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[meatboy]

now i know why my brother in law is so flipping miserable told the mrs.no more leo in this house.

[transam]

edwardandtubs, on 2011-07-26 23:06:22, said:

gkinbkk, on 2011-07-26 22:19:37, said:

In the Can

Did you even read that article before pasting it? It's about cans, not beer and anyway says that formaldehyde is NOT in modern cans. So clearly there is no formaldehyde in lager nowadays.

Can you be sure of that in LOS.

[KRS1]

try this, get a glass of water about half full then open a bottle of Leo. Stick the hole of the bottle directly into the glass of water, and hold the bottle upside down until what appears to be beer stops coming out.

Something comes out and when you drink the beer it will taste different with no more hangover. If you do it right no water should get into the beer.

Yes, Leo has been giving me headaches too, switched to Heineken.

[julesdick]

KRS1, on 2011-08-22 22:42:45, said:

try this, get a glass of water about half full then open a bottle of Leo. Stick the hole of the bottle directly into the glass of water, and hold the bottle upside down until what appears to be beer stops coming out.

Something comes out and when you drink the beer it will taste different with no more hangover. If you do it right no water should get into the beer.

Yes, Leo has been giving me headaches too, switched to Heineken.

Could you say that again in different words please. Its not making sense to me but sounds very interesting.

[PattayaParent]

edwardandtubs, on 2011-07-20 23:25:42, said:

Gonsalviz, on 2011-07-20 23:06:39, said:

Haven't had a problem with LEO but then I don't think I have ever drank more than 4 large bottles at a sitting.
Now I do Blend 285 and soda. Just enough whiskey to sweeten the soda. Can drink all day and stay hydrated too.

I'm dubious about the claim that the stuff is "blended by experts from Scotland". I have an image of them wandering around Soi Cowboy at 2 AM looking for drunk Scotsmen to mix the stuff up for them.

I've noticed that Black Cat has re-appeared. That used to be my whisky of choice before it disappeared.

[sabaijai]

rixalex, on 2011-07-21 16:24:01, said:

rgs2001uk, on 2011-07-21 15:15:30, said:

I used to have similair problems, have come to the conclusion that all beers made in Thailand are crap.
I switched to imported German beers and the problems noted above have long gone, ok they cost more, a small price to pay to be able to wake up headache/hangover free the next morning.
Since switching to imported beers, its been like coming out of a haze.

Problem for me isn't cost but taste. I really like Leo and the only readily available imported option for me is Heineken, which i hate.

Federbrau i do like, but my Seven doesn't stock it, and i have no idea whether it would be any improvement in terms of beating headaches.

Just a detail, Heineken sold in Thailand is brewed in Thailand, by Thai Asia Pacific Brewery, not imported.

http://www.tapb.co.t...duct/index.html

[nocturn]

i find that with both leo and singha i am hungover before i have finished the first large bottle. Wont touch the stuff.

[nocturn]

transam, on 2011-07-24 19:16:24, said:

, Dee ma.

good dog?

[tutsiwarrior]

any update on the bottled Leo beer quality issue? I'm back at home in Suphan for a few months and Leo useta be the only beer I'd drink when we 'go out to eat' at various food stalls in our vicinity...I was at the food hall at the Lotus in Suphan town and saw that local thais were sitting with large bottles of Leo (I was drinking Chang draft which isn't bad...) waiting for the legendary Suphan homeboy Boon Mee to miraculously appear...

[fredob43]

tutsiwarrior, on 2011-09-25 10:24:13, said:

any update on the bottled Leo beer quality issue? I'm back at home in Suphan for a few months and Leo useta be the only beer I'd drink when we 'go out to eat' at various food stalls in our vicinity...I was at the food hall at the Lotus in Suphan town and saw that local thais were sitting with large bottles of Leo (I was drinking Chang draft which isn't bad...) waiting for the legendary Suphan homeboy Boon Mee to miraculously appear...

Sorry I cant be of any help on that one as all of us have now changed over to Tiger. Give it Leo a try if you don't get problem's your sorted it may have been a bad batch who know's, but if it can happen once it can happen again, and I'm not taking a chance's. Quality control is crap here at the best of time. Let us know how you get on.

[songhklasid]

I'm wondering if it's the beer temperature, I always insist on my beer yen maak (very cold) if i'm out, If  enjoying a couple of cleansing ales at home, I always get 10 baht of ice, & turn the bathroom sink into a holding basin full of ice cold tinnies, let sit for 5-10 minutes, then enjoy, maybe the problem is combination of warm beer & dehydration ?
regards songhklasid

[edwardandtubs]

Cheap beer is cheap for a reason. You must be mad to drink the concoction of chemicals that is Thai beer when for a few baht extra you can buy the 100% natural Tiger or Heineken.

[transam]

edwardandtubs, on 2011-09-25 18:20:54, said:

Cheap beer is cheap for a reason. You must be mad to drink the concoction of chemicals that is Thai beer when for a few baht extra you can buy the 100% natural Tiger or Heineken.

You sure !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Brewed in Thailand, nothing like home brewed stuff. Look on the tin.  

[rgs2001uk]

transam, on 2011-09-27 18:48:28, said:

edwardandtubs, on 2011-09-25 18:20:54, said:

Cheap beer is cheap for a reason. You must be mad to drink the concoction of chemicals that is Thai beer when for a few baht extra you can buy the 100% natural Tiger or Heineken.

You sure !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Brewed in Thailand, nothing like home brewed stuff. Look on the tin.  

Would love to know where I can buy, 'for a few baht extra you can buy the 100% natural Tiger or Heineken.'

