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Posted 2012-01-26 10:34:14
 necronx99, on 2012-01-25 18:52:44, said:
A built in toe breaker/stubber?
Naam, on 2012-01-25 19:02:50, said:
the foundations for a parrot cage / fire place / baby crib / wine cooler / piranha aquarium / dog house? 
tell tell tell Mr BoJ! this is not fair. how can we sleep tonight without knowing??? thaiIand, on 2012-01-25 20:44:01, said:
its either a fireplace, an indor compost or a massive cat liter
Crossy, on 2012-01-25 20:57:36, said:
Probably the base for the bathroom suite he's bringing from Saudi, actually I'm sure I've seen something similar on one of those S&M sites, not that I ever visit these of course.
Sorry chaps. None of the above.
Posted 2012-01-26 10:58:59
BTW. Had some PM's asking how many windows for the 25k baht. There are 5 the size in the picture and 2 bigger ones in the kitchen,
Posted 2012-01-26 11:09:24
Don't know if you remember me pondering over what to do with the rain water that meets from the two pitched roofs at the front. Had a few ideas i.e. putting on a rain chain (whatever the real name is) and letting the water just flow into a drain on the floor, or putting another small roof underneath. In the end I opted for this
The two front pillars are also being "fattened" up.
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There will be two smaller pillars also built and the pillar with the drain inside will form the entrance steps.
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Posted 2012-01-26 11:54:15
House is coming along Mr. B congrats
As to the roof runoff....Yes a chain etc would not be sufficient for that amount I would think.
You might have a mess right in front of the porch
Here we call that type of framing a butterfly roof. It is an older design & not used these days due to inherent problems
in a large downpour. Just be sure your gutter & downspouts are large enough to evacuate a large downpour without resistance.
At least in your case the butterfly section looks to be only outside the home. So even if you have a problem it will not affect the inside
I have not been keeping up with your thread lately but as I said you have come a long way since I last looked.
It looks like metal roofing you have there & if so hopefully you have large flash pans at the valleys...14-20" wide is nice
Also that they made no screw holes near the center areas where water runs when attaching the pans or the roof on top of the pans
Chok Dee & looking forward to your completion
Edited by flying, 2012-01-26 12:05:10.
Posted 2012-01-26 12:19:21
flying, on 2012-01-26 11:54:15, said:
House is coming along Mr. B congrats
As to the roof runoff....Yes a chain etc would not be sufficient for that amount I would think.
Here we call that type of framing a butterfly roof. It is an older design & not used these days due to inherent problems
in a large downpour. Just be sure your gutter & downspouts are large enough to evacuate a large downpour without resistance.
At least in your case the butterfly section looks to be only outside the home. So even if you have a problem it will not affect the inside
I have not been keeping up with your thread lately but as I said you have come a long way since I last looked.
It looks like metal roofing you have there & if so hopefully you have large flash pans at the valleys...14-20" wide is nice
Also that they made no screw holes near the center areas where water runs when attaching the pans or the roof on top of the pans
Chok Dee & looking forward to your completion
Cheers flying.
Yeah the "butterfly" design was an attempt to keep it looking a little different to what is around at the moment. Next door just has a box with a straight up and down roof and doesn't really have any character IMO. This way obviously costs more but i think it's worth it.
As to the rain. The butterfly section was always intended to be outside (for exactly the same reasons I don't like flat roofs in the UK) just in case of a leak. Fortunately last week whilst I was up there we had a huge down poor, which was the first big rain since the roof was put on. We had 2 very small leaks/drips. One in the bathroom and one in the trough under the butterfly roof. We called the roofers up and they came that day and fixed them (proven by another big downpoor).
Considering it is a metal roof, i was also impressed with the dulling of the rain noise by having the foil sheets fitted underneath. The inside ceiling isn't fitted yet but it still wasn't too noisy. If anyone else is having a metal roof fitted, I'd highly recommend putting that underneath.
I know at the start of the thread I said I would probably use it for only 4 days per year but I'm so happy with it, I could see me happily spending alot more than that but still never full time.
Posted 2012-01-26 12:59:35
Glad to hear that Mr B !
Also glad you feel comfort there...Home Sweet Home eh? 
Congrats!
Posted 2012-01-27 11:00:18
flying, on 2012-01-26 12:59:35, said:
Also glad you feel comfort there...Home Sweet Home eh?
Congrats!
Home Sweet Home is only where I have a big flat screen. Until then, I feel like it's just a stopover gaff. 
