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[thailoht]

Does anyone know the location of any retail stores in LOS that stock models of the Zojirushi brand rice cookers, preferably the models using 'Induction', 'Micom' or 'Fuzzy Logic' technology?

[Jimi007]

I haven't seen them here in Thailand. I have a Zojirushi fuzzy logic model in the USA, I have a fuzzy logic Phillips here in Thailand... The Philips doesn't have as many features as the Zojirushi, but it makes good rice and it was a lot less money.

[tim armstrong]

Whats wrong with the saucepan and low heat method ? Has everybody forgotten how to cook rice!? Presumably there soon will be a fuzzy logic (whatever that is) frying pan so that frying an egg will no longer be a challenge. And..probably a fuzzy logic tin opener for the baked beans !

[thailoht]

Jimi007, on 2010-11-05 13:36:53, said:

I haven't seen them here in Thailand. I have a Zojirushi fuzzy logic model in the USA, I have a fuzzy logic Phillips here in Thailand... The Philips doesn't have as many features as the Zojirushi, but it makes good rice and it was a lot less money.

I was hoping to be able to buy a Zojirushi model in LOS and not have to go through the hassle of special ordering a 220 -240 volt model and then having to take it to LOS in my luggage - taking a chance on buying one at Narita airport on the stopover in Tokyo would probably be very cost prohibitive with their high prices coupled with the poor USD exchange rate!

If all else fails, I will have to choose from a couple of preferable rice cooker models mfgr by Sanyo and Panasonic ......

tim armstrong, on 2010-11-05 18:40:56, said:

Whats  wrong with the saucepan and low heat method ? Has everybody forgotten  how to cook rice!?

.......like the hand cranked Model T (or 'A').......Technology marches on!

Edited by thailoht, 2010-11-05 19:09:32.

[Jimi007]

tim armstrong, on 2010-11-05 18:40:56, said:

Whats wrong with the saucepan and low heat method ? Has everybody forgotten how to cook rice!? Presumably there soon will be a fuzzy logic (whatever that is) frying pan so that frying an egg will no longer be a challenge. And..probably a fuzzy logic tin opener for the baked beans !

My LG washing machine has fuzzy logic technology as well as my rice cookers. But I guess you can use a washing tub and hand wash as well, if you want to live with ancient technology. Or go down to the river and wash your clothes on a stone....

[DP25]

What is the benefit of a $200 rice cooker over a $20 one from Tesco?  I've had mine for years and it makes perfect rice every time with no effort on my part

[thailoht]

DP25, on 2010-11-06 00:30:29, said:

What is the benefit of a $200 rice cooker over a $20 one from Tesco?  I've had mine for years and it makes perfect rice every time with no effort on my part

....the short answer is: "If you have to ask.....", but it's (generally) like comparing a $1.50 bottle of Boone's Farm to a $1,550  bottle of Dom. Romane Conti (1997) - both are wines....But........!!  Or a 2011 Daihatsu Opti to a 2011 BMW M6 - they are both cars....But........!!

There is a reason one model of rice cooker can cost $200 (and more!) while another model may cost only $20.....

[nocturn]

thailoht, on 2010-11-06 08:30:05, said:

DP25, on 2010-11-06 00:30:29, said:

What is the benefit of a $200 rice cooker over a $20 one from Tesco?  I've had mine for years and it makes perfect rice every time with no effort on my part

....the short answer is: "If you have to ask.....", but it's (generally) like comparing a $1.50 bottle of Boone's Farm to a $1,550  bottle of Dom. Romane Conti (1997) - both are wines....But........!!  Or a 2011 Daihatsu Opti to a 2011 BMW M6 - they are both cars....But........!!

There is a reason one model of rice cooker can cost $200 (and more!) while another model may cost only $20.....

there may well be a reason, but you still haven't provided it.

[Jimi007]

nocturn, on 2010-11-06 10:44:49, said:

thailoht, on 2010-11-06 08:30:05, said:

DP25, on 2010-11-06 00:30:29, said:

What is the benefit of a $200 rice cooker over a $20 one from Tesco?  I've had mine for years and it makes perfect rice every time with no effort on my part

....the short answer is: "If you have to ask.....", but it's (generally) like comparing a $1.50 bottle of Boone's Farm to a $1,550  bottle of Dom. Romane Conti (1997) - both are wines....But........!!  Or a 2011 Daihatsu Opti to a 2011 BMW M6 - they are both cars....But........!!

