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#101 Phil Conners

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Posted 2011-09-06 14:31:33

Just as an example of what I am getting from AIS 3G, here is a speed test that I just performed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining or anything - at least I can check my email.

Seriously, this is typical speed for me during the business day, and it is why I am very much looking at DTAC or True and ditching AIS once and for all.



I used DTAC for years and GPRS/EDGE was so slow that I decided to try AIS, and for me it has been much better (at least for data, voice is not so good, but that's another story). Still no 3G from either DTAC or AIS here in Pattaya so I don't know about that. FWIW and YMMV.

#102 infernalman7

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Posted 2011-09-06 19:09:44

I find AIS 3G in Bangkok to be extremely dodgy. It can never be as fast as AIS 3G in Chiang Mai, with speeds of 3Mbps up all the time.

Man, I can't wait to go back to Chiang Mai again. After my internship here in Bangkok is done... I shall be happy again (with the real 3G).

#103 lomatopo

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Posted 2011-09-06 19:21:02

I used a Samsung Cooper for a few days and was very impressed with the AIS 3G service in Bangkok. For me it was better than Truemove, but maybe not as good as DTAC. It's only been available for what, 27 days? How dodgy could it be?

#104 bubba

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Posted 2011-09-06 22:13:22

Ouch. That looks bad. It seems like something is amiss. Is this typical for any location? What type of phone do you have?

Here's DTAC... :D


I'm using an iPhone 4, and nothing is amiss. AIS 3G isn't always this bad, but it's routinely this bad during business days, and even worse at times to the point where I get no data down at all. That's exactly what it was like on my drive home from work this evening, when I was sitting in traffic, thought I would check email, but I had nearly zero data throughput. It's not my phone, and I'm not being throttled or anything, because I was in Chiang Mai a couple of days ago and had decent throughput, although nothing like what I have gotten in places like Singapore, UK or USA. I have had snail-like data transfers at numerous places around the city, and it seems to be most common during business days, perhaps when loads of people are out stuck in traffic and killing time doing internet in their cars. And by the way, when AIS first opened their 3G service, it was never like this for me. I'm certain it's a case of inadequate infrastructure.
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Like anything else, your mileage may vary, and late at night I do get reasonable speeds, but even then, only for connections inside Thailand. I am increasingly frustrated by the lack of servicability of AIS 3G. That's why I am going to try out some pre-paid cards from DTAC and True to see if they are any better. They certainly couldn't be any worse than what I am getting from AIS. If anyone is thinking of buying in to AIS 3G, be forewarned.

#105 NanLaew

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Posted 2011-09-06 23:52:21

When my prepaid AIS unlimited data renewed a couple of days ago, I now get
"0 SMS, 0 ISMS, EDGE/GPRS unlimited, 3G 2GB 933MB 950KB, 0 Wifi"
when I interrogate the account (*139#).

There was no reference to 3G last month despite the 3G indicator firing up most of the time. Seems like an auto-update and real 3G connectivity is enabled as prepaid accounts renew or rollover?

#106 lomatopo

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Posted 2011-09-07 08:12:14

When my prepaid AIS unlimited data renewed a couple of days ago, I now get
"0 SMS, 0 ISMS, EDGE/GPRS unlimited, 3G 2GB 933MB 950KB, 0 Wifi"
when I interrogate the account (*139#).

There was no reference to 3G last month despite the 3G indicator firing up most of the time. Seems like an auto-update and real 3G connectivity is enabled as prepaid accounts renew or rollover?


It seems like for those with existing data plans, which remained the same (price, volume/hours) when 3G was launched, get 3G added without having to do anything.

#107 lomatopo

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Posted 2011-09-07 09:21:16

That's why I am going to try out some pre-paid cards from DTAC and True to see if they are any better.


You can get SIMs for ~ 50 baht, and both Truemove and Happy offer 1-day packages for ~ 50 baht. Although you may want to evaluate the service from each for more than 24 hours?

Just to make it more confusing, you might also consider Truemove H, although this is currently just post-paid.

