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[LivinLOS]

Prediction the first time this was mentioned..

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Top floor of Jung Ceylon.. Huge staff (so massive ongoing to add to the JC rent).. And that price per ticket..

Not a prayer.. 18 months depending on the depth of losses hes prepared to take.

The 18 month timer might have to get reduced to 9.. One high season.

2 mil USD invested.. sheesh..

Edited by LivinLOS, 2011-09-01 11:52:09.

[hkt83100]

LivinLOS, on 2011-09-01 11:50:48, said:

2 mil USD invested.. sheesh..

I guess he will be about as successful as the Oktoberfest.(If someone can still remember that one.)

Typo corrected.

Edited by hkt83100, 2011-09-01 17:35:09.

[LivinginKata]

hkt83100, on 2011-09-01 17:34:13, said:

I guess he will be about as successful as the Oktoberfest.(If someone can still remember that one.)

Oh yes, I remember that one. Leased the land for 10 years (at big cost), bought a second hand big tent structure, lasted a year. Now the land has been cleared waiting for the next one to come along.

[TheWalkingMan]

USD 2mil?  He could have invested in 30 to 50 beer bars in Pattaya and at least got some daily cash.


TheWalkingMan

[barka]

A fool and his money are soon pated..here in PARADISE PHUKET.. the land of dreams eg,PURAVANA,THE STUNT SHOWand now MR JOE CONRAD..And many other Atractions,does nobody ever do a bussines plan or risk assesment ..this is not Las Vegas..

[LivinginKata]

Mmmm ... we still muse about the Stunt Show every time we pass by the derelict site. lot of money spent building the stadium and pool. Little spent on marketing, transport, etc.

[LivinLOS]

With the magic show I can fully understand a short run and seeing the reality of ticket sales reassessment.

But the one that baffles me, is how many businesses invest so much on the startup, but seem to have no budget to allow for the growth or expansion phase when they are not know. Open, 3 months later closed. Surely the vast amount of investment some of these things put in, has a lead time to achieve profitability.

BTW whats the status on the Kathu water park. Work appeared to stop about 18 months ago and I never heard if it restarted. Big money was being put into that site.

[Ping]

LivinginKata, on 2011-09-01 17:45:46, said:

hkt83100, on 2011-09-01 17:34:13, said:

I guess he will be about as successful as the Oktoberfest.(If someone can still remember that one.)

Oh yes, I remember that one. Leased the land for 10 years (at big cost), bought a second hand big tent structure, lasted a year. Now the land has been cleared waiting for the next one to come along.

I think one of the major problems at the Bavaria Beer House (?) was that they did not sell German beer, were way too costly (food and drink) and did not have sufficient live entertainment - not to mention poor location. I went once - to never return.

[FrankBlunt]

Ping, on 2011-09-02 13:09:09, said:

I think one of the major problems at the Bavaria Beer House (?) was that they did not sell German beer, were way too costly (food and drink) and did not have sufficient live entertainment - not to mention poor location. I went once - to never return.

That sounds more like 4 major problems to me and certainly not a recipe for success.

[barka]

LivinLOS, on 2011-09-02 11:11:09, said:

With the magic show I can fully understand a short run and seeing the reality of ticket sales reassessment.

But the one that baffles me, is how many businesses invest so much on the startup, but seem to have no budget to allow for the growth or expansion phase when they are not know. Open, 3 months later closed. Surely the vast amount of investment some of these things put in, has a lead time to achieve profitability.

BTW whats the status on the Kathu water park. Work appeared to stop about 18 months ago and I never heard if it restarted. Big money was being put into that site.

Another foreign investor,dreaming,another white elephant,big losses.. another comcrete grave yard...they must have money to burn or maybe some other investors money, it certainly wont be Thai money..

[RioMist]

I went to this show just over a week ago. I payed 900 baht per ticket. No one told me about any discount for ex pats so I'm a bit niffed to say the least as i bought 6 tickets. The show itself was a waste of money and Joe Conrad looked a poor mans David Copperfield. Infact I have seen better magicians at kids birthday parties! The 'levitation' at the end was a laugh.... Anyone could see a mile off that the girl was being lifted by some contraption behind the curtain.
There was about 25 people at the show so we did rattle about at bit but I don't think anyone was enthusiastic and the applause was quite muted. Half the show was taken up by dancing girls, about the same age as my Mom some of them!
CONCLUSION.... GIVE IT A MISS AND SAVE YOURSELF SOME MONEY.

[falkan]

Was not much action as I passed by today, a farang trying to sell tickets outside to the people who walked past, tough job...they need to do more advertising

[markg]

Another one bites the dust.
Apparently Joe Conrad has 'vanished' into thin air.
Website has been taken down.
People who were predicting 9 months were right by the looks of things.
I did go to his show once and it was a bit lame.
Not many positive comments on trip adviser either.
Hope the guy didn't lose too much of his own money.
Badly thought out, seemingly no business plan, pretty poor magic tricks. Must try harder next time !

[thaiIand]

he gave a free show for headstart like 2weeks ago

[LivinginKata]

markg, on 2012-01-31 17:41:04, said:

Badly thought out, seemingly no business plan, pretty poor magic tricks. Must try harder next time !

Much like the Chalong Stunt show, and the October beerfest in Patong. just to name some of the recent failures.

[markg]

LivinginKata, on 2012-01-31 19:20:02, said:

Much like the Chalong Stunt show, and the October beerfest in Patong. just to name some of the recent failures.

Yes, sadly true. It's always a heck of a shame when someone has an idea that is different from other things, and it fails. Feel sorry for all these guys to be honest.
There is a lot of 'same same' in Phuket. We need variety !
Slightly off topic, went to Siam Naramit last night (Thai historical culture show) They've taken a HUGE plot on the bypass road (Near Hino trucks). There were only about 50 people in the audience. Hope it doesn't go the same way as Joe Conrad, Stunt Show and Beerfest or all we will be left with is streets and streets of sameness !

[thaiIand]

is the new show on bangla doing good? Is it anygood?

[zulugutt]

If you by saying the new show in Bangla means magicitian Joe Labero, I think his show will be much better after reading what people think after visiting the Joe Conrad-show. Joe Labero is from Sweden, and very popular in Scandinavia. According to his website he had some shows in Bangkok before coming til Phuket, so he is here just on a tour.

[thaiIand]

i dont frequent patong much but last time i saw a new teather on bangla road, thats what im refering to