Hi, can anyone help with the price of a green house, and the price of the building of it and what types there are, and what sizes, i want to grow hydroponic produce at my gf house in non udon,
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Green House
Started by Scoop1, 2011-10-08 08:57
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jamescollister
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-08 11:18:37
Don't know much about hydroponics, but don't think you need a traditional green house in this climate. jim
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WatersEdge
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-08 12:05:19
A greenhouse has several advantages aside from the obvious,
to prevent freezing. Insect & Disease control Night time temperature control Rainfall control CO2 Concentration. There is definitely a reason that greenhouses are used increasingly in Thailand. Bell Pepper (Capsicum they are called sometimes) especially are raised in greenhouses very successively. In order to estimate the costs, You need to tell us the size. In general the larger the greenhouse, the lower the unit area cost. The greater the height, the less problem excessive daytime temperature will be. Is is to be build on a level site, or on a sloped field. Just reading your post, it seems that you want to know everything, without putting any effort out yourself to learn There are companies that sell turnkey greenhouses but you can probably save a lot if you exert the study time to learn what they know. The cheapest way to cover the largest area is geodesic dome. The larger the cheaper, up to 60 meters diameter using 6 meter long steel tube. This dome is 30 meters high...ten 3 meter stories For hoop style, I'd recommend a 12 meter span using 14 meter wide roll plastic over the arch. How high you elevate the half cylinder is up to you, I did some designs a while back using full 6 meter high poles. The beauty of a high clearance building, is that something else could be done below the plant deck, such as raising animals, poultry, or fish. Foundation and Roof are the main expense of a building, height is comparatively cheap. #4
ozzydom
Platinum Member Posted 2011-10-08 13:15:28
Scoop1 Google can be your friend.
Edited by ozzydom, 2011-10-08 13:17:05. #5
rice555
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-09 00:09:12
Hello Scoop1, the place to find info is in House Ag Mag.,
see picture. The have ad's from time to time on GH's and articles(inThai), the only real place to look! The second pic. is C-T's ad, these type of GH's are for sale through 4-5 different Co's in BKK. ACK, Netafim, NaanDan(Meterz Plaz). For build your own, TCT has parts, that's where Silentnine got his film. www.tctthainet.com Thescott in other TV hydro thread got some of his stuff their also. The site is only good to get a map of where they are, you need to go and see what they have. Phone calls and @'s are useless in LOS. www.hdpenet.com has shade cloths and bug netting in their ad, they may have more stuff to build you own. More info on GH's from ACK, Netafim and the person to call is in other TV-hydro threads, google may work beater than the regular TV search. I'm not metric, so in US, if you want to build a 30'X100' GH, you would have to buy the next size roll of film, which would be, say 35'/40'X120'/130' which is a lot of waste($$$) every 2-4 years. So you build 24'/28'X98' to use a 30'X100' roll. Always build around what size of films you can get inLOS, it's 30% duty on cost+S&H if you order abroad. If you can wait till, http://www.hortiasia...iasia.net/ you might be able to get what you want, they will still be adding Co's to the list of exhibitors should be completed in a few months. There'a a pdf of who, and what they sell/do, up now. You could look co's from the names listed. Keep us posted. rice555 http://www.thaivisa....ylene-sheeting/ Attached Files
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tiger2
Member Posted 2011-10-09 18:07:03
I guess you could pay ACK 78,000 baht for a bare-bones hoop house (delivery and installation EXcluded). Pic #1:
Or...build your own for a fraction of that. Pic #2 Attached Files
Edited by tiger2, 2011-10-09 18:15:25. #7
ozzydom
Platinum Member Posted 2011-10-09 19:35:52
The OP has not come back, but I am wondering whether he is interested in a greenhouse (glasshouse) or just a shade house.
One is a controlled environment unit which can be very expensive to set up while the other is just what it is ,a shade house and much more economical. #8
tiger2
Member Posted 2011-10-09 22:35:41
The 78,000 baht hoop house from ACK is NOT climate controlled--it's nothing more than a frame for a shade house. A 3 x 6 x 2 meter shade house. With a 80cm door on one end. 3/4" 'galvanized' (not painted) steel tubing--grade not specified even after I asked. 3 mil poly. This design is a whopping 36 m3...
 The local fab shop down the road quoted the following (for the exact same design and dimensions as ACK's): 1) 1.5" grade 'A' galvanized and painted steel frame 2) 100cm galvanized steel door and door frame--also painted 3) 18 meters 1" x 4" wood baseboards 4) 6 of the 12 legs cemented one meter into the ground 5) Delivery and installation plus a 2 year guarantee on materials and workmanship Price: 12,500 baht. Poly not included. More realistic and practical sizes (same shop, same materials and guarantee) of 6 x 12 x 3 meters (216 m3) were 30,500 baht. 10 x 20 x 3 meters (600 m3) 70,500 baht. You do the math...  PS The products from ACK, ChiaThai, NetaFim and a few other companies that target the hydro/organic commercial and (somewhat) hobby market are obscenely overpriced. Many of the exact same items can be found elsewhere--Super Products, Global House, larger hardware (wasadu) stores, local farmers' stores and 'Mom & Pop' shops--for 50% cheaper and more. Something to think about when you're spending a large chunk of $ on a hobby project. Or if you decide to go 'mersh'...
