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[jofoto10]

Hello, Is there is anyone in this form that might have a suggestion for me:


  I am looking for an author, spokesperson, columnist, activist or celebrity who can help to promote a unique agricultural project here in Thailand. It involves healthy food production, conservation, and renewable energy production. Our intention is to raise food security and to help local Thai communities prosper. Thank you from blueskynaturefarms  Best regards, Joseph.

[WatersEdge]

So eliminate the mystery already and put it up here.

I will be so bold to speak for the general mood of the forum,
We aren't much for drama.

Don't worry though, we don't actually bite.

I'll give you my two cents in advance,
Anything that starts with a spin and dance is probably snake oil.

The hard cold truth of Thailand is that
the people who might look like they need help,
don't want it
unless it requires absolutely no thought or sweat on their part.
That condenses down to,
In order to gain superficial acceptance you need to just pass out money,
and when it's all gone return to where you started.
If that sounds jaded,
talk to me again in two years.

What you propose is exactly what I do.
I'm not so unique,
it's what a lot of the other members do as well,
from a slight variety of personal situation, financial means, and duration of stay.

healthy food production,
conservation, and
renewable energy production.
Our intention is to raise food security and
to help local Thai communities prosper.

So that you don't think I'm a mean old man,
read read read to glean the general consensus of the outsider who wants to help Thailand.

The only effect that I can demonstrate after 7 years in Thailand,
is that the men who have earned my daily labor wages
have provided for their families with dignity,
whereas their counterparts waited for an NGO to give them something.

My strategy is not to teach or demonstrate or to help anyone.
I just try to conduct a farm and to make a profit.
The individuals who are inclined from their own initiative to learn from me,
have done so.
But to make that an objective is naive.

[IsaanAussie]

W.E. really, give the poor guy a break. You could well be the spokeman he has asked for.

Jo, welcome to the farming forum. You might have wondered why it took a while to get any answer. Well I was just waiting for Watersedge to start off the responses. Seemed more up his street than most of us.

I had a look at the website and your farm looks good, none looks to be overdone and out of reach for the local farmers. Good luck to you. Perhaps if you looked for "stakehlders" here you would do better as many of us would like to see many things change in methods used in farming here. You will definitely find a wealth of local knowledge should you have a need.

I basically agree with WE on his view of gaining an audience until your funds are expended. You only have to look at the actual results gained on most occasions. Some of the Kings Projects seem to be viable for longer but maybe that is funding or loyality, I dont know, but many of them and the provincial government training programs seem to be flashes in the pan.

If your lucky enough to have continuous funding then WE's advice to ensure a profit seems like a good idea, just in case. I can say from personal experience that any idea of providing indirect assistance to local farmers while you are trying something new is a folly. Just give them the money, let them decide how to spend it.

Anyway, good luck.

Isaan Aussie

[lannarebirth]

WatersEdge, on 2011-04-02 14:38:12, said:

So eliminate the mystery already and put it up here.

No mystery.  he / she did put it up:



edited the link of course....

Edited by bina, 2011-04-03 11:49:21.
for the forum rule about links to commercial ventures etc..

[WatersEdge]

OK IsaanAussie,
I'll give the guy a break if you say so.


OK, lannarebirth,
I didn't recognize that at the bottom as a weblink.


OK, jofoto10
The guys say I have to be nice to you.
I'll go up and have a look.

[loong]

I had a look at the website at blueskynaturefarms, interesting stuff as far as it goes. Some of the webpages are password protected for some reason.

Is this a concept limited to the drawing board, or is there actually a farm already built somewhere?
Is this a charitable organisation or a business venture?
Do blueskynaturefarms fund the project or look for local investment?

Good luck. Unfortunately, in my experience, most farmers do not adapt to change very readily and certainly do not appreciate any advice from foreigners.

[Aggie]

I am interested in possibly participating in your initiative.  I have sent a message direct to your account here on TV.com as well as to the e-mail address posted on your website.  Looking forward to hearing from you.  Matt (Aggie) mjz1963@gmail.com