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[Neeranam]

I used to learn about 5-10 new words a day. Now I'd be lucky to learn that in a week.

How about posting new words every day to help us who are trying to learn.

Maybe for beginners, intermediate and advanced.

Beginner - แปรงสีฟัน bpraeng see® fan - toothbrush

Intermediate - ผลัดวันประกันพรุ่ง plat(l) wan bpra(l) gan prung(f) - to procrastinate

Advanced - สงครามจิตวิทยา song( r) kraam jit wit(h) ta(h) yaa- psychological warfare.



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Edited by Neeranam, 2005-11-06 14:44:35.

[howler]

This is a great idea!
I'm definately a biginner, can use all the help I can get.
I'll check back often, hope this thread stays alive!

[Neeranam]

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This is a great idea! 
I'm definately a biginner, can use all the help I can get.
I'll check back often, hope this thread stays alive!

Howler, looks like no one else is interested.

How about letting us know what you want to learn - maybe I can help a bit.


How about a beginners thread?
There are a lot more beginners on this forum than experts or advanced.


koon yoo tee Groong Thayp nan  thoarai? How long have you live in Bangkok?

ma nee boi mai? do you come here often?

chewmong la thoaroai how much is it per hour?

[Jai Dee]

Neeranam, on 2005-11-08 11:13:25, said:

How about a beginners thread?
There are a lot more beginners on this forum than experts or advanced.

Great idea Neeranam.
Although I've been here a while, I'm an absolute Thai language novice.  

[mijan24]

howler, on 2005-11-07 01:46:55, said:

This is a great idea!
I'm definately a biginner, can use all the help I can get.
I'll check back often, hope this thread stays alive!

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Jai Dee, on 2005-11-08 04:22:15, said:

Neeranam, on 2005-11-08 11:13:25, said:

How about a beginners thread?
There are a lot more beginners on this forum than experts or advanced.

Great idea Neeranam.
Although I've been here a while, I'm an absolute Thai language novice.  

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Great idea Neeranam I third that - Count me in - but certainly need the tansliteration to be accompanied by the written Thai for proper pronunciation & hopefully future recognition.

[HarryHacker]

Neeranam, on 2005-11-08 11:13:25, said:

Howler, looks like no one else is interested.

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Great idea, I will lurk & learn, keep it up!

Cheers.

[raro]

that thread should be pinned! I'm in!

[samran]

raro, on 2005-11-08 05:41:32, said:

that thread should be pinned! I'm in!

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done!

[sierra01]

Yeah, I'm in too. Lets go for it.

[Jai Dee]

Neeranam, on 2005-11-06 14:42:38, said:

Beginner - แปรงสีฟัน bpraeng see® fan - toothbrush

OK guys... let's get this rolling...  

If this is todays word for us beginners, can someone please explain how it is pronounced?

I mean, we've got to have some consistencies in pronunciation, as transliteration into English may not sound quite the same for everyone.

For example, I thought the word for tooth was pronounced more like fun than fan?

[Explorer]

tooth = fun

BF/GF = fan

right?

Explorer  

[withnail]

Perhaps if those with previous Thai knowledge agree to use the standard transliteration on Mike's site www.thai2english.com then there will at least be some consistency.

This also makes it easier because with a cut and paste you also have tone marks.

E.g.

แปรงสีฟัน
bpraeng sĕe fan
toothbrush

แฟน
faen  
boyfriend or girlfriend ; lover ; partner
fan ; supporter

What I think would be nice is a clean thread with no discussion in it just a word, it's translation and transliteration and an example sentence or two. Any questions could be in another thread.

Edited by withnail, 2005-11-08 15:39:47.

[Cheeky Farang]

Explorer, on 2005-11-08 14:49:18, said:

tooth = fun

BF/GF = fan

right?

Explorer 

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Maybe the answer is for the POSTER of words is to include a English word or saying and UNDERLINE the section to indicate the pronounced word they have given.

Ie

fun = teeth or tooth
(I had FUN at the fair today)

Khaw-Thort  = sorry / excuse me
(The rook makes a CAW sound, this is what I was TAUGHT at school)Pronounce as one word

Chock-Dee = good luck
(The last CHOCK was taken away by CynDEE so the vehicle could move)

See-Far = the color blue
(I can't SEE to FAR in the mist of the night)

Ling - monkey (generic name)
(Today on a fishing trip I caught a LING fish)

Gin-Jock =  geko
(I drink GIN and tonic, but my scottish friend JOCK drinks beer)Pronounce as one word

tor-a-sap = telephone
(i TORE some bark from A tree and I could see the SAP dripping down) Pronounce as one word

Any one any thoughts on this idea, but for sure WE do need to use one format here, the problem is many Thai words have no English equivalent, but we should be able to get many many basic words on this thread.

