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[camerata]

How is the air today? I'll be in CM in 2 days and my lungs have already been damaged by Bangkok pollution.

And how about Mae Hong Son? I'll be going there too.

[millwall_fan]

Mae Hong Son is often worse than CM due to its vicinity to the Burmese border, from where some of the burning problems emanate. I must be one of the 60% that doesn't really get affected by the pollution, but I worry about my young son.

[tijnebijn]

Sigh , indeed the quality of air is worse  , my chest is feeling bruised a bit , my son is coughing for approx 5 days and my darling has severe headaches , something has changed abruptly to the worse lately .  We saw long stretched forest fires between Mae Teng and Chiangdao last weekend , together with the gradual air pollution in Ampoeh Muang Chiangmai ....enough said .

Hope a unexpected monsoon will blow over soon .......

Edited by tijnebijn, 2012-02-13 14:17:59.

[MESmith]

Today seems especially bad.  Tried working in the garden this morning, but gave up after a few minutes of cutting.  The air just "felt wrong".  eyes felt sore,

The pcd website now directs to http://aqmthai.com/    2 sites in CM - 35t & 36t.   Both showing high levels of ozone. a68 is Lamphun - showing high pm10 levels.  btw this site updates throughout the day, & shows locations on googlemaps.

[Semper]

Yes, extra smoggy today. Here's a view of Doi Suthep. Enjoy.

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[el jefe]

While the readings aren't as high, the air is looking the worst year since the horrible Feb-march of about 4 years ago when the PM10 hit 300+ in CM.

Here's the translation of Mr Smith's link:
http://translate.goo...://aqmthai.com/

Since the PCD site went down on 31 Jan, will Priceless have the records for the missing two weeks? If not, his statistics going forward will be less meaningful.

My question is -- Since I keep reading, on this thread and others, that our local pollution is caused by burning in other places, who is blaming CM for the pollution from all the burning I see around the province?

[CobraSnakeNecktie]

oh joy.. let the denial festival begin.. It's game on.

Let's check in with our regulars.

Priceless = it's really not bad compared to other places
UG = Doesn't bother me

anybody else want to chime in?

[WinnieTheKhwai]

MESmith, on 2012-02-15 15:36:14, said:

The pcd website now directs to http://aqmthai.com/

Awesome site!!!!!!  Thank you for posting.  This is really great, and Priceless will love it!  So much more data, so you can see it hour by hour, and graph to your heart's content..

Here's this month; indeed we're in a spike today:

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[MESmith]

WinnieTheKhwai, on 2012-02-15 18:09:05, said:

indeed we're in a spike today:

Or the edge of a "plateau"?

[chiang mai]

I'd throw in my ten cents worth but frankly there's little need, there now seems to be a much more balanced and appropriate set of views on the subject of CM pollution, five years ago or so it was all one way, there's no pollution per se/it's not at all bad/no cause of health problems! Today folks seem much more open to admiting the truth and that's positive, even to the extent that much of the pollution is imported which five years ago was a laughable concept.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

MESmith, on 2012-02-15 18:20:20, said:

WinnieTheKhwai, on 2012-02-15 18:09:05, said:

indeed we're in a spike today:

Or the edge of a "plateau"?

Possibly; you never know until you get there. It does seem to be clearing up this evening, just visually looking at things further away.

Local burning in particular areas may add to it in some places; I walked out of the office and in that spot it was really bad; but I could see the mountain so I knew it had to be something local.

Anyway, spikes and plateaus will increase in intensity and duration over the next 5-6 weeks; no escaping that. (Well, short of going to Pattaya. There's worse things than that.  )

[CobraSnakeNecktie]

WTK has it right.. We don't know until it happens.

Last year at this time it started to rain and rain consistently. It was a great surprise and kept the air clean. I had decided to stay and loved it.

If it doesn't rain for the next 8 or so weeks then it's going to be hell.

I am flying out in one week but will still pray for rain.... Maybe the good luck of last year will hold.

[mcgriffith]

I live on the 11th floor of an apt bldg almost at the end of Huay Kaew Road. About 1 km from the main gate to CMU.
Wed morning I woke up, looked out...and could barely make out Wat Doi Suthep, which is almost always clearly visible.
Looking to the north towards Mae Rim....I could see about 2 nautical miles, to use aviation terms. Absolutely hazed out, could barely make out tall buildings at that distance. Mountains to the north of course completely invisible.
Tonight, there was a rather large brushfire on the mountain to the north and west of the Royal Thai Naval Station. Burned from about dusk- was a rather large fireline with a huge plume of smoke. As the wind here was blowing from the NNE, all the smoke from this fire was billowing over the area around the soccer field near the entrance of CMU. It almost looked as though a few shophouses were on fire in the area, if one didn't know and see where the smoke was coming from on the mountain.
If one lives downtown, at ground level, and your whole frame of reference is the tree across the street, or perhaps in a moo baan blessed with prevailing winds that blow a certain way....probably you might think this is all nonsense, this smoke thing.
It was really bad today, worst I've seen since the year the sun went dark midday a few years ago.
And to see this happening, this early in mid-Feb, doesn't portend well for the next month or so until May rain starts.
It's logical that with all the rain we had last rainy season, there is a lot more vegetation...and a lot more vegetation to be burned off.

[Tywais]

mcgriffith, on 2012-02-16 00:33:44, said:

It was really bad today, worst I've seen since the year the sun went dark midday a few years ago.  

Definitely the worse this year today.  Out near Hang Dong this morning the haze was thick and my eyes are still burning and the smell of smoke permeating my house.

[jonwilly]

I have lived in CM for 11 years now.
From my condo 8th floor, there where some years when I could look down and see the blanket of 'Smog' over CM town.
I was never really affected by the Pollution until the winter the Royal Flower show opened.
That year the massive number of Tour Buses seemed to me, to increase the ground level pollution and I have been susceptible since.
For last two years I have gone away to the seaside, Cha Am.
Plans are advanced for a quick move now.

john

[Thailand]

Doi Suthep has disappeared usually a fairly good indicator that the burning season is in full swing.

Played golf at Hang Dong this morning smoke and stink all around. Guess the pollution police can't see the fires burning for the smog!

Er indoors coughing well!


Stay way unless you really need to come here.

Edited by Thailand, 2012-02-16 11:05:45.

[chiang mai]

From where I live on the eigth floor in Watkate (Good View/Riverside area) I can normally see Doi Suthep in much detail, today I can just see RAM, not good.

[Tywais]

Satellite fire map.  Since this is a linked map so when it updates on the remote site it will automatically update in this topic.  May need to reload page to get the changes.

[Tywais]

Since there are 3 ongoing topics I felt it would be better to centralize the information into a single topic shown below.

http://www.thaivisa....012-chiang-mai/

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