There is a reason one model of rice cooker can cost $200 (and more!) while another model may cost only $20.....

there may well be a reason, but you still haven't provided it.

I think he did... My brother asked me the same thing and I told him it makes the rice better and perfect. He bought one and he said I was right.

[Spoonman]

Jimi007, on 2010-11-05 23:49:24, said:

tim armstrong, on 2010-11-05 18:40:56, said:

Whats wrong with the saucepan and low heat method ? Has everybody forgotten how to cook rice!? Presumably there soon will be a fuzzy logic (whatever that is) frying pan so that frying an egg will no longer be a challenge. And..probably a fuzzy logic tin opener for the baked beans !

My LG washing machine has fuzzy logic technology as well as my rice cookers. But I guess you can use a washing tub and hand wash as well, if you want to live with ancient technology. Or go down to the river and wash your clothes on a stone....

My washing machine uses fuzzy logic, so does the dishwasher, rice cooker and toaster............. thank fook she also showers atleast twice a day.

[Jimi007]

thailoht, on 2010-11-05 19:00:59, said:

Jimi007, on 2010-11-05 13:36:53, said:

I haven't seen them here in Thailand. I have a Zojirushi fuzzy logic model in the USA, I have a fuzzy logic Phillips here in Thailand... The Philips doesn't have as many features as the Zojirushi, but it makes good rice and it was a lot less money.

I was hoping to be able to buy a Zojirushi model in LOS and not have to go through the hassle of special ordering a 220 -240 volt model and then having to take it to LOS in my luggage - taking a chance on buying one at Narita airport on the stopover in Tokyo would probably be very cost prohibitive with their high prices coupled with the poor USD exchange rate!

If all else fails, I will have to choose from a couple of preferable rice cooker models mfgr by Sanyo and Panasonic ......

Just a side note to that. Japan uses 100 volts AC, so I doubt they would stock a 220-240 volt model either. I brought a small Webber BBQ in one of my checked bags as they are over 3,300 Baht here, for the little Joe I think it's called. It was $35 in the US. The small kettle on wheels is over 6,600 Baht here. So, if you have time you may want to order the Zojirushi 220 v model if it's available and bring it with you... But make it look used or you may be charged duty on it....

[David006]

Just bought a 360 baht Tesco rice cooker to replace Philips unit ( 850baht..lasted three years) ...faulty/melted micro switch...exactly the same unit except for name...fuzzy logic or whatever still uses a a resistive heater and micro-switches and thermal bi-metalic switches which "break and burn"...waste of money...same same for washers etc...once that card goes tits up (in this climate without mil spec components that is highly likely)...buy a new one..KISS works well for me...."up to you" as they say ... .....knock yourself out

[Jimi007]

Spoonman, on 2010-11-06 12:23:07, said:

Jimi007, on 2010-11-05 23:49:24, said:

tim armstrong, on 2010-11-05 18:40:56, said:

Whats wrong with the saucepan and low heat method ? Has everybody forgotten how to cook rice!? Presumably there soon will be a fuzzy logic (whatever that is) frying pan so that frying an egg will no longer be a challenge. And..probably a fuzzy logic tin opener for the baked beans !

My LG washing machine has fuzzy logic technology as well as my rice cookers. But I guess you can use a washing tub and hand wash as well, if you want to live with ancient technology. Or go down to the river and wash your clothes on a stone....

My washing machine uses fuzzy logic, so does the dishwasher, rice cooker and toaster............. thank fook she also showers atleast twice a day.

LOL! My toaster doesn't and it's the only appliance I have had that shorted out and failed. Other than a fan I knocked over and broke, using my own fuzzy logic by putting it on top of a door mat!

[thailoht]

Jimi007, on 2010-11-06 12:28:50, said:

thailoht, on 2010-11-05 19:00:59, said:

Jimi007, on 2010-11-05 13:36:53, said:

I haven't seen them here in Thailand. I have a Zojirushi fuzzy logic model in the USA, I have a fuzzy logic Phillips here in Thailand... The Philips doesn't have as many features as the Zojirushi, but it makes good rice and it was a lot less money.

