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[thaimite]

justsumhelp, on 2011-10-25 07:46:42, said:

Window managers such as kde, gnome, enlightenment, xfce, have nothing to do with debain, which ubuntu is based on.

Agreed, but it has a lot to do with the user experience and the reason why most users choose one distro or another.
Most of us have spent the earlier part of our computing experience with Windows and when changing to a new operating system this will effect what we want.
It is not only about ergonomics but also about the learning curve required to become productive.  
For me Unity took a bit of time to get used to, but now I think it was worth it. If I had come from Windows 7 instead of XP (via gnome 2) it may have been a different story.  I was never a fan of XP or any of the other windows GUIs.  Until Linux OS2 Warp would have had my vote as the best OS of the day from a user experience perspective.  Lack of support for drivers and software is what killled it as there was no real open source community to suppport it.
Before anybody says anything, I have never even sat at a Mac so that does not enter in to my opinions.

Edited by thaimite, 2011-10-25 10:50:19.

[onelight]

Having problems with Ubuntu after doing the upgrade, I cannot access anything beside chrome browers from the unity desktop, and chrome is now a very small window that cannot be maximize even with F11.  From the advice of my friend in far away land, I tried going into one of the TTY (F3) and it would not allow the login, it accept the login name not not the password. How can I get my computer back working properly?

[wantan]

I stopped doing upgrades every 6 month. Its too annoying for me and needs too much time. I still use "10.04 LTS - Lucid Lynx" and am happy with it. OK sometimes i miss a feature thats already in the newer versions, but thats OK. I will wait update to "12.04 LTS" in April 2012. Never tried Unity but i am very curious about it. Hope i will like it

[aarn]

Hello fellow linux users,


all comments here very interesting. I am a linux newbie, using toshiba NB305 with RAM upped to 2Gb. Have triple-installed Win7 starter (default) (in 150 Gb partition), Mint 11  (in 60Gb) and now Ub 11.10 (12Gb).


Many more competent people than myself recommended to stick with Ub 10.04.3, but it lost wireless connectivity during upgrades on a few trial installations. Incompatible with atherion wireless driver???


The simplest solution to my problem was to make sure Ub 11.10 (the 697Mb torrent version, running from a usb stick) was working, format the 10.04.3 partition, and install 11.10.


For me, 11.10 was unexplored territory but very functional . Need to install BUM (sudo apt-get install bum) to turn off some startup applications, as 11.10 startup manager hides things! Also installing htop was recommended, as apparently system monitor hogs resources... not sure how to exterminate system monitor, which is is presumably scoffing strawberries in the background.


Mint11 runs very well on my netbook after a few tweaks, and can recommend it.


Win 7 starter- well, default O/S on toshiba NB305, have an emergency reinstallation disk on 16Gb usb. Presently MSE antivirus seems to be pretty good, viruses (or my attempts to eradicate them) killed two previous laptops.


I purge totem, brasero etc, just use VLAN/VLC.


Word is that computers are moving more towards touch-type interfaces, and new computers to be setuo with Win8 will be incompatible with linux??? Maybe just a dirty rumour...

[KKvampire]

There are issues with Ubuntu and certain brands of PC, For example I had problems with Ubuntu 11.04 on my Dell  most significantly was"pointer freezing" either touch pad or mouse on notebook. I dumped it, I installed 11.10 and the same problems, Freezing at boot , allows to enter password then freezes, If you look at Ubuntu forums you will see lots of  Users having same problem with no real solution. So I have stuck with Win 7 ,even if it is a copy, using "Remove WAT" bit of software that stops the black screen and warning message.

[volk666]

I got it now - Mark Shuttlewort, CEO of Canonical that releases Ubuntu, wants to go Mobile, hence he needs an interface that would work with touch controls and on smaller screens, and from that angle Unity looks very promising.

I hope they can manage dual boot on Android devices, that would be exciting - full Linux with all the libraries and multiuser environment on a tablet. Tegra 3 hardware can totally pull it off.

