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#51 jez56

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Posted 2011-03-24 06:32:35

"As a person who has lived in South Africa and been through all the racism there I found that for a Thai national chain to stock & display such a blatantly derogatory brand was deeply offensive."

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Why don't you blacklist them?

#52 brommers

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Posted 2011-03-24 06:41:02

In would like to recognise that the store has now withdrawn these offensive items, and I commend their swift response.

Try living under Apartheid and see what negative stereotyping feels like. It has permanently damaged the economic success of the majority of South Africans and poisoned relationships between races. To harbour such attitudes on the personal level is one thing but for a commercial enterprise to promote it through branding is another and must be stamped out.

To those who find my attitude difficult to swallow, so be it. I have endured much worse than your words when I worked against the system in South Africa. I will continue to espouse tolerance of race, of gender, of orientation, ageism etc no matter where it manifests itself.

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Posted 2011-03-24 06:43:26

I think you have too much time on your hands.

Thailand is as racist as anywhere I have been - I stopped being shocked when my girlfriend referred to blacks as 'chocolate men' .


That's because they're lovely to lick...

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Posted 2011-03-24 07:00:45

In would like to recognise that the store has now withdrawn these offensive items, and I commend their swift response.


Did they really? That's silly and I feel sorry for that store to be abused like that for basically nothing. Those are good products with a long history in THAILAND and in the context of the racialism in Thai society, which is massive but not related to South African issues, those Black Man cleaning products are meaningless.

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Posted 2011-03-24 08:16:44

I think you have too much time on your hands.

Thailand is as racist as anywhere I have been - I stopped being shocked when my girlfriend referred to blacks as 'chocolate men' .

reminds of a time many rainy seasons ago when i was a tourist. was sitting at a bar and talking to a black American when one of the girls grabbed his hand and said "oh you chocolate man. i like chocolate too mutt".

the American replied with a big grin "yeah, and i've got a big chocolate bar for you to taste."

p.s. in the 80s there was another nice one to hear "you Austalya, same kangaloo hop hop hop."

advice for the OP: "get a life for God's sake!"

Edited by Naam, 2011-03-24 08:19:48.


#56 Diablo Bob

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Posted 2011-03-24 08:23:42

In would like to recognise that the store has now withdrawn these offensive items, and I commend their swift response.

Try living under Apartheid and see what negative stereotyping feels like. It has permanently damaged the economic success of the majority of South Africans and poisoned relationships between races. To harbour such attitudes on the personal level is one thing but for a commercial enterprise to promote it through branding is another and must be stamped out.

To those who find my attitude difficult to swallow, so be it. I have endured much worse than your words when I worked against the system in South Africa. I will continue to espouse tolerance of race, of gender, of orientation, ageism etc no matter where it manifests itself.


Wow, a super hero :o Do you use a phone booth to change into your mask & cape. :rolleyes:

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Posted 2011-03-24 08:32:12

In would like to recognise that the store has now withdrawn these offensive items, and I commend their swift response.

Try living under Apartheid and see what negative stereotyping feels like. It has permanently damaged the economic success of the majority of South Africans and poisoned relationships between races. To harbour such attitudes on the personal level is one thing but for a commercial enterprise to promote it through branding is another and must be stamped out.

To those who find my attitude difficult to swallow, so be it. I have endured much worse than your words when I worked against the system in South Africa. I will continue to espouse tolerance of race, of gender, of orientation, ageism etc no matter where it manifests itself.


Well fair play to you. What made them withdraw? Was it pressure from the South Africa embassy? Yes it is a small drop in the ocean compared to what is around in around Asia, I'd have at a guess many stores still stock these products and the darkie toothpaste which is apparently popular, but it's better than nothing. Such products wouldn't be allowed nowadays in England or U.S and many other places.

Hey if you thought some of the replies in this thread were bad, just look at this thread below. It's a shocker.
http://www.thaivisa....usters-etc-etc/


Like I say many expats are much more racist than the natives. With Thai's and other Asian's I feel that with many their racism comes from more of from a position of ignorance due lack of exposure to black people and a lack of race education with the expats the majority know that these products are wrong and wouldn't be allowed in their home country, their intend is much more nasty, they really mean to offend..as you can see from the threads.

