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and still, the baht remains unchanged.

Food in the market where my g/f lives and her mother grows and seels her farm products, prices have at least doubled on everything she sells. She is located on high ground, no flooding. How can Baht remain the same when up to half the country's industry is shut down for one reason or another, and costs are starting to soar for the more of basic items, FOOD.

Half the countries industry isn't shut down as the parts of Bangkok where industry happen aren't flooded and nor is Chonburi or Rayong province. What Industry outside of those places apart from tourism and rice is there ? Apart from people profitering from others misery in the country where have food prices risen ?

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Over the years that I was in Thailand, numerous times when upcountry I heard of rich Bangkok people buying land upcountry that was way above sea level... the city is below sea level with most of the original canals that allowed the water to flow away filled in, it is inevitable that the place will eventually implode and turn to dust - all those skyscrapers are built on poor quality soil that is continually inundated by water and they will fall down one by one. Fantastic energetic city but built on ether, may survive this flood and the next but eventually the whole infrastructure will go bang.

Hi Nostradamus.

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Lest we forget: here's a news item from June 2010, just 15 months ago titled;

Thailand Could Face Its Worst Drought In 20 Years

"The prime minister (Abhisit) has urged the Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives Ministry to come up with plans to tackle the ongoing drought, which is considered the worst in two decades.Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva expressed his concern about the drought situation in Thailand, saying that it could be the worst in 20 years." continued..........

Maidu's comment: drought/flood/drought/flood ....year after year. Only, the extreme fluctuations are getting worse year by year. Why? Because voracious development is pouring cement and asphalt over immense tracts of terrain that used to be fields and farms. There hasn't been exceptionally more rain this year, it's just that there's a lot less ground and trees for soaking up water. Guess which families are at the top of the heap re; investing in sprawling new real estate compounds? Yup, it's the Shinawatres and other Chinese/Thai families. Up where I live, it's the Sinthanee family (also from China), which build 2 to 3 gargantuan cookie cutter house estates per year.

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and still, the baht remains unchanged.

Food in the market where my g/f lives and her mother grows and seels her farm products, prices have at least doubled on everything she sells. She is located on high ground, no flooding. How can Baht remain the same when up to half the country's industry is shut down for one reason or another, and costs are starting to soar for the more of basic items, FOOD.

Half the countries industry isn't shut down as the parts of Bangkok where industry happen aren't flooded and nor is Chonburi or Rayong province. What Industry outside of those places apart from tourism and rice is there ? Apart from people profitering from others misery in the country where have food prices risen ?

Well we have very little orders currently, mean that most of our customer don't work.

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and still, the baht remains unchanged.

Food in the market where my g/f lives and her mother grows and seels her farm products, prices have at least doubled on everything she sells. She is located on high ground, no flooding. How can Baht remain the same when up to half the country's industry is shut down for one reason or another, and costs are starting to soar for the more of basic items, FOOD.

Half the countries industry isn't shut down as the parts of Bangkok where industry happen aren't flooded and nor is Chonburi or Rayong province. What Industry outside of those places apart from tourism and rice is there ? Apart from people profitering from others misery in the country where have food prices risen ?

Well we have very little orders currently, mean that most of our customer don't work.

Orders for what and does what you do account for half the countries industry and are the low orders attributal to the floods ?

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So is this the dilema ?

Call in the army for emergency help who shot your martyrs in the protests who won you the election ?

Leave it until they step in anyway maybe losing power ?

Or just leave it and hope it all goes away. Then offer an Ipod for every child at the next election including those who have lost their homes.

No wonder she was crying, It maybe a lot longer until she sees big bro again.

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So 3 different opinions it seems, pm says bkk will be safe, govenor not so sure and now the military calling for emergency measures.

Glad to see we are all on the same page.

In other news, tide is coming back in and river is rising as expected-looks similar to yesterday.

Now why would you think that they would be on the same page??? That's ridiculous: PT is in charge, but the Dem. governor wants his party to gain face so he sits on the fence uncommitted, and (of course) the military want to be in charge again with their puppet PM...

I guess you wouldn't know sarcasm if it slapped you in the face?