#108 4evermaat

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Posted 2011-09-07 10:09:21

the AIS 3G coverage isnt as full as I would like (nothing great in Wong Wien Yai, mostly nothing at all), I used it at Siam Paragon to skype out and the call was clear.

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Posted 2011-09-07 10:15:47

It's crazy. I have unlimited data plan with AIG. Went to the AIS store last weekend and was told the 3G is only a trial and I cannot get 3G activated. <deleted>?



#110 lomatopo

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Posted 2011-09-07 15:16:45

It's crazy. I have unlimited data plan with AIG. Went to the AIS store last weekend and was told the 3G is only a trial and I cannot get 3G activated. <deleted>?



You have pre-paid service? The 799 baht/month unlimited data plan? You have a 3G 900 Mhz-capable phone? AIS/One-2-Call kept the same price on the unlimited plan when they added 3G. Based on reports here, those with the unlimited data plans have had 3G added automatically. Maybe best to ring 1175 and ask a CSR for help?

#111 Phil Conners

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Posted 2011-09-08 12:39:01

Seems AIS is now providing 3G in Pattaya. Today my phone comes up with "H" (Soi Siam Country Club) and I heard from a friend the same is the case in town.

Still only getting 243kbps down - 375kbps up, but that could be limited by my plan - and still much better than before.

#112 richsilver

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Posted 2011-09-08 17:26:04

Seems AIS is now providing 3G in Pattaya. Today my phone comes up with "H" (Soi Siam Country Club) and I heard from a friend the same is the case in town.

Still only getting 243kbps down - 375kbps up, but that could be limited by my plan - and still much better than before.

Wow! Me too. I just checked and I have 3G on my iPhone at View Talay 2, Jomtien. I'll be signing up for a plan soon.

#113 lomatopo

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Posted 2011-09-08 17:42:56

Seems AIS is now providing 3G in Pattaya. Today my phone comes up with "H" (Soi Siam Country Club) and I heard from a friend the same is the case in town.

Still only getting 243kbps down - 375kbps up, but that could be limited by my plan - and still much better than before.



This may be the branded "EDGE +", which runs at 384 Kbps. You should be able to get 3G, perhaps with a simple call to 1175 as your existing 2G plan may transition directly to a similarly priced 3G plan, or by subscribing to a 3G plan. You can do this by sending a service command.

* 133 * 23 # SEND , gets you 2 GB for 550 baht/min

http://www.ais.co.th/vas/datatips/th/

#114 Phil Conners

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Posted 2011-09-08 20:29:03


Seems AIS is now providing 3G in Pattaya. Today my phone comes up with "H" (Soi Siam Country Club) and I heard from a friend the same is the case in town.

Still only getting 243kbps down - 375kbps up, but that could be limited by my plan - and still much better than before.



This may be the branded "EDGE +", which runs at 384 Kbps. You should be able to get 3G, perhaps with a simple call to 1175 as your existing 2G plan may transition directly to a similarly priced 3G plan, or by subscribing to a 3G plan. You can do this by sending a service command.

* 133 * 23 # SEND , gets you 2 GB for 550 baht/min

http://www.ais.co.th/vas/datatips/th/


Actually I don't need mobile internet that much. Most of the time I am either home or with friends or otherwise in places with Wifi access.

I currently have the 199 baht/month SmartPhone package from AIS with 100MB GPRS/EDGE. This is really all I need. In fact, I might even change to the 50 baht/month Hot Promotion with 20 hours GPRS/EDGE. Of course I'll have to switch GPRS/EDGE on and off as needed but I can live with that.

Of course the few times I need it it'd be nice if it was fast, but for the little I use it, it's not worth the extra cost for me.

#115 richsilver

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Posted 2011-09-09 17:22:12

I called AIS this afternoon to sign up for the 350 baht 1G package and the very helpful (excellent English) lady told me that they had not "officially" opened 3G yet in Pattaya even though many people were seeing the 3G on their phones. She said I could sign up for the service (I did) but I might experience some down times as they were still making adjustments.