Edited by jackers, 2011-03-24 08:33:53.


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Posted 2011-03-24 08:38:43

In would like to recognise that the store has now withdrawn these offensive items, and I commend their swift response.

Try living under Apartheid and see what negative stereotyping feels like. It has permanently damaged the economic success of the majority of South Africans and poisoned relationships between races. To harbour such attitudes on the personal level is one thing but for a commercial enterprise to promote it through branding is another and must be stamped out.

To those who find my attitude difficult to swallow, so be it. I have endured much worse than your words when I worked against the system in South Africa. I will continue to espouse tolerance of race, of gender, of orientation, ageism etc no matter where it manifests itself.



You keep telling us about your fight in S.Africa. I used to be a regular visitor into Capetown and Durban when my ship used to call there and I admit it used to be awkward going ashore with the Celyonese 2nd Mate (he never accepted the Sri Lanakan bit) and finding somewhere we both could have a drink. I don't know how you can equate that system of Government with a brand name. I will be very surprised if that company has taken the slightest bit of notice of you as everyone sells that brand. Am I racist, well being married to a woman from another race for the past 20 odd years would indicate otherwise. If your not deliberately trying to wind people up then you seem to be a crusader in search of a crusade. Good luck with it but there is no need to tell us about it. Honest!

#59 jackers

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Posted 2011-03-24 08:49:48

Post if you want to post Brommers, this is a forum for discussion. Just be aware your very unlikely to change the stick in the mud racist attitudes of many posters here.

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Posted 2011-03-24 09:12:05


In would like to recognise that the store has now withdrawn these offensive items, and I commend their swift response.


Did they really?


Really realy. :rolleyes:.

Let's see, Brommers posted about this great injustice at 6:15pm last night, and this morning at 6:40am he reports the store acted swiftly to Mr. Irate Farang's complaint and removed all unsold stock, then informed him by 6am-ish, well before store opening!

And who says Thailand doesn't do proper customer service! Eh! eh!!

I'm especially envious to get a three-pager out of it just overnight. Respect!! :lol:

So there it is: Alles sal reg kom as ons almal ons plig doen.

Edited by WinnieTheKhwai, 2011-03-24 09:17:00.


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Posted 2011-03-24 09:18:15

I think you should organise a picket nationwide outside all their outlets.

Quite frankly I can't believe what I've heard and I think I'll have to lie down to get over the shock.

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Posted 2011-03-24 09:56:19


In would like to recognise that the store has now withdrawn these offensive items, and I commend their swift response.

Try living under Apartheid and see what negative stereotyping feels like. It has permanently damaged the economic success of the majority of South Africans and poisoned relationships between races. To harbour such attitudes on the personal level is one thing but for a commercial enterprise to promote it through branding is another and must be stamped out.

To those who find my attitude difficult to swallow, so be it. I have endured much worse than your words when I worked against the system in South Africa. I will continue to espouse tolerance of race, of gender, of orientation, ageism etc no matter where it manifests itself.


Wow, a super hero :o Do you use a phone booth to change into your mask & cape. :rolleyes:

He probably just waits until it goes dark.

#63 ChiangMaiFun

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Posted 2011-03-24 10:51:11

Do they also carry Darkie toothpaste by any chance?

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so funny... I thought we had left all that PC crap behind... obviously not

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Posted 2011-03-24 10:53:58


In would like to recognise that the store has now withdrawn these offensive items, and I commend their swift response.


Did they really? That's silly and I feel sorry for that store to be abused like that for basically nothing. Those are good products with a long history in THAILAND and in the context of the racialism in Thai society, which is massive but not related to South African issues, those Black Man cleaning products are meaningless.


we agree!

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Posted 2011-03-24 10:55:16

AND what about the 'WHITENING' products??? I feel insulted! angry! and abused as a white man - take them away!!!

I demand that we all write to our Embassy's about this - it's insufferable!

#66 jackr

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Posted 2011-03-24 11:04:09

Try living under Apartheid and see what negative stereotyping feels like. It has permanently damaged the economic success of the majority of South Africans and poisoned relationships between races. To harbour such attitudes on the personal level is one thing but for a commercial enterprise to promote it through branding is another and must be stamped out.

