Posted 2011-08-19 15:29:09
 GrahamF, on 2011-08-18 20:18:36, said:
jdinasia, on 2011-08-18 19:30:08, said:
I, overall, agree with Sheryl. She seems ,however, to rule out something that I wouldn't. Alcohol can mask the symptoms of other neurological disorders that show in the absence of alcohol. The course that she suggests should be followed 100% though!
Her approach to the disease concept seems to mirror that of AA and a bit less of the modern definition of alcohol dependancy but there is still a lot of discussion between the three fields that deal extensively with addictions (medical-phsychiatric/psychological/CD counseling.)
If the drinker in question goes days without drinking then stopping isn't the issue and therefore true physical addiction isn't the issue. Alcohol clears the system pretty rapidly. Staying stopped (in other words alcoholism) is still the most likely cause of his shakes but not the only possible cause.
I know a lot of alcoholics, myself included, who could stop for days, weeks, even months at a time at one time or another in their drinking careers. The issue is actually when we start to drink, that's when we can't stop. One drink is too much and 1000 drinks is never enough.
You have been brainwashed by the happy clappy brigade.
You don't have a drink for weeks or months at a time and still think you are an alcoholic??
Sound more like a nanny holic.....
Posted 2011-08-20 08:23:56
QED, on 2011-08-19 15:29:09, said:
GrahamF, on 2011-08-18 20:18:36, said:
jdinasia, on 2011-08-18 19:30:08, said:
I, overall, agree with Sheryl. She seems ,however, to rule out something that I wouldn't. Alcohol can mask the symptoms of other neurological disorders that show in the absence of alcohol. The course that she suggests should be followed 100% though!
Her approach to the disease concept seems to mirror that of AA and a bit less of the modern definition of alcohol dependancy but there is still a lot of discussion between the three fields that deal extensively with addictions (medical-phsychiatric/psychological/CD counseling.)
If the drinker in question goes days without drinking then stopping isn't the issue and therefore true physical addiction isn't the issue. Alcohol clears the system pretty rapidly. Staying stopped (in other words alcoholism) is still the most likely cause of his shakes but not the only possible cause.
I know a lot of alcoholics, myself included, who could stop for days, weeks, even months at a time at one time or another in their drinking careers. The issue is actually when we start to drink, that's when we can't stop. One drink is too much and 1000 drinks is never enough.
You have been brainwashed by the happy clappy brigade.
You don't have a drink for weeks or months at a time and still think you are an alcoholic??
Sound more like a nanny holic.....
QED,
For your enlightenment, please read Sheryl's definition of alcoholism in another thread-
http://www.thaivisa....ost__p__4629297
Alcoholism can also get progressively worse. I was a binge drinker for many years, but ended up drinking 24/7 at the end. You may note in my post I stated "at one time or another" I was able to stop for periods of time. However, when I did have a drink, I didn't stop until I basically passed out.
Posted 2011-08-21 02:37:42
GrahamF, on 2011-08-20 08:23:56, said:
QED, on 2011-08-19 15:29:09, said:
GrahamF, on 2011-08-18 20:18:36, said:
jdinasia, on 2011-08-18 19:30:08, said:
I, overall, agree with Sheryl. She seems ,however, to rule out something that I wouldn't. Alcohol can mask the symptoms of other neurological disorders that show in the absence of alcohol. The course that she suggests should be followed 100% though!
Her approach to the disease concept seems to mirror that of AA and a bit less of the modern definition of alcohol dependancy but there is still a lot of discussion between the three fields that deal extensively with addictions (medical-phsychiatric/psychological/CD counseling.)
If the drinker in question goes days without drinking then stopping isn't the issue and therefore true physical addiction isn't the issue. Alcohol clears the system pretty rapidly. Staying stopped (in other words alcoholism) is still the most likely cause of his shakes but not the only possible cause.
I know a lot of alcoholics, myself included, who could stop for days, weeks, even months at a time at one time or another in their drinking careers. The issue is actually when we start to drink, that's when we can't stop. One drink is too much and 1000 drinks is never enough.
You have been brainwashed by the happy clappy brigade.
You don't have a drink for weeks or months at a time and still think you are an alcoholic??
Sound more like a nanny holic.....
QED,
For your enlightenment, please read Sheryl's definition of alcoholism in another thread-
http://www.thaivisa....ost__p__4629297
Alcoholism can also get progressively worse. I was a binge drinker for many years, but ended up drinking 24/7 at the end. You may note in my post I stated "at one time or another" I was able to stop for periods of time. However, when I did have a drink, I didn't stop until I basically passed out.
I was - amazed; dismayed; perplexed - when I discovered, late in my drinking career, that other people could go home half way through the evening.
I was renowned for being last home first in the next day,
Personally, I'm not a "master race, special class of people" believer in alcoholism; most of my friends, when they have had a few, take up a bit of a thirst; but none to the same extent as I do, nor to the same risk of mishap.
In my experience, some people's feeling of satisfaction - of "enough" increases faster than their drink-induced thirst, and for some people it's slower. And that changes over time - as you become used to drinking.
SC
Posted 2012-03-24 19:39:03
your hands shake when your sober because your body has become dependent on alcohol. I would advise you really try and have a break. It will only get worse. Soon you will wake up every morning from a night out with a fever that will last all day. This is called alcohol withdrawl. its not very fun.
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