Bangkok May Be Uninhabitable In Seven Years
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Posted 2010-09-18 06:20:32
Bangkok may be uninhabitable in seven years
By Varataya Chailangka
Dr Ajong Chumsai na Ayudhya, a Thai scientist who has worked with the US space agency Nasa in the past, said yesterday that the areas around the Gulf of Thailand would be hit by tsunamis and that Bangkok would be under water in less than seven years.
At a seminar yesterday about the impact of global warming on Chiang Mai residents, Ajong said humans were mainly to blame for such disasters because they were using up natural resources, chopping down forests and kept emitting greenhouse gases with no regard for the future.
The United States is the biggest contributor to carbon dioxide at 30.2 per cent, followed by China at 30 per cent and India at 23 per cent, he said. Thailand was at rank 22 or 23 out of the 200 biggest emitters of CO2 in the world. With the current CO2 emission rate standing at 395 parts per million (ppm) from the previous 300ppm, he warned that greenhouse gases would increase and bring about inevitable changes.
Ajong explained that over the past three decades the temperature has risen, with warmer seas killing coral reefs, glaciers melting, storms becoming stronger and earthquakes being of greater magnitude.
Warning that temperatures would rise by approximately 4 degrees Celsius, Ajong said polar bears would be extinct in less than 10 years and the seas would rise by six metres.
So far there have been two significant changes to the Earth.
Firstly, the planet's axis has shifted, changing weather patterns, and secondly, the Earth's crust has displaced, causing more frequent and more severe earthquakes and tsunami disasters.
Thailand, which is located on the Eurasian Plate, will be affected, Ajong warned, adding that the Gulf of Thailand would be hit by tsunamis and affect the South very badly.
Earthquakes within the 6-Richter scale and severe flooding would hit provinces in the North, such as Mae Hong Son, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Phayao, Nan, Lampang and Uttaradit, he said.
The Central region, namely Bangkok, Samut Sakhon, Samut Songkhram, Samut Prakan, Nonthaburi and Ayutthaya, would be under seawater, he said, adding that the capital would be uninhabitable in seven years.
-- The Nation 2010-09-18
Posted 2010-09-18 06:45:59
Personally, I'd say its been uninhabitable for quite some time already.
Posted 2010-09-18 06:54:11
nice one !
Posted 2010-09-18 07:18:05
it's now well established that the 'Global Warming' frenzy/scare is just an eloborate racket to generate new tax revenue for the NWO.. (Alex Jones assures me ) so i would safely say totally ignore this thread...
however, as 2012 approaches.. more than a few prominent people are predicting a major magnetic polar shift/flip within the Earth's axis itself (according to George Noory & his numerous guests on Coast to Coast AM), so property atop the highest Doi's may well be a wise investment in the months to come...
...of course, this whole subject could be total baloney with absolutely nothing to worry about at all..
Posted 2010-09-18 07:24:04
Judging by his name, he is an expert who cannot be ignored by Thais.
Posted 2010-09-18 07:35:08
Well I suppose he's putting his money where his mouth is as most of us will still be alive in 7 years to see if he's right or wrong.
Posted 2010-09-18 07:37:31
The shifting axis is no big deal. Magnetic North, shifts by about 24 miles per year, and at that rate, should be at the northern shores of Siberia in a few hundred years, so what. Why should shifting magnetism affect global climate?
Thais can put up with all sorts of assaults (to their senses, to their comfort, etc) so I think the word 'uninhabitable' is overkill. Even when most of Bkk is under one to two meters of standing water, there will be people who will adapt. Houseboats, anyone? Year-round large swaths of standing water there will probably be common in 25 years. The airport also. Yes, the one with a different pronunciation for Thais than for farang.
Posted 2010-09-18 07:38:41
I like the cartoon picture of trees, looks like he is addressing scholl children!
Posted 2010-09-18 07:48:34
Only two eh ..... he's done some in-depth research hasn't he.
Posted 2010-09-18 07:49:53
Well the article doesn't really explain who is on the receiving end of his words of wisdom - it could well be a speech specially for Thai logging company personnel.
Maybe he was the chief tree designer during his time with NASA? As usual with the Nation, there are more questions than answers....
Posted 2010-09-18 07:51:49
There was an old lady who lived in a shoe.
(sorry couldn't resist that typo)
Posted 2010-09-18 07:53:37
As long as the airport isnt affected,Bangkok can drown in its own vermin for all i care.
Posted 2010-09-18 08:03:18
We should be frightened of Global Warming, it is no joking matter. Anyone with eyes, ears and half a brain can see well documented reports of people losing their homes and/or livelihoods due to rising temperatures and sea levels. Many progressive signs leave no doubt that a great change is taking place.
What might be debatable are the causal relationships with human activity. Which implies the possibility or not of our ability to affect the change or its rate.
The separation of evidence for these two hypotheses is extremely important and often obscure. This raises the temperature of political and scientific communities somewhat! The mistaken stand that because the cause is not completely clear no action is possible or at least a waste of money cannot be right. That we must take defensive action against Global Warming cannot be denied by intelligent informed people.
Posted 2010-09-18 08:12:35
We humans have done nothing wrong, as so often confirmed by the vast majority of posters on this forum
Posted 2010-09-18 08:16:03
Isn't Holland below sea level? Is there geological evidence to support his earth-quake claims? Isn't Bangkok the #2 most polluted city city in the world and already considered uninhabitable?
Posted 2010-09-18 08:22:52
The scientific evidence for global warming is irrefutable. However earthquakes cannot be predicted yet and neither can the tsunamis they cause.