Posted 2012-01-27 11:36:26
Hope I don't bore you too much with piccies. This is another trial idea I have had. I wanted a concrete "floating" shelf for the surround sound to sit on etc with the flat screen on the wall just above. I had to design it in Saudi, so lost a bit of perspective of size. The length is 2.5 metres and about 50mm thick. Once I saw it in real life, I think it looks too thin so I'm going to double it up in thickness later. All cables will be hidden in the conduit already buried.
First piccie is with it all plastered over and it seems to be carrying the weight ok. Second and third are after it was just done.
Posted 2012-01-27 11:47:59
mrbojangles, on 2012-01-27 11:36:26, said:
Hope I don't bore you too much with piccies. This is another trial idea I have had. I wanted a concrete "floating" shelf for the surround sound to sit on etc with the flat screen on the wall just above. I had to design it in Saudi, so lost a bit of perspective of size. The length is 2.5 metres and about 50mm thick. Once I saw it in real life, I think it looks too thin so I'm going to double it up in thickness later. All cables will be hidden in the conduit already buried.
First piccie is just after it was done. Second is from the front door and the third piccie is with it all plastered over and it seems to be carrying the weight ok.
What's holding it there?
Posted 2012-01-27 11:58:52
necronx99, on 2012-01-27 11:47:59, said:
mrbojangles, on 2012-01-27 11:36:26, said:
Hope I don't bore you too much with piccies. This is another trial idea I have had. I wanted a concrete "floating" shelf for the surround sound to sit on etc with the flat screen on the wall just above. I had to design it in Saudi, so lost a bit of perspective of size. The length is 2.5 metres and about 50mm thick. Once I saw it in real life, I think it looks too thin so I'm going to double it up in thickness later. All cables will be hidden in the conduit already buried.
First piccie is just after it was done. Second is from the front door and the third piccie is with it all plastered over and it seems to be carrying the weight ok.
What's holding it there?
I'm glad you asked, cos that's the result I wanted. It's got rebar attached into the wall and then the forms made around it and concreted it. I actually stood on it (nervously) and it held ok. i probably over Engineered the design but I have an Aerospace background. It's also got be finished off yet. Don't know wether to leave it as a rustic concrete look or cover it with marble/granite.
Posted 2012-01-27 12:07:10
mrbojangles, on 2012-01-27 11:58:52, said:
necronx99, on 2012-01-27 11:47:59, said:
mrbojangles, on 2012-01-27 11:36:26, said:
Hope I don't bore you too much with piccies. This is another trial idea I have had. I wanted a concrete "floating" shelf for the surround sound to sit on etc with the flat screen on the wall just above. I had to design it in Saudi, so lost a bit of perspective of size. The length is 2.5 metres and about 50mm thick. Once I saw it in real life, I think it looks too thin so I'm going to double it up in thickness later. All cables will be hidden in the conduit already buried.
First piccie is just after it was done. Second is from the front door and the third piccie is with it all plastered over and it seems to be carrying the weight ok.
What's holding it there?
I'm glad you asked, cos that's the result I wanted. It's got rebar attached into the wall and then the forms made around it and concreted it. I actually stood on it (nervously) and it held ok. i probably over Engineered the design but I have an Aerospace background. It's also got be finished off yet. Don't know wether to leave it as a rustic concrete look or cover it with marble/granite.
But the wall itself has no rebar and is not core filled?
Might look nice with a teak veneer sleeve over it.
Edited by necronx99, 2012-01-27 12:09:08.
Posted 2012-01-27 13:42:20
necronx99, on 2012-01-27 12:07:10, said:
mrbojangles, on 2012-01-27 11:58:52, said:
necronx99, on 2012-01-27 11:47:59, said:
mrbojangles, on 2012-01-27 11:36:26, said:
Hope I don't bore you too much with piccies. This is another trial idea I have had. I wanted a concrete "floating" shelf for the surround sound to sit on etc with the flat screen on the wall just above. I had to design it in Saudi, so lost a bit of perspective of size. The length is 2.5 metres and about 50mm thick. Once I saw it in real life, I think it looks too thin so I'm going to double it up in thickness later. All cables will be hidden in the conduit already buried.
First piccie is just after it was done. Second is from the front door and the third piccie is with it all plastered over and it seems to be carrying the weight ok.
What's holding it there?