I was hoping to be able to buy a Zojirushi model in LOS and not have to go through the hassle of special ordering a 220 -240 volt model and then having to take it to LOS in my luggage - taking a chance on buying one at Narita airport on the stopover in Tokyo would probably be very cost prohibitive with their high prices coupled with the poor USD exchange rate!

If all else fails, I will have to choose from a couple of preferable rice cooker models mfr. by Sanyo and Panasonic ......

Just a side note to that. Japan uses 100 volts AC, so I doubt they would stock a 220-240 volt model either. I brought a small Weber BBQ in one of my checked bags as they are over 3,300 Baht here, for the little Joe I think it's called. It was $35 in the US. The small kettle on wheels is over 6,600 Baht here. So, if you have time you may want to order the Zojirushi 220 v model if it's available and bring it with you... But make it look used or you may be charged duty on it....

I did not know that  uses 100 volts AC.......thanks for that tip! I will look to ordering a European model of this rice cooker if it isn't cost prohibitive - shipping and custom fees(?). If all else fails, I will have to get a different brand of rice cooker from a local retailer here who stocks 220 - 240 volt versions.

I had hoped, short of any Zojirushi sightings there in LOS, that someone would have noted retailers specializing in wide selections of rice cookers.

[Jimi007]

thailoht, on 2010-11-06 20:00:46, said:

Jimi007, on 2010-11-06 12:28:50, said:

thailoht, on 2010-11-05 19:00:59, said:

Jimi007, on 2010-11-05 13:36:53, said:

I haven't seen them here in Thailand. I have a Zojirushi fuzzy logic model in the USA, I have a fuzzy logic Phillips here in Thailand... The Philips doesn't have as many features as the Zojirushi, but it makes good rice and it was a lot less money.

I was hoping to be able to buy a Zojirushi model in LOS and not have to go through the hassle of special ordering a 220 -240 volt model and then having to take it to LOS in my luggage - taking a chance on buying one at Narita airport on the stopover in Tokyo would probably be very cost prohibitive with their high prices coupled with the poor USD exchange rate!

If all else fails, I will have to choose from a couple of preferable rice cooker models mfr. by Sanyo and Panasonic ......

Just a side note to that. Japan uses 100 volts AC, so I doubt they would stock a 220-240 volt model either. I brought a small Weber BBQ in one of my checked bags as they are over 3,300 Baht here, for the little Joe I think it's called. It was $35 in the US. The small kettle on wheels is over 6,600 Baht here. So, if you have time you may want to order the Zojirushi 220 v model if it's available and bring it with you... But make it look used or you may be charged duty on it....

I did not know that  uses 100 volts AC.......thanks for that tip! I will look to ordering a European model of this rice cooker if it isn't cost prohibitive - shipping and custom fees(?). If all else fails, I will have to get a different brand of rice cooker from a local retailer here who stocks 220 - 240 volt versions.

I had hoped, short of any Zojirushi sightings there in LOS, that someone would have noted retailers specializing in wide selections of rice cookers.

Yeah, I've worked with bands and electronic gear from Japan, and we have to use a transformer from 120V US to their 100V gear... Most of my appliances and electronics here aren't Japanese. Mostly Korean, European, Thai and of course Chinese... That's why I love gear with a digital switching power supply. They work from 100V to 240V's. All you need is a plug adaptor...

[mark45y]

I have two fuzzy logic rice cookers, Hitachi and Phillips.  They have different settings for white, jasmine, brown and sticky rice.  I live with Thai people.  Thai people say, “Falang, he not too smart but he sure can cook rice.”

I cook almost everything in the cookers and use them daily.  Spaghetti, congee, cake, steamed and sautéed fish, stews even grilled cheese sandwiches and hamburgers.

[thailoht]

Jimi007, on 2010-11-06 23:17:18, said:

thailoht, on 2010-11-06 20:00:46, said:

I did not know that  uses 100 volts AC.......thanks for that tip! I will look to ordering a European model of this rice cooker if it isn't cost prohibitive - shipping and custom fees(?). If all else fails, I will have to get a different brand of rice cooker from a local retailer here who stocks 220 - 240 volt versions.

