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[happyme]

As from January 1^st 2012 the same rule applies as per EU regulations when taking your pet back to UK no 6 months quarantine abut time

[endure]

http://en.wikipedia....lence_of_rabies

[mallmagician]

endure, on 2011-07-07 14:55:10, said:

http://en.wikipedia....lence_of_rabies

Eh? The point is ........?

Personally that's great news to me. Gives me easier options should we choose to return to the UK.

[endure]

The UK has been rabies free since the 1920s. The highest incidence of rabies in the world is in Africa and Asia. How long do you think that the UK will be rabies free if pets are allowed into the UK from Asia and Africa without undergoing quarantine?

[mallmagician]

I don't know much about the Eu procedure, but I assume it will include certification of being rabies free and vaccinated. Won't it?

[uptheos]

mallmagician, on 2011-07-07 15:13:44, said:

I don't know much about the Eu procedure, but I assume it will include certification of being rabies free and vaccinated. Won't it?

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http://animalhealth....avel-scheme.htm

Edited by uptheos, 2011-07-07 15:24:27.

[mallmagician]

As per the website, from Thailand, no quarantine, but a 3 month wait period after blood tests. Great. No stressful quarantine.

[sbk]

Moving this to Pets forum as it will be of interest to all British pet owners in Thailand, not just the ones in Chiang Mai

//MOVED//

[endure]

mallmagician, on 2011-07-07 15:23:34, said:

As per the website, from Thailand, no quarantine, but a 3 month wait period after blood tests. Great. No stressful quarantine.

That sounds reasonable but what happens if it gets infected during the 3 month waiting period?

[mallmagician]

Look up vaccination .....

[endure]

Sorry - Thursday is my "being stupid" day.  

[smokie36]

Hmmm interesting.....

[wolf5370]

The EU has pet passports (which officially list vaccinations) - my parents are expats in Spain and can bring their dogs back to the UK as they are up to date on the vaccinations as per the passport - incidentally they were suprised that on a ferry back from France to the UK with said dogs and passports, no one actually asked to see them at all!

Rabbies still occurs in the UK - a few years ago someone contraced it in Scotland - from bat bite - it was thought that the bat may have flown to the UK! There are cases every few years or so, but mostly from people returning from over seas with a bite. Quarantine is still most effective - I don't see why people need to take their pets about with them - my parents usually have them looked after while they are away (home kenneling - i.e. someone looks after them at their own home and feeds and walks them like a pet - rather than being locked in a cage) - I brought my cat and dog with me from the UK, but I would not take them back. If rabbies does break out in Britain it will be uncontrollable due to urban foxes and dense animal life. I think its a silly move - I do not trust other countries to comply properly - I expect fake passports and paperwork and back handers to back date tests etc.

[F1fanatic]

wolf5370, on 2011-07-08 17:35:32, said:

The EU has pet passports (which officially list vaccinations) - my parents are expats in Spain and can bring their dogs back to the UK as they are up to date on the vaccinations as per the passport - incidentally they were suprised that on a ferry back from France to the UK with said dogs and passports, no one actually asked to see them at all!

Rabbies still occurs in the UK - a few years ago someone contraced it in Scotland - from bat bite - it was thought that the bat may have flown to the UK! There are cases every few years or so, but mostly from people returning from over seas with a bite. Quarantine is still most effective - I don't see why people need to take their pets about with them - my parents usually have them looked after while they are away (home kenneling - i.e. someone looks after them at their own home and feeds and walks them like a pet - rather than being locked in a cage) - I brought my cat and dog with me from the UK, but I would not take them back. If rabbies does break out in Britain it will be uncontrollable due to urban foxes and dense animal life. I think its a silly move - I do not trust other countries to comply properly - I expect fake passports and paperwork and back handers to back date tests etc.

Possibly, but why bother paying through the nose for fake documents if its relatively easy to take your much-loved pets back to the UK legally?

[wolf5370]

F1fanatic, on 2011-07-10 14:34:48, said:

wolf5370, on 2011-07-08 17:35:32, said:

The EU has pet passports (which officially list vaccinations) - my parents are expats in Spain and can bring their dogs back to the UK as they are up to date on the vaccinations as per the passport - incidentally they were suprised that on a ferry back from France to the UK with said dogs and passports, no one actually asked to see them at all!

Rabbies still occurs in the UK - a few years ago someone contraced it in Scotland - from bat bite - it was thought that the bat may have flown to the UK! There are cases every few years or so, but mostly from people returning from over seas with a bite. Quarantine is still most effective - I don't see why people need to take their pets about with them - my parents usually have them looked after while they are away (home kenneling - i.e. someone looks after them at their own home and feeds and walks them like a pet - rather than being locked in a cage) - I brought my cat and dog with me from the UK, but I would not take them back. If rabbies does break out in Britain it will be uncontrollable due to urban foxes and dense animal life. I think its a silly move - I do not trust other countries to comply properly - I expect fake passports and paperwork and back handers to back date tests etc.

Possibly, but why bother paying through the nose for fake documents if its relatively easy to take your much-loved pets back to the UK legally?

because people will also use it for importing animals for breeders, pet shops etc - not really a cheap option with a 6 month quarantine, without it, it opens up the new "industry".

[F1fanatic]

wolf5370, on 2011-07-10 22:05:02, said:

F1fanatic, on 2011-07-10 14:34:48, said:

wolf5370, on 2011-07-08 17:35:32, said:

The EU has pet passports (which officially list vaccinations) - my parents are expats in Spain and can bring their dogs back to the UK as they are up to date on the vaccinations as per the passport - incidentally they were suprised that on a ferry back from France to the UK with said dogs and passports, no one actually asked to see them at all!

Rabbies still occurs in the UK - a few years ago someone contraced it in Scotland - from bat bite - it was thought that the bat may have flown to the UK! There are cases every few years or so, but mostly from people returning from over seas with a bite. Quarantine is still most effective - I don't see why people need to take their pets about with them - my parents usually have them looked after while they are away (home kenneling - i.e. someone looks after them at their own home and feeds and walks them like a pet - rather than being locked in a cage) - I brought my cat and dog with me from the UK, but I would not take them back. If rabbies does break out in Britain it will be uncontrollable due to urban foxes and dense animal life. I think its a silly move - I do not trust other countries to comply properly - I expect fake passports and paperwork and back handers to back date tests etc.

Possibly, but why bother paying through the nose for fake documents if its relatively easy to take your much-loved pets back to the UK legally?

because people will also use it for importing animals for breeders, pet shops etc - not really a cheap option with a 6 month quarantine, without it, it opens up the new "industry".

There are few dog or cat breeds that are not easily available in the UK. Its unlikely therefore that it will be cheaper to import them.

The vet fees necessary to ensure a pet is rabies (and everything else) free, is not that much - so again, why bother paying for a fake document?

Edit - the  6 months quarantine days were far more likely to 'push' a person into bringing pets back to the UK without the necessary vaccinations etc. I read somewhere that one third of quarantined pets died in quarantine.

The 'exotic animal' traders have always ignored the law and will continue to do so...

This new law just helps pet owners to bring their much-loved pets home, having proved that they carry no diseases or rabies. Its a step forward, not a step back.

Edited by F1fanatic, 2011-07-12 15:26:31.

[smokie36]

So what happens if your dog fails the blood test?

Can you feed some pills and try again or is that it?

[smokie36]

smokie36, on 2012-01-29 03:06:17, said:

So what happens if your dog fails the blood test?

Can you feed some pills and try again or is that it?

Further to this the dog in question failed the entry to the UK. The owner is now trying to get him in through the back door via Belgium.

Any info appreciated.