I'm glad you asked, cos that's the result I wanted. It's got rebar attached into the wall and then the forms made around it and concreted it. I actually stood on it (nervously) and it held ok. i probably over Engineered the design but I have an Aerospace background. It's also got be finished off yet. Don't know wether to leave it as a rustic concrete look or cover it with marble/granite.
But the wall itself has no rebar and is not core filled?
Might look nice with a teak veneer sleeve over it.
I wanted this shelf from the start so I had them fill the blocks when they were building the wall. It was either that way or make the slab and place it on top of the bricks as the wall was going up. Obviously there are a few ways to do it and this was just one.
Yeah, the Teak sounds nice. It'll keep the rustic look.
Posted 2012-02-02 13:35:01
now tell us about the mysterious foundation in the bedroom... or else! 
Posted 2012-02-03 13:58:27
Naam, on 2012-02-02 13:35:01, said:
now tell us about the mysterious foundation in the bedroom... or else!
This was the state when I returned to Saudi but the concrete had also been poured. I won't be able to finish it now until I return in a few months. Although I am told that the formwork has been removed and it's standing up to people walking over it etc. It will be trimmed off with wood later. Similar to the shelf, I wanted a feel of when you walk in the room the bed looks as if it is floating. Stood up, you can't see the foundation brickwork and you have to get on your knees to see it. That has also been rendered now but I also might tile it later.
As I say, these are just some ideas that I may or may not want to incorporate into my main house later and having trialled this now, if I do it again it will be easier next time.
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Posted 2012-02-06 11:52:03
Quote I wanted a feel of when you walk in the room the bed looks as if it is floating
not a bad idea! might look quite interesting.
Posted 2012-02-07 11:51:58
Naam, on 2012-02-06 11:52:03, said:
Quote I wanted a feel of when you walk in the room the bed looks as if it is floating
not a bad idea! might look quite interesting.
Cheers naam. I have it in my head what the finished article will look like but the Mrs still can't get her head round it. She just kept on saying "why not put feet at the end, won't that be easier"
Posted 2012-02-14 21:16:02
Need some tips/advise please gents.
By the time I go back we will be ready for tiling. I have already seen the tiles I fancy but they are the big 600x600mm size and you lay them without grout (or so it seems). I've seen some of the BIL tiling and it's a very good standard but I doubt he has laid these before. In the village it seems to be Thai standard cheap tiles and with grout and not the quality I'm buying, so I don't want it messing up.
Has anybody laid these before? And if so have you any tips. I.E. because you don't use grout, is there something else you use to seal the joints? Also, does anyone know if the difference between tiles coated with nano (or something like that) and those without is the worth the higher price?
Posted 2012-02-15 21:37:10
Mr BJ,
sounds to me as if you have two things going on with these tiles.
First yes I have heard of and seen "nano" tiles, from what I can gather its just a type of finish that is applied to the tiles. This may lead to problems depending on what is used to clean the tiles after fitting.
Second, you say no grouting required, sounds like you have rectified tiles, normally there will be about a 1/16th gap between tiles.
You are now getting into others areas, does the store you saw these tiles in have people they can supply to fit them?
If not you are now at the mercy of locals, and although they try their best it may well be they would be uncomfortable trying to fit something they have no experience with.
As with all tiling work you are now at the mercy of, differences in tile thickness and uneven floors.
Only you can decide what you are comfortable with and whether its worth the risk.
One other thing I have noticed seeing as you mentioned price.
Anything that is imported from Europe, they tax the shit out of, so you may well end up paying 3 or 4 times the price for a tile that is no better in terms of quality than local tiles.
Good luck.
Posted 2012-02-15 23:23:09
Cheers for replying rgs
rgs2001uk, on 2012-02-15 21:37:10, said:
First yes I have heard of and seen "nano" tiles, from what I can gather its just a type of finish that is applied to the tiles. This may lead to problems depending on what is used to clean the tiles after fitting.
The nano ones are about 100baht more expensive per box of 4 than the same tile without nano. With the qty I need, it looks like it's not worth the extra.
rgs2001uk, on 2012-02-15 21:37:10, said:
Second, you say no grouting required, sounds like you have rectified tiles, normally there will be about a 1/16th gap between tiles.
I've seen this size of tile in many places and it "seems" like there is no grouting but I'm not sure. So I didn't know if there was a type of clear silicone that was used between the joints. It's the modern style of having no or minimal grout and I must admit, they really do look great.
rgs2001uk, on 2012-02-15 21:37:10, said:
You are now getting into others areas, does the store you saw these tiles in have people they can supply to fit them?
