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[midasthailand]

samjaidee, on 2011-05-08 09:48:28, said:

champken, on 2011-05-07 23:43:01, said:

I've heard that female company can be expensive and difficult to enjoy ...is that true?

Yes. Exactly as it should be. Courting is an important part of Vietnamese culture whether its Vietnamese with Vietnamese or Vietnamese with Foreigner. Many girls wait a long time; weeks, months or sometimes until marriage, before they allow sex to become part of a relationship.


One of the most appealing parts of life in Saigon compared to expat life in many Thai cities in the complete lack of in your face "sex industry". If that's what you're looking for then Thailand or Cambodia would be your best bet.

Whilst I have not been there (except off the coast in 1970) I have a friend who visits there regularly and extols the beauty and availability of the local girls (that are on the game) for US$20.

[tutsiwarrior]

I think that as a tourist a 30 day visa would be all that one needs to get a feel for the place...it ain't Thailand...

I went there on work contracts and not as a tourist so that my understanding of the place and its people is more intimate...plus my expenses were all taken care of...a suitable western lifestyle in Hanoi or HCMC can be expensive if it comes out of yer pocket...

yeah...there are girls (the most beautiful that I have seen in asia) and etc but that's not really the issue...if you plan to stay then you need to get out and about to check things out...how would you fit in?...Thailand is predictable...Vietnam is not...

[IsaanUSA]

tutsiwarrior, on 2012-03-29 08:23:44, said:

yeah...there are girls (the most beautiful that I have seen in asia)

When I told a Thai lady friend that the women in Vietnam were the most beautiful in Asia, she was very surprised.  But wow!  They really are.  Thai girls are cute, Vietnamese women are beautiful.

I like this,

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Thailand is predictable...Vietnam is not...

but I think that if one is familiar with Asian culture and have been in Thailand for several months, then Vietnam is not so intimidating.  I would not recommend Vietnam for a first time Asia visitor though.  In addition, people (tourists) need to understand that tourism in Vietnam is relatively new (15 years or so) and the people are scrambling to get a piece of the tourist dong pie (lol).  The Vietnamese are more in your face about getting your money, where in Thailand they are much much much more coy about it.  Funny thing is, when they triple overcharge you in Vietnam, it's still cheap!


I agree with you Tutsi, Thailand is more comfortable for expats.  It's more westernized.

Edited by IsaanUSA, 2012-03-29 21:35:11.

[tfc]

Any recommendations for a serviced apartment in district 1 for a couple of months?

[tutsiwarrior]

tfc, on 2012-03-30 10:42:30, said:

Any recommendations for a serviced apartment in district 1 for a couple of months?

there are serviced flats available in district 1 in HCMC but they aren't cheap, like USD 2-3000 per month...I had a nice one all paid by my employer, 2 bedrooms but the roar from motorbikes from 6am to 9pm is hard to take if you are a light sleeper...

on my last job I was in the middle of nowhere on the north central coast and I endured extreme hardship conditions...not for tourists but really wild and beautiful...if you are adventurous check it out...two airports: Vinh to the north and Dong Hoi to the south...in between you shall see the real Vietnam...a magical place...

Edited by tutsiwarrior, 2012-03-30 17:11:16.

[tutsiwarrior]

(I wanted to say something  about US Senator John McCain who became a US national hero and a presidential candidate after bombing the shit outta the place but I won't...)

[IsaanUSA]

tutsiwarrior, on 2012-03-30 17:32:25, said:

(I wanted to say something  about US Senator John McCain who became a US national hero and a presidential candidate after bombing the shit outta the place but I won't...)

Hopefully something positive.

[tfc]

tutsiwarrior, on 2012-03-30 16:59:03, said:

tfc, on 2012-03-30 10:42:30, said:

Any recommendations for a serviced apartment in district 1 for a couple of months?

there are serviced flats available in district 1 in HCMC but they aren't cheap, like USD 2-3000 per month...I had a nice one all paid by my employer, 2 bedrooms but the roar from motorbikes from 6am to 9pm is hard to take if you are a light sleeper...

on my last job I was in the middle of nowhere on the north central coast and I endured extreme hardship conditions...not for tourists but really wild and beautiful...if you are adventurous check it out...two airports: Vinh to the north and Dong Hoi to the south...in between you shall see the real Vietnam...a magical place...

Thanks for that.  Rent seems comparable to what I pay in Australia.

[tutsiwarrior]

'on my last job I was in the middle of nowhere on the north central coast and I endured extreme hardship conditions...not for tourists but really wild and beautiful...if you are adventurous check it out...two airports: Vinh to the north and Dong Hoi to the south...in between you shall see the real Vietnam...a magical place...'

I heard from someone who is still in the area and he said that in colonial times that the french called the main highway in that area AH1 'the road without joy'...

maybe not joy-full but quite scenic...the panorama as you approach the town of Ky Anh from the north is spectacular...useta do a weekly shopping at the supermarket in Ha Tinh city then load up with Bier Hanoi for the 1 hour drive and cruise back to the digs at the Hoa Sim hotel at the Deo Con pass and that was the entertainment/recreation for the week...drunk engineers laughin' and yellin' (a sober vietnamese at the wheel)...we loved/hated the place...huge craters everywhere from the bombing during 'the american war'...local folks in cone hats, flipflops and ox carts minding their own business like nothin' ever happened 40 years ago...school girls in school uniform with hair down to their butts to die for...country girls don't cut their hair until they are married, I'm told...very chaste but horribly captivating...

Edited by tutsiwarrior, 2012-03-31 00:37:08.