Cheers

CF

Edited by Cheeky Farang, 2005-11-08 16:39:09.

[withnail]

I would advise against that method as we all come from different places and pronounce English words differently.

I suggest leaving any very basic pronunciation questions out as this would take up too much time and anyway there are guides on this in other places.

[Cheeky Farang]

sa-naam-bin = airport
(liSA went to vietNAM to but her rubbish in the BIN)Ponounce as one word

haawng-naahm = washroom / toilet / WC
(I flew from HONG kong to vietNAM by plane)

barn = house / dwelling
(the cows are in the BARN at the farm)

mai-ow = do not want
(i cut MY leg it hurt and I shouted nOW)

[sbk]

How about linking the word to one of those online talking thai dictionaries? (whenever possible that is)

[trt]

Neeranam, on 2005-11-06 14:42:38, said:

I used to learn about 5-10 new words a day. Now I'd be lucky to learn that in a week.

How about posting new words every day to help us who are trying to learn.

Maybe for beginners, intermediate and advanced.

Beginner - แปรงสีฟัน bpraeng see® fan - toothbrush

Intermediate - ผลัดวันประกันพรุ่ง plat(l) wan bpra(l) gan prung(f) - to procrastinate

Advanced - สงครามจิตวิทยา song( r) kraam jit wit(h) ta(h) yaa- psychological warfare.



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Good Idea.. I would like to see more advanced words if possible..

Perhaps someone can even mail out a word of the day!

[Neeranam]

Some great ideas.

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How about linking the word to one of those online talking thai dictionaries? (whenever possible that is)

This would be great,  computer experts, over to you.

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I would advise against that method as we all come from different places and pronounce English words differently

I don't think this is a good method as we all don't come from the South of England.
I say farm for example pronouncing the "m".
Far, nothing like "fa" in "see fa".

Maybe 2 threads - one for beginners and one for those above that.

A universal transliteration system must be found - I suggest what the guy on Thai2english does, as someone said.

[OxfordWill]

Using thai2english.com is a great idea - that way we have no disagreements.

[Jai Dee]

Bump!

C'mon Ajarn Neeranam... where is today's word?

[Neeranam]

The word today is  ทุก - took every

Here are some examples, adapted from ethaimusic.com

ทุกครั้ง (took krang) Every Time  


สวยงามกว่าเคยทุกครั้ง (suay ngam gwar keui took krang) = It gets more beautiful every time.




ทุกคำ (took kam) Every Word

อยากจะลืมทุกคำ (yaak ja leum took kam) = I want to forget every word.




ทุกที (took tee) Every Time
ทำให้ทุกที (tam hai took tee) = Do it for me every time



ทุกวัน (took wan) Every Day

บอกฉันให้รู้อยู่ทุกวัน (bork chun hai roo yoo took wan) = Let me know every day.



ทุกเวลา (took wae-la ) Every Time/All the time

ยังคิดถึงเธอทุกเวลา (yung kit teung ter took wae-la) = I still miss you all the time.






ทุกอย่าง (took yaang) Every Thing

อาจจะทำทุกอย่างเปลี่ยนไป (art ja tam took yaang blian bai) = Maybe I'll change everything

ทุกอย่างบอกฉัน (took yaang bork chun) = Everything was telling me.

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Edited by Neeranam, 2005-11-09 15:42:53.

[mrbojangles]

Only just seen this thread. I'm definately in.

I wonder if it is also worth having another thread where, maybe Meadish for instance (if he could be so kind), can explain how the Thai script is pronounced and put together.

I.E. If we just took the individual consonants (without the vowels) you would read it something like:-

ทุ Tor ก Gor ค Kor รั้ Roo ง Ngor

This is the bit that i am struggling with. I now know, for instance there are "Stop" consonants and so ก is not pronounced "G" but "K"

Do you know what i mean   Or have i just confused myself......again  

[withnail]

May I suggest as well that we do keep it to one word (or another specified number) so that we don't have a dictionary thread appearing and everyword can be properly discussed.

Edited by withnail, 2005-11-09 19:01:36.

[withnail]

Also just a comment Neeranam your excellent thread would be more useful for beginners if you copied the transliterations from www.thai2english.com including tone markers.

[sbk]

click on the speaker to hear the word:

tuuk