Okay upgrading my personal notebook did not went well, I lost all network connection (wireless and wired), but with a fresh install all went well and it seems to work well.
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Ubuntu 11.10 Is Released And Nobody Is Upgrading?
Started by Richard-BKK, 2011-10-17 18:24
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39 replies to this topic
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thaimite
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-18 01:38:16
I did an upgrade last Friday. I am running AMD 64Bit on a Vaio
I have and a few problems that have greatly helped in my Linux self training.
My one remaining annoyance is that mounted drives are no longer shown on the desktop. I know many people did not like that and I have found no end of posts of how to reomove it in Natty and other builds, but none as to how to get it back in Oneiric. Before you ask reversing the steps used in natty to hide the drive is not an option oin oneiric #3
Forethat
PGA Member Posted 2011-10-18 07:26:10
Upgrading as we speak....
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chinook
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-18 11:51:18
Thinking of installing Mint Debian on XP machine myself, read that it's user friendly n all. Anybody have any experience/comments with Mint? Is it better than Ubuntu?
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Forethat
PGA Member Posted 2011-10-18 12:02:09
Upgrading as we speak.... #6
thaimite
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-18 12:12:40
Upgrading as we speak.... #7
Forethat
PGA Member Posted 2011-10-18 12:28:38
Upgrading as we speak.... #8
Forethat
PGA Member Posted 2011-10-18 13:30:30
And the network is the noticeable issue so far. Both wired and wireless is corrupt/not working. #9
Forethat
PGA Member Posted 2011-10-18 13:51:51
So, after spending the better part of the Tuesday trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 the verdict is........A SACK OF SHITE. I wont even attempt sorting out everything, that's how bad it is.
I'll be surprised if the release itself is as flaky as the upgrader, but even so its pretty much piss poor. I'll wipe the entire installation and start from scratch.... #10
HenkeLarsgretasson
Newbie Posted 2011-10-18 16:24:46
Did a fresh install on a new hd last friday, everything runs good not notice any problems. Unity was the first thing to throw out, don´t like it. Trying Gnome 3 but use XFCE as desktop enviroment.
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Derifo
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-18 20:05:51
Been running it since Alpha 1 and I like it.
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innerspace
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-18 20:19:11
Installed it on my home pc while bored.
Not a fan of unity or gnome 3. XFCE is alright but have problems with one of my most used programs (qbittorrent opens but the windows is never visible). Installed the gnome-classic-replacement and while almost being the good old gnome it misses some major functionality. Next time im bored at home I think a reinstall of 10.10 is in order. #13
thaimite
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-18 21:10:56
Installed it on my home pc while bored. Not a fan of unity or gnome 3. XFCE is alright but have problems with one of my most used programs (qbittorrent opens but the windows is never visible). Installed the gnome-classic-replacement and while almost being the good old gnome it misses some major functionality. Next time im bored at home I think a reinstall of 10.10 is in order. On my system, Qbittorrent appeared to open but then shut down. Starting it from a command prompt showed some problems, which as posted earlier turned out to be due to multiple versions of Boost library (1.42 and 1.46) installed) #14
mazd2
Advanced Member Posted 2011-10-19 01:10:16
try puppy linux, small & nimble, user-friendly, 529 kicks ass
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Forethat
PGA Member Posted 2011-10-19 14:26:56
After two days of numerous attempts and troubleshooting I can pretty much conclude that this release is by far the worst piece of shit that Ubuntu has ever released. Being a Ubuntu user for 3 years I am used to a certain standard, but this just isn't good enough. It stinks like yesterdays diapers. My options now are a) back to an earlier release or
 try another distribution. I am tempted to go for b.My advice to Ubuntu would be to learn your "dBase"-lesson... #16
Gumballl
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-19 17:59:57
Did a fresh install on a new hd last friday, everything runs good not notice any problems. Unity was the first thing to throw out, don´t like it. Trying Gnome 3 but use XFCE as desktop enviroment. I made the "mistake" of updating one of my laptops last night; typically I wait to upgrade at least a month or so (sometimes longer) after a new release is made available. I do this for obvious reasons... let everyone else sort out the kinks. Edited by Gumballl, 2011-10-19 18:01:15. #17
Forethat
PGA Member Posted 2011-10-19 19:09:08
Did a fresh install on a new hd last friday, everything runs good not notice any problems. Unity was the first thing to throw out, don´t like it. Trying Gnome 3 but use XFCE as desktop enviroment. I made the "mistake" of updating one of my laptops last night; typically I wait to upgrade at least a month or so (sometimes longer) after a new release is made available. I do this for obvious reasons... let everyone else sort out the kinks. sudo apt-get install gnome-shell #18
Gumballl
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-20 07:11:46
Did a fresh install on a new hd last friday, everything runs good not notice any problems. Unity was the first thing to throw out, don´t like it. Trying Gnome 3 but use XFCE as desktop enviroment. I made the "mistake" of updating one of my laptops last night; typically I wait to upgrade at least a month or so (sometimes longer) after a new release is made available. I do this for obvious reasons... let everyone else sort out the kinks. sudo apt-get install gnome-shell P.S. It could be that my system got a botched installation of 11.10. I'm surprised that I am unable to locate any place to configure my font preferences, or add additional launchers to the gnome panel. When I launch a terminal, the menu-bar is huge (12 font); there appears to be no way to make it smaller. #19
Forethat
PGA Member Posted 2011-10-20 11:03:01
P.S. It could be that my system got a botched installation of 11.10. I'm surprised that I am unable to locate any place to configure my font preferences, or add additional launchers to the gnome panel. When I launch a terminal, the menu-bar is huge (12 font); there appears to be no way to make it smaller. sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool You start the tool by simply launching: gnome-tweak-tool I agree with your opinion regarding the kiosk-style, I am already looking at candidates that could be a replacement for Ubuntu, RedHat could be one of them, SuSe another. My biggest issue is that I have a lot of software that doesn't run on all distributions. Edited by Forethat, 2011-10-20 11:03:29. #20
smiling mantis
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-20 18:00:15
Mac user here who usually runs Gentoo Linux via VirtualBox...