Yes, PT is in charge and making an incredible mess of things. Science minister screams "EVACUATE", Justice Minister says "Ignore that moron", and PM goes off to cry. Yeah, PT really inspires confidence in their handling of this crisis... NOT!

I'm glad to know that the authorities in Bangkok are not relying on PT to protect the city.

Thai Military is already doing a lot to evacuate people, distribute aid and fortify and protect flood barriers. They could do more, but PM refuses to declare a state of emergency.

Shocking incompetence and zero accountability.

TiT :jap:

If you are going to quote some one then give them the decency to make the quote as realistic as possible. The Science Minister did not in any way at all say "Evacuate". Not in Thai or in English. He made a very middle of the road statement saying that a certain area might get flooded. It was a vague and when it was mentioned to a group of people who were eagerly waiting for a statement saying evacuate or don't evacuate, it was inferred to mean "evacuate".

You didn't hear about Science and Technology Minister Plodprasop Suraswadi's evacuation order???

Wonder where you get your news...

Seeing as how Minister Plod has already issued a public apology for his monumental cock-up I stand by my original post.

Here's the quote from a Bangkok publication that we're not allowed to "post" on ThaiVisa:

"Science and Technology Minister Plodprasop Suraswadi on Friday apologized to Bangkok people for his premature flood evacuation alert yesterday evening.

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Given that it's absolutely pissing down in the Sathorn/Silom area (at 1925) and given that all the Thai news channels that I'm looking at at least, seem to be concentrating on what was going on 5+ hours ago, can anyone that is in close proximity to the river at Thaksin/Oriental/ChinaTown give us a clue as to whether the river is looking at breaking point or not? I was there at 1230 today and again at around 4pm and it looked (to me at least), as if it was on the rise.

Perhaps we can have a thread that is solely for updates around the region that concentrates on useful info on the flooding (levels, traffic conditions, power outages etc), that leave all the political BS out of the picture. Just a thought. Thanks

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Over the years that I was in Thailand, numerous times when upcountry I heard of rich Bangkok people buying land upcountry that was way above sea level... the city is below sea level with most of the original canals that allowed the water to flow away filled in, it is inevitable that the place will eventually implode and turn to dust - all those skyscrapers are built on poor quality soil that is continually inundated by water and they will fall down one by one. Fantastic energetic city but built on ether, may survive this flood and the next but eventually the whole infrastructure will go bang.

Hi Nostradamus.

You're giving him too much credit. Haven't some of Notradamus' predictions actually come true?

This Greg Chambers fellow is a few cards short of a full deck.

If Bangkok is doomed, then I guess we'd have to say the same about every other big city that sits a few feet above (or below) sea level? Like Manhattan, Miami, Singapore, Osaka, Mumbai, and most of Holland just to name a few???

What you call Nostradamus, I call loony :crazy:

http://matadornetwork.com/change/wipe-out-worlds-most-vulnerable-coastal-cities/

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Orders for what and does what you do account for half the countries industry and are the low orders attributal to the floods ?

We sell hydraulic/pneumatic seals, they are always a good indicator for the economy as every kind of industry uses some. Might also that when floods may come the last thing someone want to have is a machine separated for repair.

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Lest we forget: here's a news item from June 2010, just 15 months ago titled;

Thailand Could Face Its Worst Drought In 20 Years

"The prime minister (Abhisit) has urged the Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives Ministry to come up with plans to tackle the ongoing drought, which is considered the worst in two decades.Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva expressed his concern about the drought situation in Thailand, saying that it could be the worst in 20 years." continued..........

Maidu's comment: drought/flood/drought/flood ....year after year. Only, the extreme fluctuations are getting worse year by year. Why? Because voracious development is pouring cement and asphalt over immense tracts of terrain that used to be fields and farms. There hasn't been exceptionally more rain this year, it's just that there's a lot less ground and trees for soaking up water. Guess which families are at the top of the heap re; investing in sprawling new real estate compounds? Yup, it's the Shinawatres and other Chinese/Thai families. Up where I live, it's the Sinthanee family (also from China), which build 2 to 3 gargantuan cookie cutter house estates per year.