I had hoped, short of any Zojirushi sightings there in LOS, that someone would have noted retailers specializing in wide selections of rice cookers.

Yeah, I've worked with bands and electronic gear from Japan, and we have to use a transformer from 120V US to their 100V gear... Most of my appliances and electronics here aren't Japanese. Mostly Korean, European, Thai and of course Chinese... That's why I love gear with a digital switching power supply. They work from 100V to 240V's. All you need is a plug adapter...

I, too, am running a few 120V US appliances on a couple voltage transformers. I was hoping not to have to add yet another 120V US appliance (rice cooker) but I will if it means the difference in having quality components at reasonable costs.

mark45y, on 2010-11-07 11:36:58, said:

I have  two fuzzy logic rice cookers, Hitachi and Phillips.  They have different  settings for white, jasmine, brown and sticky rice.  I live with Thai  people.  Thai people say, "Falang, he not too smart but he sure can cook  rice."

I cook almost everything in the cookers and use them  daily.  Spaghetti, congee, cake, steamed and sautéed fish, stews even  grilled cheese sandwiches and hamburgers.

Did you buy these rice cookers (with these different settings) here in LOS?

[unblocktheplanet]

Australia is also 240V if you know anyone who goes there. It is absolutely hopeless to try to use a voltage adaptor here for 110V appliances. Still better to pre-order over the Internet. Voltage in Thailand is very unstable and the adaptor will soon crap out. And then you'll forget and plug it into the wall, frying your appliance.

Voltage differences make life interesting but I sure crave some of that cheap kit from the US! Had my 110V chainsaw rewired for 240V here.

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET A SAW CHAIN SHARPENED??? (Believe chainsaws were made illegal in Thailand due to illegal logging.)

We wanted to buy a 110V rice cooker for a gift and couldn’t find them on the ’net or in shops. Thai distributors would not special-order a 110V model from Japan. Finally, $30 in Costco!


I think 'fuzzy logic' (c'mon, Jesus Christ, eh!) is overkill for rice. We use a Sharp rice cooker and usually eat a blend of two-thirds organic Thai jasmine and one-third organic red. Sharp is the only brand we've which lets the cooked rice sit warm for up to a week without going 'fuzzy logic'! I looked at the new gen rice cookers in Japan and you just don't need all those buttons, just like on the toilet seats!

[thailoht]

unblocktheplanet, on 2010-11-07 13:47:10, said:

Australia is also 240V if you know anyone who goes there. It is absolutely hopeless to try to use a voltage adaptor here for 110V appliances. Still better to pre-order over the Internet. Voltage in Thailand is very unstable and the adaptor will soon crap out. And then you'll forget and plug it into the wall, frying your appliance.

Voltage differences make life interesting but I sure crave some of that cheap kit from the US! Had my 110V chainsaw rewired for 240V here.

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET A SAW CHAIN SHARPENED??? (Believe chainsaws were made illegal in Thailand due to illegal logging.)

We wanted to buy a 110V rice cooker for a gift and couldn't find them on the 'net or in shops. Thai distributors would not special-order a 110V model from Japan. Finally, $30 in Costco!


I think 'fuzzy logic' (c'mon, Jesus Christ, eh!) is overkill for rice. We use a Sharp rice cooker and usually eat a blend of two-thirds organic Thai jasmine and one-third organic red. Sharp is the only brand we've which lets the cooked rice sit warm for up to a week without going 'fuzzy logic'! I looked at the new gen rice cookers in Japan and you just don't need all those buttons, just like on the toilet seats!

...I definitely hear 'ya about 'all those buttons' on Japanese toilet seats at the airport, I had to walk out because I didn't have the time to  spend figuring out how to use them! Still, with all the varieties of rice that I prefer, red, brown, jasmine, basmati, etc., and their different cooking times, a quality rice cooker with a variety of settings is exactly what's called for.

As for the unstable voltage in Thailand, I bought quality hvy duty transformers w/ voltage regulators for continuous use.