Had the occasion to try and retrieve some files from an external HD formatted as ext3. The software available on Mac OS X simply wasn't up to the task; very slow, many errors, a real horror show. Tried doing the copy using both Gentoo and Fedora via VirtualBox but that was agonizing slow too (talking about 500KB/s here, yikes!) So I figured I'd just boot using my Gentoo Live CD's. That was a major case of fail too... couldn't boot! Ditto with Fedora! Arggh! Then I tried Ubuntu 11.10, 64-bit. OMG! It's like I'm booting with alien technology over here! Just an absolutely awesome experience; everything works right out of the box, and this is on a MacBook Pro, a machine that historically doesn't get a lot of love from Linux vendors. Had to do a little fumbling around with the interface to find a terminal, but that took all of maybe a couple of minutes, and my file copy is on it's way presently, and at the native speed of the slower disk (22MB/s), and all from a Live CD! I should note I first tried the 32-bit version (the website says it's recommended) but it froze on the first screen (language selection). FWIW, if you ever need to do similar from a Mac, you'll need to be sure that if the destination drive is HFS, that it's formatted with journalling off, otherwise you can't write to the volume. Spent a whole day trying to work this out. #21
pengythai
Newbie Posted 2011-10-21 23:45:55
Thinking of installing Mint Debian on XP machine myself, read that it's user friendly n all. Anybody have any experience/comments with Mint? Is it better than Ubuntu? I've been running mint debian on my laptop since they first released it, without too many problems, there was an update that completely broke my nvidia-glx installation but that was all. It's pretty good, and now they have the update packs to prevent the problem that I and many others experienced. It's worth a shot. I still use the debian testing repositories instead of the default update repositories but I do enjoy a challenge as you learn a great deal in the process of fixing it. If you're not certain then try it in virtual box under XP before committing. #22
volk666
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-22 12:54:31
I just had one look at Unity and decided I'm not touching that distro again.
I'm a KDE user, maybe that explains it. #23
vediovis
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-23 13:54:59
I just had one look at Unity and decided I'm not touching that distro again. I'm a KDE user, maybe that explains it. Stay or come back to 11.04 Don't upgrade except if you are on a tablet or a mobile device 11.10 sees the apogee of Unity  and the end of Gnome 2. There's no "Ubuntu classic" anymore. You can try Gnome 3 but it's a total mess. They didn't make a default for KDE so you will have to make it run per yourself and make it cohabitate with Unity 2D, good luck with that.Ubuntu is going badly recently, with frenetic crazy updates every months, and it seems everyone there have switched to a tablet or a mobile phone, so they totally forgot the people still using a workstation. #24
thaimite
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-23 15:28:02
I just had one look at Unity and decided I'm not touching that distro again. I'm a KDE user, maybe that explains it. Stay or come back to 11.04 Don't upgrade except if you are on a tablet or a mobile device 11.10 sees the apogee of Unity and the end of Gnome 2. There's no "Ubuntu classic" anymore. You can try Gnome 3 but it's a total mess. They didn't make a default for KDE so you will have to make it run per yourself and make it cohabitate with Unity 2D, good luck with that.Ubuntu is going badly recently, with frenetic crazy updates every months, and it seems everyone there have switched to a tablet or a mobile phone, so they totally forgot the people still using a workstation. At first I thought it was horrible and tried to stick with my Gnome 2.. I tried Gnome 3 and found it worse than Unity, and I also tried Kubuntu and while it looked easy, I found it very counter intuitive and unfriendly. so in desperation I stuck with Natty. Soon I found several tweaks for Natty that added nice things such as right click ability to menu items and learnt a few of the hot keys. Now I love it, All my main applications are a single click from the desktop, and anything I need occasionally I just tap the windows key and start typing the name in to dash and I am presented with the right option without wading through various menus wondering where it is. Last Friday I installed Oneiric on a friends laptop. He is new to Ubuntu but wanted to give it a try.. He did not like the look of my Unity Interface and wanted something more."XP like" He has been an XP user for many years and very competent with computers and is not keen on Windows 7 Mint was out for various reasons, and after viewing different options on my machine he elected for Kubuntu. BAD CHOICE. He found it very difficult to work with and find things. Within an hour he had decided he hated it. I showed him how to install Gnome Desktop with Unity and he was away. He admits it is easy to use and find things. The software centre and Dash are very easy to use and without help he added applications he wanted such as Skype and VLC. He is still dual booting in to Windows 7 for some applications but is now confidently using Ubuntu for many things and likes the speed and performance. The only thng stopping him using Ubuntu more is problems getting his 3G modem to work, (Ubuntu Bug) which hopefully we will sort out next weekend. So to end it all. Give Unity a chance. It is still a work in progress with a few rough edges, BUT on the whole the Ubuntu team has done a great job. #25
justsumhelp
Senior Member Posted 2011-10-25 07:46:42
Window managers such as kde, gnome, enlightenment, xfce, have nothing to do with debain, which ubuntu is based on.
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