If not you are now at the mercy of locals, and although they try their best it may well be they would be uncomfortable trying to fit something they have no experience with.
As with all tiling work you are now at the mercy of, differences in tile thickness and uneven floors..
I saw them in Boonthavorn in Pattaya, so I doubt they would go up to Chaiyaphum but I'm gonna give the wifes brothers a chance. Upto now I have been extremely impressed with their workmanship in everything they have done on our house thus far and I have also seen their tiling in other houses. I just doubt they have laid these before but the size they are should make them much easier to lay rather than more difficult. I just needed to know about the jointing.
rgs2001uk, on 2012-02-15 21:37:10, said:
One other thing I have noticed seeing as you mentioned price.
Anything that is imported from Europe, they tax the shit out of, so you may well end up paying 3 or 4 times the price for a tile that is no better in terms of quality than local tiles.
Price wise, I think these are pretty reasonable so I'm not sure if they are imported or not. It was purely the style and colour I liked and didn't look at the country of origin. When I mentioned Thai style cheap ones, I was reffering more to the common types you see everywhere. 20 baht for a box of a thousand
Posted 2012-02-20 11:02:55
Just got a few piccies sent to us yesterday, hopefully some more later this week.
The primer and the base coat has been put on and it looks a bit bright to me at the moment. May tone it down with Magnolia for the top coat but that can wait till we go back. In the rush of a thousand jobs whilst there a few weeks ago, I forgot to tell them to put vents in the soffits. We'll have to sort that out when we go back. I actually didn't know they were going to start that but the Mrs said they have to do all the jobs at height cos the "Temple want their scaffolding back". I didn't even know they belonged to the Temple. Only in Thailand eh.
Posted 2012-02-25 19:55:24
I am also in the planning stage in building a "simple" house - around 980sq meter, retangular in length and with a simple gable roof. So I find this forum helpful. I've designed the house where the bathrooms and kitchen is on on the north side so the piping is easy to lay out and (in future to fix). A couple questions out there....can the electrical wires be "hidden" into the cement blockwork? Sometimes I see part of the electric wiring showing near the switch. Next, what are the suggestons out there for tiled roofing that isn't expensive? (House is being built near Roi-et)
Posted 2012-02-25 22:38:20
toenail, on 2012-02-25 19:55:24, said:
I am also in the planning stage in building a "simple" house - around 980sq meter, retangular in length and with a simple gable roof. So I find this forum helpful. I've designed the house where the bathrooms and kitchen is on on the north side so the piping is easy to lay out and (in future to fix). A couple questions out there....can the electrical wires be "hidden" into the cement blockwork? Sometimes I see part of the electric wiring showing near the switch. Next, what are the suggestons out there for tiled roofing that isn't expensive? (House is being built near Roi-et)
Hi toenail. Did you mean 980sq m or 98sq m? If it's 980sq m I'm coming living with you
To answer your questions, Insist that the electrician uses conduit and back boxes that are sunken into the brickwork. Don't know if I've alread posted pictures showing this. If not, I'll post some.
As for roofing. I can't remember the quotes we got for tiles but they were pretty expensive in comparison to what we went ended up usingr. Of course there will be those who insist that tiles are best and to be honest, they are but it's down to your own budget really. In all honesty, for this particular build, I am really happy with the way the steel sheet roof turned out and with the foam layer underneath it's fairly quiet in the rain. However, will I use this on our main home, no, I'll be using tiles.
Posted 2012-02-25 23:02:07
Heres a piccie Toenail. You can see where the electrician has chased out for the conduit and back boxes and then covered them with mortar This all then gets rendered on top. The wiring then got put in later.
Before rendering.
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Posted 2012-02-25 23:24:15
mrbojangles, on 2012-02-25 23:02:07, said:
Heres a piccie Toenail. You can see where the electrician has chased out for the conduit and back boxes and then covered them with mortar This all then gets rendered on top. The wiring then got put in later.
Before rendering.
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Mr BJ, good to see you have learened the lingo ref "chased"
Heres some photos,
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Both before rendering, the wiring goes into the yellow pipes. then you end up with something like this,
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Edited by rgs2001uk, 2012-02-25 23:34:04.
Posted 2012-02-26 10:00:59
rgs2001uk, on 2012-02-25 23:24:15, said:
Mr BJ, good to see you have learened the lingo ref "chased"
I'm not just a pretty face rgs 
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