[afarang]

Spoonman, on 2010-11-06 12:23:07, said:

Jimi007, on 2010-11-05 23:49:24, said:

tim armstrong, on 2010-11-05 18:40:56, said:

Whats wrong with the saucepan and low heat method ? Has everybody forgotten how to cook rice!? Presumably there soon will be a fuzzy logic (whatever that is) frying pan so that frying an egg will no longer be a challenge. And..probably a fuzzy logic tin opener for the baked beans !

My LG washing machine has fuzzy logic technology as well as my rice cookers. But I guess you can use a washing tub and hand wash as well, if you want to live with ancient technology. Or go down to the river and wash your clothes on a stone....

My washing machine uses fuzzy logic, so does the dishwasher, rice cooker and toaster............. thank fook she also showers atleast twice a day.

Mine uses super improved fuzzy logic. So much so that sometimes, I have to have a nice,hot cup of tea, a Bex and a good lie down.

[mark45y]

We have a birthday so I add some eggs and water to a cake mix and whip up and put it into one of the fuzzy logic cookers and press a button.  Then I peel and cut up the root vegetables and put them in the steaming compartment of the other fuzzy logic cooker and set aside.  In the bottom I put a bit of butter and a pork shoulder steak and press a button.  The bell tolls in a few minutes and I turn the shoulder steak and press another button.  The bell tolls and I remove the shoulder steak and add water to the cooker and insert the steamer attachment with the steak and root vegetables and press another button.  

During this process the house is not made hot because both cookers are sealed and the heat does not escape even when baking.  The bell tolls again and I remove the cake and set out to cool before putting icing on it.  The bell tolls in the other cooker and and I add some of my special recipe multipurpose rice cooking sauce to the water along with the pork drippings and and add a couple of cups of rice and adjust the water level to the precise measurement for jasmine rice on the side of the pot.  The bell tolls again and I remove the shoulder steak cut it and garnish it with the root vegetables and add the perfectly cooked rice to the plates.  Dinner for four.  

The ladies clean the two pots with a soft sponge because they are non stick pots.  No muss to fuss and I eat a balanced meal daily of chicken, beef, pork or fish and vegetables and rice.

[thailoht]

nocturn, on 2010-11-06 10:44:49, said:

thailoht, on 2010-11-06 08:30:05, said:

DP25, on 2010-11-06 00:30:29, said:

What is the benefit of a $200 rice cooker over a $20 one from Tesco?  I've had mine for years and it makes perfect rice every time with no effort on my part

....the short answer is: "If you have to ask.....", but it's (generally) like comparing a $1.50 bottle of Boone's Farm to a $1,550  bottle of Dom. Romane Conti (1997) - both are wines....But........!!  Or a 2011 Daihatsu Opti to a 2011 BMW M6 - they are both cars....But........!!

.....there is a reason one model of rice cooker can cost $200 (and more!) while another model may cost only $20.....

there may well be a reason, but you still haven't provided it.

.......The guy (in the quote below) took the time to give one example:

mark45y, on 2010-11-07 18:56:49, said:

We have a  birthday so I add some eggs and water to a cake mix and whip up and put  it into one of the fuzzy logic cookers and press a button.  Then I peel  and cut up the root vegetables and put them in the steaming compartment  of the other fuzzy logic cooker and set aside.  In the bottom I put a  bit of butter and a pork shoulder steak and press a button.  The bell  tolls in a few minutes and I turn the shoulder steak and press another  button.  The bell tolls and I remove the shoulder steak and add water to  the cooker and insert the steamer attachment with the steak and root  vegetables and press another button.  

During this process the  house is not made hot because both cookers are sealed and the heat does  not escape even when baking.  The bell tolls again and I remove the cake  and set out to cool before putting icing on it.  The bell tolls in the  other cooker and and I add some of my special recipe multipurpose rice  cooking sauce to the water along with the pork drippings and and add a  couple of cups of rice and adjust the water level to the precise  measurement for jasmine rice on the side of the pot.  The bell tolls  again and I remove the shoulder steak cut it and garnish it with the  root vegetables and add the perfectly cooked rice to the plates.  Dinner  for four.  

The ladies clean the two pots with a soft sponge  because they are non stick pots.  No muss to fuss and I eat a balanced  meal daily of chicken, beef, pork or fish and vegetables and rice.

Excellent example!!