Have stated onhere before I have long since reached the conclusion all beer brewed here is crap.
Must agree with the comment, 'You must be mad to drink the concoction of chemicals that is Thai beer'.
If you are going to drink Thai beer, just buy the cheapest, Archa? why pay the extra for so called Heineken.

Funnily enough dont the makers of Chang (another quality beverage so loved by balloon chasers) also make a brew by the name of Federbrau that claims to be naturally brewed in a similair fashion to Amarit (whatever became of that)?

[edwardandtubs]

rgs2001uk, on 2011-09-27 19:38:04, said:

Would love to know where I can buy, 'for a few baht extra you can buy the 100% natural Tiger or Heineken.'

Have stated onhere before I have long since reached the conclusion all beer brewed here is crap.
Must agree with the comment, 'You must be mad to drink the concoction of chemicals that is Thai beer'.
If you are going to drink Thai beer, just buy the cheapest, Archa? why pay the extra for so called Heineken.

Funnily enough dont the makers of Chang (another quality beverage so loved by balloon chasers) also make a brew by the name of Federbrau that claims to be naturally brewed in a similair fashion to Amarit (whatever became of that)?

True, Heineken and Tiger are brewed here in Thailand (by the same brewer) but under the supervision of the parent companies. Both companies have built an international brand name on the idea that wherever you are in the world, you're getting the same 100% natural beer, so I doubt they would let their Thai brewery screw things up and tarnish the brand. Federbrau, on the other hand, has no international parent company so I wouldn't trust their word that it's a 100% natural beer.

Edited by edwardandtubs, 2011-09-27 21:25:17.

[moe666]

gkinbkk, on 2011-07-26 08:04:40, said:

Most 'chemical' beers have formaldehyde in them. Tiger is no exception and a Tiger hangover, to me, is unequaled. I hate the stuff.

The best beers in Asia ironically are from the the poorer countries i.e Beer Lao and Angkor as they do not have the money to invest in brewing technologies i.e. putting chemicals in beer....brewed the old fashioned way!

I agree about Asahi though, very nice beer. 6 months back it used to be priced between the local sh#te and beers like Heineken but I notice as of late the price has jumped significantly in our local supermarkets......

Have you ever seen the beer Lao brewery on the outskirts of Vientine. frm you Post I assume not. Very modern bldg and I believe established and ran by a european beer producer. Formaldehyde is usually put into beers that will be shipped long distances and need a long shelf life, I think export beers fit this bill.

[moe666]

I will check with my friend in bangkok when I am there we are both Leo drinkers. Have any of you guys checked the Leo label and know who the brewer is, if not, it is Singh. I have been drinking Leo for years and no hang over. Also check the different labels on a Chang each one has a different alcohol content. Saw this on a brochure in a Bangkok Restraurant

[Monkeypants]

On a bottle of Leo,
Usually above the "fill date " there is a number, this number has a range of 1 to 6,
I have been told that this number represents the quality of it , 1 being the best. And I have also been told that its the number represents the factory where brewed/bottled.
One thing is for sure a bottle with a number 1, tastes way different to a number 6.
Maybe this is part of the problem for the OP.?
But then again, if anyone else has a theory for these numbers?

[fredob43]

Monkeypants, on 2011-09-28 07:20:16, said:

On a bottle of Leo,
Usually above the "fill date " there is a number, this number has a range of 1 to 6,
I have been told that this number represents the quality of it , 1 being the best. And I have also been told that its the number represents the factory where brewed/bottled.
One thing is for sure a bottle with a number 1, tastes way different to a number 6.
Maybe this is part of the problem for the OP.?
But then again, if anyone else has a theory for these numbers?

No theory for the No: all I know is that myself and all my friend's had problem's with the stuff "Leo" gut's ache and head ache's It was nothing to do with hang over's it would happen after just one large one, and as stated I have been drinking it for year's. Since we have been drinking Tiger not one's of use has had a problem. I put in the Op to see if anyone was having the same problem's as we had, but after it has gone round the house's and no one seem's be of the same consensus who know's what it was. My only thought is that there must have been some dodgy stuff on the market. As with all thing's here in the LOS quality control what's that.

[KRS1]

Anyone remember SUPER LEO when it came out more than 10 years ago?

That stuff was designed and engineered for only one reason - to get you farked up ! Strong stuff !

[scd]

Am slowly getting back on to Leo after the headache problem. So far so good.

[WebBangkok]

I love Leo, its my favourite beer since I can't get my favourite Aussie beers here.

[jamora]

moe666, on 2011-09-28 06:17:59, said:

gkinbkk, on 2011-07-26 08:04:40, said:

Most 'chemical' beers have formaldehyde in them. Tiger is no exception and a Tiger hangover, to me, is unequaled. I hate the stuff.

The best beers in Asia ironically are from the the poorer countries i.e Beer Lao and Angkor as they do not have the money to invest in brewing technologies i.e. putting chemicals in beer....brewed the old fashioned way!

I agree about Asahi though, very nice beer. 6 months back it used to be priced between the local sh#te and beers like Heineken but I notice as of late the price has jumped significantly in our local supermarkets......

Have you ever seen the beer Lao brewery on the outskirts of Vientine. frm you Post I assume not. Very modern bldg and I believe established and ran by a european beer producer. Formaldehyde is usually put into beers that will be shipped long distances and need a long shelf life, I think export beers fit this bill.

Yep, both Angkor and Lao are managed by Carlsberg, which is why they make good beer. It is the only good 'local' beer in Thailand, along with Carlsberg from Malaysia.
The domestic beer producers really have to improve in order to stay competitive in the long run.

[tort]

Any updates on this?