I disagree that KDE is very difficult to use, it's the most Windows like desktop there in both layout and navigation plus a bunch of extra options. XFCE  is also pretty much like Win XP without visual effects.

Unity? I don't know where to start, literally. Unmovable, unyielding dash, no right click options - get me the h3ll outta there!

[pxlgirl]

My fav always has been WindowMaker... but I guess I'm alone with this by now.

[JimShortz]

I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 on the first day of release on on old(ish) dual core desktop and it has been absolutely fine. I tried Gnome 3 but it was a mess so I have stuck with Unity, which I actually like since learning a few shortcut keys and getting used to opening seldom used applications by opening Dash and typing the first couple of letters of the applications name.

It's a different way of working, but good once you get into the groove!

[thaimite]

JimShortz, on 2011-11-03 17:38:19, said:

I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 on the first day of release on on old(ish) dual core desktop and it has been absolutely fine. I tried Gnome 3 but it was a mess so I have stuck with Unity, which I actually like since learning a few shortcut keys and getting used to opening seldom used applications by opening Dash and typing the first couple of letters of the applications name.

It's a different way of working, but good once you get into the groove!

As I have stated in other posts, after a few tweaks and some experience with Unity I find it a very good way of working.
One of my "Must Have" tweaks is to add right click sub-menus to the launcher icons.
See this link for some ideas of how to do this.  For me having a single Libre Office Icon with writer, and Calc etc on a right click list or being able to do updates, and modify PPAs from the Software centre lens is a great time saver

[Forethat]

Gave up on 11.10 last night.
Natty! Welcome back - please forgive me!!!

[chome4]

You won't have any choice but to upgrade as all previous versions will lose updates/support.

If, like me, you've been disappointed with how much version 11.04/11.10 has changed, you might like to try 'Pardus'. It's created and maintained by a division of the Turkish government so it gets regular updates and is extremely polished in performance and appearance.

http://distrowatch.c...ribution=pardus

[bendejo]

I'm another who spent a lot of time trying to get 11.04 to run last spring, then went back to 10.10.  No more keeping up with the new releases, maybe in the future when my version gets dead-ended.  I didn't like Unity, didn't see any advantages to adapt to the new interface except to keep in fashion.  Does everything have to look like a damned Apple product?  
Also Ubuntu install gets my laptop wrong.  I have Compaq CQ40 (there's about a dozen versions!), and Ubuntu always took about 5 min to boot up.  I finally put some energy into investigating it after my few days of farting around with 11.04, and after studying the system logs and looking up the problem on the net I discovered Ubuntu install mis-categorized my hard drive controller. When booting up, Ubuntu would try to access my hard drive as whatever it though it was, and kept trying for maybe 5 minutes, then would give up and load a generic driver and all would go well (NOTE: Ubuntu install had no problems recognizing my controller, partitioning etc went smooth and quick).  It also didn't like my laptop's wifi, so that took some extra effort as well.

On a positive note, Ubuntu is so widespread that nearly any problem you have someone else had as well, and there's a good chance your solution is on the internet.

[dharmabm]

pxlgirl, on 2011-11-03 17:06:26, said:

My fav always has been WindowMaker... but I guess I'm alone with this by now.

openbox here, on arch - gotta love the minimalists!

[dharmabm]

chome4, on 2011-11-14 18:22:16, said:

You won't have any choice but to upgrade as all previous versions will lose updates/support.

not completely accurate - the only ubuntu i ever install (for clients, and for my own testing) are LTS versions, although i am hesitantly waiting to see what the next LTS version looks like. 10.04 is currently guaranteed support until mid 2013 (desktop) and 2015 (server), and starting with 12.04 they guarantee 5 years on both desktop and server versions. you are right about one thing, there is a lot more out there in the linux world than ubuntu!

Edited by dharmabm, 2011-11-17 21:17:35.

[justsumhelp]

Anyone on 11.10 might want to have a look at this, especially if you have ssh enabled http://seclists.org/...re/2011/Nov/264

solution

You can disable the guest account (in 11.10 only) by editing the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and add the line:

allow-guest=false

You will need to reboot for this to take effect.