Just to rectify. This year has been a lot of rain almost all over Thailand. It started with the South, with major amount of rainfall and devastating floods in March. Then, an unusually wet monsoon with high rainfall in many parts of Thailand, especially in the North and North-East. So far Nongkai got more than 2000 mm of rain this year. Also many northern and central parts got more than 2000 mm, Bangkok as well. It doesn't happen every year. This year is by far the wettest in the last decades. A link for the amount of rainfall so far in Thailand:

http://tmd.go.th/en/climate.php

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As usual, the useless Nation article doesn't give any explanation of HOW declaring a state of emergency would help improve the flood protection efforts for BKK...

What exactly would such a declaration allow the Army to do that they can't already do now? They pretty much do what they want, when they want, all the time already....

Funny though.... someone else asked this question here the other day and I never saw any answer... Where are the BIB through all this???

They do seem to have been pretty conspicuously quiet and absent... Busy rushing to relocate all the casinos to upper floors???

Tall John,

Ya' kinda answered your own question with the use of the adjective USELESS before Nation (news article)!!! :lol:

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Over the years that I was in Thailand, numerous times when upcountry I heard of rich Bangkok people buying land upcountry that was way above sea level... the city is below sea level with most of the original canals that allowed the water to flow away filled in, it is inevitable that the place will eventually implode and turn to dust - all those skyscrapers are built on poor quality soil that is continually inundated by water and they will fall down one by one. Fantastic energetic city but built on ether, may survive this flood and the next but eventually the whole infrastructure will go bang.

Hi Nostradamus.

You're giving him too much credit. Haven't some of Notradamus' predictions actually come true?

This Greg Chambers fellow is a few cards short of a full deck.

If Bangkok is doomed, then I guess we'd have to say the same about every other big city that sits a few feet above (or below) sea level? Like Manhattan, Miami, Singapore, Osaka, Mumbai, and most of Holland just to name a few???

What you call Nostradamus, I call loony :crazy:

http://matadornetwor...coastal-cities/

The BIG difference is those cities, their state and/or provincial governments, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, and their municipal governments already have contingency plans in place. At least in the United States the National Guard serves at the leisure of the Governor ( unless federalized by the President). Any state of emergency declared would include the National Guard in whatever capacity.

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Given that it's absolutely pissing down in the Sathorn/Silom area (at 1925) and given that all the Thai news channels that I'm looking at at least, seem to be concentrating on what was going on 5+ hours ago, can anyone that is in close proximity to the river at Thaksin/Oriental/ChinaTown give us a clue as to whether the river is looking at breaking point or not? I was there at 1230 today and again at around 4pm and it looked (to me at least), as if it was on the rise.

Perhaps we can have a thread that is solely for updates around the region that concentrates on useful info on the flooding (levels, traffic conditions, power outages etc), that leave all the political BS out of the picture. Just a thought. Thanks

Surasak/silom junction about a foot of water, got hit hard by that.. lost the first half of the big match, well fracked off

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and still, the baht remains unchanged.

Food in the market where my g/f lives and her mother grows and seels her farm products, prices have at least doubled on everything she sells. She is located on high ground, no flooding. How can Baht remain the same when up to half the country's industry is shut down for one reason or another, and costs are starting to soar for the more of basic items, FOOD.

Half the countries industry isn't shut down as the parts of Bangkok where industry happen aren't flooded and nor is Chonburi or Rayong province. What Industry outside of those places apart from tourism and rice is there ? Apart from people profitering from others misery in the country where have food prices risen ?

Ask Honda, they play a small part don't they,??? near all of their stock-CARS are under water, and Nissan--and I do believe a host more could be affected don't you ??? All this importance staged on our lovely clean capitol, ( I do apologise for the hard hit and poor-really I do feel for them) But after all this it could well be a good start to clean this <deleted> hole up, and other places.

I'm only sorry millions are to lose all they have, due to a succession of greedy carnivores in government. These leeches have a lot to answer for.

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and still, the baht remains unchanged.

Food in the market where my g/f lives and her mother grows and seels her farm products, prices have at least doubled on everything she sells. She is located on high ground, no flooding. How can Baht remain the same when up to half the country's industry is shut down for one reason or another, and costs are starting to soar for the more of basic items, FOOD.