So far I am disappointed at the speed (about 300 down and 400 up), but hopefully that will improve. I am in Jomtien and I have seen the 3G signal all over Jomtien today.

#116 Jayman

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Posted 2011-09-10 00:18:58

I am an AIS 12call customer in Pattaya living on the east side of sukumvit and I have the edge/wifi 250 hr package. Today I noticed I was getting 3G connection and tested the speeds at 360kbps both up/down. Now I don't pay for 3G but I'm certainly happy to know I was getting it and able to use it from my home since not even True 3G works out here. I will be watching for future developments on this.

#117 bubba

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Posted 2011-09-16 12:04:36

AIS 3G just seems to keep degrading for me, to the point where it is nearly useless. Was stuck in traffic yesterday evening around 6PM at Asoke-Sukhumvit, with full signal strength and 3G indicated, but \ could not get any bandwidth at all to simply do a reply to a very urgent email. I couldn't load a single web page....nothing...nada. Completely frustrating! About fifteen minutes on, I noticed that my iPhone showed an EDGE connection rather than 3G and I was able to eek out enough bandwidth to send an email, but no more than that.

I seriously need to get switched out of AIS 3G, and be warned if you are thinking of subscribing to them.

#118 Phil Conners

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Posted 2011-09-16 12:30:31

AIS only just started offering 3G and is still in the process of rolling it out. Give them a chance. Anyway, if you have a 900 MHz phone you don't have much choice now, do you?

#119 bubba

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Posted 2011-09-16 21:48:18

AIS only just started offering 3G and is still in the process of rolling it out. Give them a chance. Anyway, if you have a 900 MHz phone you don't have much choice now, do you?


I have given them a chance. When they first began switching on 3G, at least the speed was workable. It's only getting worse and worse now that they have oversold their 3G service. And it gets so bad that I cannot even send a short reply to an urgent email. What good is that? It's even worse than when we only had EDGE.

As for choice, I do have an iPhone 4, which would give me UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz) and GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz), so True and DTAC are definitely possible choices.

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Posted 2011-09-17 06:36:18

AIS 3G just seems to keep degrading for me, to the point where it is nearly useless. Was stuck in traffic yesterday evening around 6PM at Asoke-Sukhumvit, with full signal strength and 3G indicated, but \ could not get any bandwidth at all to simply do a reply to a very urgent email. I couldn't load a single web page....nothing...nada. Completely frustrating! About fifteen minutes on, I noticed that my iPhone showed an EDGE connection rather than 3G and I was able to eek out enough bandwidth to send an email, but no more than that.

I seriously need to get switched out of AIS 3G, and be warned if you are thinking of subscribing to them.



I still can't figure out if AIS 3G works for you, with multi-Mega bits per second speeds, in any other locations or at any other times? You've related two instances, and in this latest one; "stuck in traffic at Asoke", it's easy to imagine the base-stations there getting overloaded as there are thousands of people (MRT, BTS, Bus, auto) all saturating one location. I'm not certain DTAC or Truemove would be any better in that situation? But you should try DTAC and Truemove SIMs as it is so easy to do, and if happy you can port your number.

Also, you do get free WiFi, so maybe sort out the username (typically your AIS number) and password, and check for WiFi APs when desperate for connectivity. I am sure AIS and/or 3BB have APs all along Sukhumvit.

#121 petedk

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Posted 2011-09-17 09:27:16


AIS 3G just seems to keep degrading for me, to the point where it is nearly useless. Was stuck in traffic yesterday evening around 6PM at Asoke-Sukhumvit, with full signal strength and 3G indicated, but \ could not get any bandwidth at all to simply do a reply to a very urgent email. I couldn't load a single web page....nothing...nada. Completely frustrating! About fifteen minutes on, I noticed that my iPhone showed an EDGE connection rather than 3G and I was able to eek out enough bandwidth to send an email, but no more than that.

I seriously need to get switched out of AIS 3G, and be warned if you are thinking of subscribing to them.