I'm sorry but as much as racism is a bad thing (though you are off-tangent regards this product), coming over here and expecting them to bend to your ideals is a bit arrogant. If you're offended, I hate to say it, but you'd be best off remaining in the West with all its PC nonsense. On this subject, Thailand is just dandy as it is thanks, don't pollute it.

Post if you want to post Brommers, this is a forum for discussion. Just be aware your very unlikely to change the stick in the mud racist attitudes of many posters here.

As for you, weren't you on here just last week lapping up lots of good advice? Stop trolling!

#67 David006

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Posted 2011-03-24 11:04:41

oh dear..bit over the top mate with your PC attitude and rather misdirected..
with all your energy perhaps you should be investigating the worldwide sweat shop labour that goes into production of the foodstuffs and products you/we all consume and utilize..don't just pick on the "easy" stuff and shout about it
this world of ours was/is built on what you refer to as racism and exploitation of others...

bet you really believe that the abolition of segregation in SA or even the Southern States has benefited the masses....segregation continues to exist everywhere by social and financial standing.....

Maybe you should pop on over to Zimbabwe and have a chat with Mugabe or maybe Israel and Netanyahu about racism...!

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Posted 2011-03-24 11:25:40

As for you, weren't you on here just last week lapping up lots of good advice?

Hmm yes I was, so what?

Stop trolling

I fail to see what trolling I've done, but if you really think I'm trolling please do report it to the mods.

Edited by jackers, 2011-03-24 11:30:40.


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Posted 2011-03-24 11:29:44

AND what about the 'WHITENING' products??? I feel insulted! angry! and abused as a white man - take them away!!!

I demand that we all write to our Embassy's about this - it's insufferable!


Well in an ideal world they would be banned many of these whitening, skin bleaching products are dangerous as some contain mercury.

#70 Jingthing

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Posted 2011-03-24 11:40:47

The entire "story" of this thread smells of non-truthiness (sic), yes?

#71 jackers

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Posted 2011-03-24 11:51:28

Many of the posts smell like B.S to me.

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Posted 2011-03-24 13:47:35



In would like to recognise that the store has now withdrawn these offensive items, and I commend their swift response.

Try living under Apartheid and see what negative stereotyping feels like. It has permanently damaged the economic success of the majority of South Africans and poisoned relationships between races. To harbour such attitudes on the personal level is one thing but for a commercial enterprise to promote it through branding is another and must be stamped out.

To those who find my attitude difficult to swallow, so be it. I have endured much worse than your words when I worked against the system in South Africa. I will continue to espouse tolerance of race, of gender, of orientation, ageism etc no matter where it manifests itself.


Wow, a super hero :o Do you use a phone booth to change into your mask & cape. :rolleyes:

He probably just waits until it goes dark.


On second thought, maybe he doesn't change at all :o that's how he dresses everyday :blink:

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Posted 2011-03-24 13:52:51

Dude.. <deleted>.


+1

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Posted 2011-03-24 14:07:46

Try living under Apartheid and see what negative stereotyping feels like. It has permanently damaged the economic success of the majority of South Africans and poisoned relationships between races. To harbour such attitudes on the personal level is one thing but for a commercial enterprise to promote it through branding is another and must be stamped out.

I'm sorry but as much as racism is a bad thing (though you are off-tangent regards this product), coming over here and expecting them to bend to your ideals is a bit arrogant. If you're offended, I hate to say it, but you'd be best off remaining in the West with all its PC nonsense. On this subject, Thailand is just dandy as it is thanks, don't pollute it.


Well said jackr!

Edited by prism, 2011-03-24 14:10:13.


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Posted 2011-03-24 14:18:20

Well in that case I'll be complaining to Boots. Went in there and couldn't find one skin product that wouldn't turn me whiter than white. But I don't want to be whiter, I'm white enough as it is! How dare they assume that everyone that shops there is dark skinned, its discrimination! :whistling:
As for the offending mops being recalled maybe they just sold out with the good advertising! Many people suspected a prospective mop shortage.





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