Posted 2010-09-18 08:23:18
I heard Dr Art-ong (a clearer and more common spelling than Ajong) speak at a UNESCO conference in 2004. He's pretty impressive. I gather he's spoken about the impending flooding of Bangkok over quite a long period.
In the video below he mentions his Bangkok flooding warnings, but the 6-minute clip is mainly about the sustainable environment projects at his school in Lopburi.
The link is to a page from a family website. You have to scroll down to see the video.
Posted 2010-09-18 08:23:58
There is a global warming???? Who says this??? We shouldn't be that arrogant and believe that we know anything. If humans becoming too nasty, nature will wipe us out. Sure we have to care what is going on, sure we should be carefull with our environment, but stop teaching ordinary people to do better ...and the high end lobby give a sh_t.
Posted 2010-09-18 08:26:01
Raise the money needed by levying a huge tax on every country with an active volcano.
Posted 2010-09-18 08:53:16
Well, it certainly reads like a fairy story, all right.There was an old lady who lived in a shoe.
There is a certain sort of person who needs to make themselves feel important and meaningful by pretending to have discovered the latest Oh No We're Doomed scenario, and this fellow fits the profile perfectly.
Posted 2010-09-18 09:04:30
Creck, you are exactly right. I have been watching global warming since the 1950's and I have no doubt whatever that it is happening. Maybe some of us may remember a Bell Telephone Company movie named "Our Friend the Sun" that was popular with elementary schools back inthe 50's. (Actually I am not even sure how many folks here would even remember Bell Telephone!). In that movie they introduced a concept they called "the greenhouse effect" and told how it would lead to global warming. It was pretty heady stuff and caught my attention even as a kid. <BR><BR>Ten years later I asked my science teacher in high school about the greenhouse effect and global warming and he said he had never heard of any such thing. In fact, he said, the climate was actually getting cooler due to a shift in the jet stream. Now we know that the jst stream shifts on nearly a daily basis, but such was teh knowledge of high school science teachers at that time. We have come a long way. <BR><BR>Three years later I began my decade-long career as a ski bum and I started going every Christmas vacation up to Vermont to work and ski. Over that period I saw ski resort after ski resort close down because the ski season was getting shorter and shorter. Even a couple of ski mountains got closed down bwcause they could not make enough money inthe shortening cold season. Eqach year I would go farther north so that the snow would be reliable at teh end of December. The answer for the ski areas , of course, was massive snow making, but only the larger hills could afford this.<BR><BR>On Long Island in New York, all three ski areas closed down by 1971 because they could not keep the man-made snow on the hills even for a week as the temperatures rose above freezing more and more frequently.<BR><BR>When I arrived in Alaska the first time, I spoke with the old-timers there. I wanted to hear their stories about the incredible cold of the far north. I was shocked to hear every single one of them tell me how the winters had been getting milder for at least a decade. But these were not just "you should have seen the old days" kind of yarns, they gave me specific examples to demonstrate what they saw happening. The legendary cold of -70F in Fairbanks had all but ended by then, and it has never come back.<BR><BR>I have attended the Fairbanks Ice Carving Classic every year for at least fifteen years. It is held at the exact same week every year. I saw with my own eyes that the magnificent ice carvings were melting faster and faster each year. A few years ago several of the carvings actualy melted before the judging took place. They've taken to hanging huge cloth shades to try to at least keep the sun off the statues hoping to prolong their life for a week or so, but even that is not really enough. The obvious solution is to reschedule the contest, but since it is part of a large international circuit, the entire schedule for all the associated ice contests would have to be shifted. I don't know if this is ever going to happen.<BR><BR>I have camped on the beach of long Island, NY since 1965 and I have watched it shrink each year until it is now an annual government exercise to dredge sand from the bottom of the nearby bay and move it to the beach next to the ocean. The expensive tactic is not working, but at least it is slowing the annual erosion down and allowing tourism to continue. <BR><BR>The storms have also been increasing in intenisty and frequency and miles of super-expensive summer homes have had to be abandonned and nature has been allowed to destroy them and ultimately wash them out to sea. That whole section of beach is now closed.<BR><BR>And these are not the only examples I have personally witnessed. My point is that global warming is not a threoretical issue for me since I have seen its effects over and over with my own eyes. Whether this is something that is caused by humans, I cannot say, but any claim that global warming is not happening is simply wrong. I can't say whether Bangkok will have its traffic problems eliminated by liberal application of sea water or not, and I would personally be shocked to see such a thing happen within the time predicted by this speaker, but I can certainly vouch for the notion that there is an alarming trend in motion that must be reckoned with one way or another. I sure do hope this particular prediction is crazy wrong, but I also hope that enough great minds heed the warning signs and find some comfortable solution to the situation.
Posted 2010-09-18 09:11:02
Some recommendations by environmentalists are really true and some of these warnings need to be heeded,
They never get the (some) "real" messages across to the mainstream because they act and exaggerate like WACKOS.
Posted 2010-09-18 09:17:36
Your response is uninformed, Rick. You may be skeptical of Dr Art-ong's views, but he doesn't need to make himself important.
This is his CV:
Prof. Dr. Art-Ong Jumsai Na Ayudhya, Thailand
Name: Dr. Art-ong Jumsai Na Ayudhya
Contact Address: 99 Mu 2, Lamnarai, Chaibadan, Lopburi 15130, Thailand
Participated in NASA's Vlking Space Project in the design of the automatic landing device.
Expert in the National Research Council on rockets for Use in the Artificial Rain Making Project
Posted 2010-09-18 09:26:24
would be a good place to start learning.