Edited by tiger2, 2011-10-09 22:48:58. #9
Scoop1
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-10 04:29:53
Thanks all, thats very helpfull, i will be coming to los in december, so now i have a guide, and will do more research when i get there, Thank you very much
scoop1 #10
ozzydom
Platinum Member Posted 2011-10-11 14:06:24
I guess you could pay ACK 78,000 baht for a bare-bones hoop house (delivery and installation EXcluded). Pic #1: Or...build your own for a fraction of that. Pic #2 There are only 3 ways of deleting material after it is posted. 1. The poster has a small window of time to edit their post. 2. A moderator can do it. 3. Any poster can quote all or part of a post in a reply. 1. Are you sure it was originally part of your post 2. As I am no longer the moderator of this forum I do not have the facility to edit posts. 3.As your post has not been answered or re-posted, #3 is not relevant Please learn how the forum works prior to casting aspersions on members. #11
rice555
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-12 01:08:06
Hello all, when somebody for a greenhouse, I
thought they might be looking for a greenhouse, not a hobby greenhouse. Here's some toys and tools at ACK. rice555 Evap GH Nethouse Hoby GH #1 Hobby GH #2 Attached Files
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XGM
Newbie Posted 2012-02-05 00:42:30
How much can I expect to pay for a 1 hectare greenhouse, say 4.5 - 5 meters high, suited for covering with polyethylene, say in Korat area?
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rice555
Senior Member Posted 2012-02-05 02:05:22
Hello XGM, call and ask one of the company's listed in several of the hydro threads,
or use google to find same. Prices depend on what type and what growing system. There was a thread on a guy up north that had to sell his houses, had some pictures and some number$ you might be able to get an idea of costs. rice555 #14
XGM
Newbie Posted 2012-02-05 04:25:05
Hello rice555, thanks for your post. For sure I will contact those companies but I am currently not in thailand and trying to get an estimate of the cost of such a project. My question refers only to the greenhouse itself (with or without assembly) and not to the irrigation / other infrastructure I will need to purchase and install.
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rice555
Senior Member Posted 2012-02-06 00:06:26
Hello XGM, if you have the building site located, you could contact
Tomas, he's on the contact page, he's done some of ACK's houses. Last I knew, he was in Pac Chong(Korat). http://www.datt.co.th/ Another choice might be to be in BKK on 3/9-11/2012 at: www.hortiasia.net You'll have all the major players under one roof at the same time. Give them site info and what you want, see what price they can come up with. rice555 #16
rice555
Senior Member Posted 2012-02-06 02:54:58
Correction, thats May 9-11 2012.
I need to clean my glasses. This is a list of some of the exhibitors. rice555 http://www.hortiasia...ibitor_List.pdf #17
XGM
Newbie Posted 2012-02-06 03:08:15
thanks rice555, this looks very interesting although I hope to be in a more advanced stage by mid May.
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teletiger
Dying ember Posted 2012-02-06 19:47:58
The 78,000 baht hoop house from ACK is NOT climate controlled--it's nothing more than a frame for a shade house. A 3 x 6 x 2 meter shade house. With a 80cm door on one end. 3/4" 'galvanized' (not painted) steel tubing--grade not specified even after I asked. 3 mil poly. This design is a whopping 36 m3... The local fab shop down the road quoted the following (for the exact same design and dimensions as ACK's): 1) 1.5" grade 'A' galvanized and painted steel frame 2) 100cm galvanized steel door and door frame--also painted 3) 18 meters 1" x 4" wood baseboards 4) 6 of the 12 legs cemented one meter into the ground 5) Delivery and installation plus a 2 year guarantee on materials and workmanship Price: 12,500 baht. Poly not included. More realistic and practical sizes (same shop, same materials and guarantee) of 6 x 12 x 3 meters (216 m3) were 30,500 baht. 10 x 20 x 3 meters (600 m3) 70,500 baht. You do the math... PS The products from ACK, ChiaThai, NetaFim and a few other companies that target the hydro/organic commercial and (somewhat) hobby market are obscenely overpriced. Many of the exact same items can be found elsewhere--Super Products, Global House, larger hardware (wasadu) stores, local farmers' stores and 'Mom & Pop' shops--for 50% cheaper and more. Something to think about when you're spending a large chunk of $ on a hobby project. Or if you decide to go 'mersh'...  5 mt 3 sand for the floor. With the painting, whole thing took 5 days..Regards. |
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