Half the countries industry isn't shut down as the parts of Bangkok where industry happen aren't flooded and nor is Chonburi or Rayong province. What Industry outside of those places apart from tourism and rice is there ? Apart from people profitering from others misery in the country where have food prices risen ?

Ask Honda, they play a small part don't they,??? near all of their stock-CARS are under water, and Nissan--and I do believe a host more could be affected don't you ??? All this importance staged on our lovely clean capitol, ( I do apologise for the hard hit and poor-really I do feel for them) But after all this it could well be a good start to clean this <deleted> hole up, and other places.

I'm only sorry millions are to lose all they have, due to a succession of greedy carnivores in government. These leeches have a lot to answer for.

Hitachi and Western Digital: I think they make like half the worlds Harddisks....

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Given that it's absolutely pissing down in the Sathorn/Silom area (at 1925) and given that all the Thai news channels that I'm looking at at least, seem to be concentrating on what was going on 5+ hours ago, can anyone that is in close proximity to the river at Thaksin/Oriental/ChinaTown give us a clue as to whether the river is looking at breaking point or not? I was there at 1230 today and again at around 4pm and it looked (to me at least), as if it was on the rise.

Perhaps we can have a thread that is solely for updates around the region that concentrates on useful info on the flooding (levels, traffic conditions, power outages etc), that leave all the political BS out of the picture. Just a thought. Thanks

Surasak/silom junction about a foot of water, got hit hard by that.. lost the first half of the big match, well fracked off

Thanks for the update MH. Hope all is well with you and yours. I wonder if the water is from the massive rainstorm we just had or from the river??

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For those who want the most up-to-the-minute reports, please check with Thailand News updates. This changes each day, for today it's here:

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My girlfriend is in yannawa, she says around 200 meters from my area is flooding 1 feet, I was out to get some dinner but then raining very hard rain and still some area are flooding.

Keep your powder dry guys

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Thanks for the update waza

My girlfriend is in yannawa, she says around 200 meters from my area is flooding 1 feet, I was out to get some dinner but then raining very hard rain and still some area are flooding.

Keep your powder dry guys

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No further issue here in Bangplad. I have heard that Dusit has some flooding (opposite us) and there is plenty of flooding out in Bang Bua Thong, but this is all known. The view from my apartment window (about 3m from the river) is that we are still OK. Tomorrow morning will be more interesting as we will have the same tidal height as this morning but there will be increased flood water to add to it. If anything "exciting" happens I'll be sure to post a photo.

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I have deleted several off-topic posts and replies to them. The situation in BKK is getting a little more serious. There are several threads where you can discuss politics.

Not here.

Not anymore.

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The weather was beautiful this afternoon so I jumped on the bike to go exploring. Of course, no sooner had I hit the road it started pissing down. Ah well, whatcha gonna do? :rolleyes:

I headed to Minburi since I read it's flooded and I used to live there.

Seems like all the major roads are fine. No flooding on Ramkamhaeng, Rom Klao, Chalong Krung or highway 304. Chao Khun Thahan road is rather badly flooded on the westbound side, but traffic was still getting through. Eastbound side is high and dry.

Many smaller roads are flooded and some are impassable.

A few pics-

Oct15thMinburiFloodSSR.jpg

Canals are full and overflowing.

Nice to see that not everyone is miserable- check out these kids jumping into a flooded canal-

Oct15thMinburiFlood1SSR.jpg

Folks who've built their homes at canal level are getting their feet wet...

Oct15thMinburiFlood3SSR.jpg

I was going to give this road a try (I think it's Rom Klao Soi 19?) but the Fortuner I was following U-turn'd when we got to a particularly deep section and I figured it I would be foolish of me to try and get through here.

Oct15thMinburiFlood2SSR.jpg

Stopped in front of my old place on Kum Klao road and snapped this pic-

Oct15thMinburiVersysFloodSSR.jpg

The water wasn't very deep here, but on other parts of the road it was a bit dicey- I'd say around 2-3 feet deep.

So, it's bad, but not as bad as I expected. No flooding at all in "downtown" Minburi. (Yet)

Good luck everyone! :jap:

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According to the information I got from a Thai friend, Minburi has been declared a disaster area. Where I live, we are still dry, but it has been raining off and on and some big khlongs.

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