Now, we have the choice of : Micom, Fuzzy Logic, Neuro Fuzzy Logic and Induction Heating Rice Cookers....welcome to the 21st century!!

[KBTexas]

If you have found a way to get a Zoji that works in Thailand, please let me know also.  I arrived in Thailand last week, and have looked, in vain, for a Zoji Micom rice cooker.  Bought a Hitachi at the electronics store for 2000 baht that will not be used again as there is NO WAY to remove the steam lid for cleaning so all the gunk just builds up.  TERRIBLE design. Robinsons carries some Zoji stuff, but not the rice cookers.  (I imagine they cost too much to sell many in Thailand)

Used the Zoji Micom 5.5 cup cooker for a year and a half every day for breakfast (grits, oatmeal, jook) and dinner  chicken and rice, shrimp and rice, etc.) and never had a single issue with it.  Easy to clean (including the steamer lid) and I want another one.

Thanks for any info...

Best Regards,
KB

thailoht, on 2010-11-06 20:00:46, said:

Jimi007, on 2010-11-06 12:28:50, said:

thailoht, on 2010-11-05 19:00:59, said:

Jimi007, on 2010-11-05 13:36:53, said:

I haven't seen them here in Thailand. I have a Zojirushi fuzzy logic model in the USA, I have a fuzzy logic Phillips here in Thailand... The Philips doesn't have as many features as the Zojirushi, but it makes good rice and it was a lot less money.

I was hoping to be able to buy a Zojirushi model in LOS and not have to go through the hassle of special ordering a 220 -240 volt model and then having to take it to LOS in my luggage - taking a chance on buying one at Narita airport on the stopover in Tokyo would probably be very cost prohibitive with their high prices coupled with the poor USD exchange rate!

If all else fails, I will have to choose from a couple of preferable rice cooker models mfr. by Sanyo and Panasonic ......

Just a side note to that. Japan uses 100 volts AC, so I doubt they would stock a 220-240 volt model either. I brought a small Weber BBQ in one of my checked bags as they are over 3,300 Baht here, for the little Joe I think it's called. It was $35 in the US. The small kettle on wheels is over 6,600 Baht here. So, if you have time you may want to order the Zojirushi 220 v model if it's available and bring it with you... But make it look used or you may be charged duty on it....

I did not know that  uses 100 volts AC.......thanks for that tip! I will look to ordering a European model of this rice cooker if it isn't cost prohibitive - shipping and custom fees(?). If all else fails, I will have to get a different brand of rice cooker from a local retailer here who stocks 220 - 240 volt versions.

I had hoped, short of any Zojirushi sightings there in LOS, that someone would have noted retailers specializing in wide selections of rice cookers.

[KBTexas]

Found this link while searching the Zoji website for stores in Thailand.  It might come in handy.  I do notice that they list the unit as 220-240 volts.  http://www.zojirushi.com.hk/

UNION ZOJIRUSHI CO., LTD
11/3 MOO 14 BANGCHAN INDUSTRIAL ESTATE
SERITHAI ROAD, MINBURI, BANGKOK 10510, THAILAND  
(66 2) 517 8159  
fax-(66 2) 919 9058

Hope it helps...I will call today and see what I can find out.

Best Regards,
KB

[KBTexas]

Hmmm, it would appear no way to get a Zoji in Thailand.

Here is the reply from Zoji:
Dear  Customer,

Thank you for your interest & support of our products.

We regret to inform you that we don't have any agent or stores in Thailand  to sell our electrical products of rice cookers and on-line service can be  provided too. Very sorry for about that & not helping you more even we wish  we could.

Thanks for your inquiry.

Best regards,
Carmen of Zojirushi HK Co. Ltd

KBTexas, on 2011-10-18 06:34:46, said:

Found this link while searching the Zoji website for stores in Thailand.  It might come in handy.  I do notice that they list the unit as 220-240 volts.  http://www.zojirushi.com.hk/

UNION ZOJIRUSHI CO., LTD
11/3 MOO 14 BANGCHAN INDUSTRIAL ESTATE
SERITHAI ROAD, MINBURI, BANGKOK 10510, THAILAND  
(66 2) 517 8159  
fax-(66 2) 919 9058

Hope it helps...I will call today and see what I can find out.

Best Regards,
KB