internet is probably ToT, not too bad, had no problems with it apart from the outages the other week and it gets a bit slow at around 3-7pm. 3G I am on DTAC not sure if I get 3g here to be honest I never check, can get edge with AIS thats pretty stable. Cloest thing I know to farang supermarkets is foodmart in jomtien.
Posted 2012-05-11 21:08:39
JusticeFT96, on 2012-05-11 19:49:54, said:
I live in bang saray, the new water park will be a welcome addition, there are new housing estates being built all the time now, they have a decent beach with a few places to eat on there. If I eat local it will be seafood preecha probably or maybe a short drive to the glass house. I havent really drank local here, the glass house is probably the only place i would go for just a drink.
Water seems fine here had no problems with it in a year, electricty I am not sure if its my village as they are still building or if its local but had 1 long outage of a few hours before, sometimes in the morning will get a 5-10 outage maybe once a fortnight. Internet is probably ToT, not too bad, had no problems with it apart from the outages the other week and it gets a bit slow at around 3-7pm. 3G I am on DTAC not sure if I get 3g here to be honest I never check, can get edge with AIS thats pretty stable. Cloest thing I know to farang supermarkets is foodmart in jomtien.
Preecha and the glass house are in Ban Amphur, also a Tesco express in Ban amphur and a bigger Tesco in Satthahip which is much closer to Bang Saray than Foodmart!!
Posted 2012-05-11 21:18:17
Markland, on 2012-05-11 14:58:21, said:
if you are thai and have money bang say is the place to invest
i have been saying this for last 6 years
...and nothing has happened yet ,nor will it for another 6000 years
Posted 2012-05-12 08:40:56
It is good that BS is becoming an alternative to a failed development scheme (aka. Pattaya-Jomtien), but it is sad that so many people, not just here on this forum, are looking south to get away from what the real estate developers think is "paradise." BS will also be ruined in the future. How I wish we could go back to the time before all of these real estate hounds arrived  Where to go next? I wish I knew.
Posted 2012-05-12 09:02:12
I tried to but in BS for 3 years starting about 6 years ago. Every time I looked at some land, the price would jump on my next visit over here. It became just too expensive, so I built on the Darkside in Pattaya & travel to BS almost weekly to eat & drink on the beach mats, & swim in the clean waters, one of life's little luxuries.
It will become another concrete jungle when Pattaya turns into a ghetto of unmaintained & derelect building & houses. I hope I never see this happen but I think it isn't too far away.
Posted 2012-05-12 10:08:43
Awohalitsiktoli, on 2012-05-12 08:40:56, said:
It is good that BS is becoming an alternative to a failed development scheme (aka. Pattaya-Jomtien), but it is sad that so many people, not just here on this forum, are looking south to get away from what the real estate developers think is "paradise." BS will also be ruined in the future. How I wish we could go back to the time before all of these real estate hounds arrived.
Don't blame the real estate hounds; they are the symptom not the disease. Blame mass family tourism.
There isn't a single nice place on the planet that hasn't been totally ruined as soon as tourists start arriving en masse.
"They called it paradise,
I dont know why.
Call some place paradise,
kiss it goodbye."
The Eagles.
Posted 2012-05-12 10:11:32
ROBINPATTAYA, on 2012-05-12 09:02:12, said:
It will become another concrete jungle when Pattaya turns into a ghetto of unmaintained & derelect building & houses.
"When"? It's already happened. Ever been to Jomtien?
Posted 2012-05-12 14:58:56
FarangBuddha, on 2012-05-11 19:24:01, said:
flyingfox, on 2010-09-04 15:00:26, said:
Compared to just 2 years ago, BS is rising from the ground in a big way. There's a new and beautiful village opp. the beach and lots more coming. There are a few foreign restaurants and pubs (Chez Jerome, Abbey Road, etc.). If I had a car, I would live there.
How is the water, electricity, sewage, and trash services? Can one get high-speed steady internet connections and how is the 3G coverage in the area? Are there any "farang" supermarkets besides 7 and Family...I thought not. When these and lots of other services get up to Pattaya levels get back to me.
Electric, water and sewage are on a par with anywhere else. 3BB is great. Tesco Express in Bang Saray and Tesco at Sattahip plus about 3 more Tesco Express on Suk between Sattahip and Bang Saray. Also Tesco at Bang Chang which is 0nly 20 minutes away.There is a bit of a cliche with the expats and most moan about paying 40 baht for a beer but there are now 8 condos either under or planned construction..Land beachside is almost impossible to find as most is Navy land, and what is for sale is very expensive...Great place to sit on the beach and have good food at very cheap prices....sea is a lot cleaner than Patters or Jomtien.
Posted 2012-05-13 04:53:55
With the new condo developments where is the sewerage going to go? To the sea or do they have a treatment plant in Bang Saray?
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