I still can't figure out if AIS 3G works for you, with multi-Mega bits per second speeds, in any other locations or at any other times? You've related two instances, and in this latest one; "stuck in traffic at Asoke", it's easy to imagine the base-stations there getting overloaded as there are thousands of people (MRT, BTS, Bus, auto) all saturating one location. I'm not certain DTAC or Truemove would be any better in that situation? But you should try DTAC and Truemove SIMs as it is so easy to do, and if happy you can port your number.

Also, you do get free WiFi, so maybe sort out the username (typically your AIS number) and password, and check for WiFi APs when desperate for connectivity. I am sure AIS and/or 3BB have APs all along Sukhumvit.


I too have an unlimited data plan with AIS and often get good speeds at Asoke. Yesterday however, I seemed to have problems loading webpages in the afternoon. Maybe just some technical problems.

As for WiFi, I seem to have difficulty in locating either AIS or 3BB access points. I can locate True almost everywhere and at the moment True WiFi is super fast.

Edited by petedk, 2011-09-17 09:27:50.


#122 lomatopo

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Posted 2011-09-17 09:57:20

I too have an unlimited data plan with AIS and often get good speeds at Asoke. Yesterday however, I seemed to have problems loading webpages in the afternoon. Maybe just some technical problems.

As for WiFi, I seem to have difficulty in locating either AIS or 3BB access points. I can locate True almost everywhere and at the moment True WiFi is super fast.


Truemove claim 30,000 WiFi hotspots nationwide, while 3BB claims 37,000 38,000. YMMV AIS 3G users can "roam" onto the 3BB WiFi network.

I've had much, much better performance with AIS-3BB WiFi than True, but my recent AIS-3BB WiFi experience is very limited, just a few days, while I used True for ~ 8 months. It seems I could always find a True WiFi hotspot, and connect to it, but then it often (not always) would drop in and out continuously, across multiple locations.

#123 HardenedSoul

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Posted 2011-09-17 14:48:07


Did you try out a Truemove SIM to insure it works with your phone and 3G? I guess the port can take 3 ~ 5 business days? But maybe you are using the new Truemove SIM now? And 3G works fine?


Haven't tried it yet but as I bought the phone in Thailand from a reputable retailer, I've no reason to suspect that the new SIM won't be able to receive 3G. I tried my AIS sim with my old Nokia N86 and I could get 3G no problem. I assumed that if my Desire S couldn't get AIS 3G when my Nokia could, that was all the proof I needed.


Thought I'd confirm that TruemoveH is working fine and with decent speeds.

Praying that I'll have no reason to speak to ANY Thai customer service operation for at least a month, though . . .

#124 lomatopo

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Posted 2011-09-20 09:03:02

I just started trialing a Samsung Galaxy S2 with AIS 3G and have to say the performance has been very bad. Much like some of bubba's experiences. Sometimes I see an "r" next to the signal strength bars which typically means "roaming" is in force, even though data roaming was not selected. (I know about the 3G roaming agreement between AIS and TOT, I did force 900 Mhz 3G only which was of little help, but no "r".) I seem to bounce around from H+ (3G) to E (EDGE) frequently. I seem unable to browse the internet, as I time out (similar to a DNS issue). Even if I force EDGE I cannot browse a website. AIS was helpful but seemed to be saying that I was getting a weak signal.

Occasionally I could get a browser to work, and even get the Speedtest app. to work, where I was seeing ~ 1.1 Mbps down and ~ 60 Kbps up.

This has only been a few days, from one static location, and there may be some issues with the SGS2 modem firmware (original KH1, with several newer versions available) so just an interim report. I'm leaning towards recommending Truemove H or DTAC for this phone. A DTAC SIM with 3G worked fine, ~ 6 Mbps down, and ~ 2 Mbps up and no connectivity issues.

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Posted 2011-09-20 12:00:11

I was in Bangkok couple a days ago and ais gprs/edge didn't worked at all. Or yes it worked but I was many times connected to GSM 1800, not TH GSM and my aircard shows roaming. And when this happened, data would not move. Manual network selection solved the problem.

Edited by hullupullo, 2011-09-20 12:01:17.






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