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[Darkling]

sinbinjack, on 2005-11-17 12:37:32, said:

This may very well be a bad move in conservation terms but some people who replied to this post should look at their own dietary issues, as there is little difference in meat from a cow ,a horse ,a dog or an elephant and the best way to keep animals is to use them for a purpose other than just for looking at, that way there is an economic reason to keep them and business will find a way to make them flourish. How many cows or sheep would there be if we didn't eat them.I personally don't eat much meat (personal taste not political outlook)but see the necessity of animals for food and one animal is much like another

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Sorry mate, Can't agree, sirlion steak is sirlion steak. Or when in Thailand Sir Take.

[h5kaf]

I dont think there is a problem here at all, its just another TiT scam. Can you realy see the local entrepreneur importing all this meat when he can cook whatever is at hand (many mangy dogs etc) cover it in grease and sauces and call it what he likes. Huge profit and fewer stray dogs in Chiang Mai. Cunning business men these Chinese.

[aart]

Just received confirmation that the governments Kitchen of the World Project will ask Thai restaurants world wide to list dog-meat on their menu from the end of March next year. This to promote tourism to Thailand and the Chiang Mai Night Safari. Participant restaurants will receive shipment of original Thai dog meat (certified) not later then 01/04/06.

[rockhardbkk]

IDIOTS...

[Nutcracker]

Dog meat is quite nice if its cooked properly. I can't see that dog meat on menus is a big deal. As for eating endangered species for THB4,500, at that price I think we would be looking at copies.

[threekids]

NguuMuu, on 2005-11-17 12:52:30, said:

I agree with much of the above that this is an incredibly stupid idea.  Serving up exotic animals at the zoo! This would have enough bad press if it was an establishment not related to the zoo at all.  Further proof I'll never understand Thailand...

On the flipside (may the flames begin)...

I'm always up for trying something new and this would be quite an opportunity in this regard.  I don't think crocodile is that exotic...I've eaten crocodile meat in the US before. I've eaten all of the stranger stuff I've been able to find in thailand.  I've never eaten the laab from the north that they make from the (pre)sh!t in the animals' intestines.  I've never eaten dog, but I would give it a try if I had the chance.  I certainly wouldn't make it a regular habit, but I would like to see what it's like.  As for the lions, tigers, giraffes, elephants, etc..... I'd try them once and that would be enough.

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If we all decided to try the flesh from these exotic animals only once extinction would be the name of the game

[csmith]

Same thing just happened with the opening of the new Hong Kong Disneyland .... they were going to serve Shark's Fin Soup .... public protests resulted in it being taken off the menu.

I bet the Chiangmai Night Safari changes their menu before Jan.

Incidently I am living within sight of the night Safari .... hope I'm not on the menu ... but I would like the idea of waking up in the morning with a girafe looking over the wall at the end of the garden ;-)

[awarrumbungle]

Time for some skepticsim.

How can they afford to serve all those endangered animals for only 4,500 baht?

Is this jing? or just another silly idea announced by some minister that pushed ahead of the official party anouncement line and just wanted to see his name in the paper?

[justaskdan]

What? No barbecued Dolphin? I'm not paying 4500B unless I get some barbecued Dolphin!

Could someone please provide me a list of what meat is politically correct to farm, slaughter and eat and which is not.

They serve fish on the menu at the SanFrancisco Aquarium, but it's OK because they are sustainable farmed food. Dogs seem abundant here. Sounds like a tasty proposition to me. Snake, crocodile, no problem with that either. I have seen a lot of whale meat for sale in Korea. Cheap too.

If you don't like it don't go. If you really don't like it move to Iceland. Opps I think I saw whale meat there as well.

[ben01]

[quote name='awarrumbungle' date='2005-11-17 15:18:51']
Time for some skepticsim.

How can they afford to serve all those endangered animals for only 4,500 baht?

you won't recieve the whole animal for b4500!, the ozzies have been serving up some of these types for years, plus it will only work on supply and demand. iIcertainly wont be demanding it.

[Unpredictable]

This is just wrong, we need to preserve these animal not go feeding on them, we dont want to see these animals only in pictures and if we have ppl feasting on them then not very long from today we will only be showing our kids pictures of these animals.

[Tomissan]

Nutcracker, on 2005-11-17 13:39:15, said:

Dog meat is quite nice if its cooked properly. I can't see that dog meat on menus is a big deal. As for eating endangered species for THB4,500, at that price I think we would be looking at copies.

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What ever happened to the 'buckets for dogs'??? Two, maybe three years ago, pick-up trucks with a large cage built on the back used to drive through our village. They of course had loud speakers and lots of black buckets on top. They would trade one bucket for a dog and two buckets if it was a black dog. There were always several dogs barking away inside the cage.
I can only assume that this practice will be borne again shipping the dogs to Chiang Mai instead of Sakorn Nakon. Unfortunately for the diner, he has no idea what the live dog looked like; hairless, mange, etc. Vegetarians Unite

[Crossy]

I always thought that the meat of carnivores (lions, tigers etc.) was stringy and not particularly good to eat. They also breed slowly so it's not practical to farm them. A non-starter IMHO.

Cows, horses, pigs etc eat veggies, breed fast and are good eating, so I assume that giraffe, zebra etc would also be just fine.

Dog is an aquired taste (had it in Korea, not impressed).

Edited by Crossy, 2005-11-17 15:14:06.

[NedKelly]

I have only a few words to say about this........

.........'you've got to be F~%@$##ing kidding' !!!!!

I wrote to the TAT and asked for an official confirmation of this outrage......will post here if I get one !!

[george]

Excellent marketing. Excellent!

[astral]

Now were was that other thread about Thailand's image regarding
the import of Wild Life Animals...................

Edited by astral, 2005-11-17 15:21:28.

[jomama]

Some people are:

Given to flights of fancy
Self-centered
Impatient
Unable to see cause and effect
Easily bored
Grandiose when possible
Able to eat new foods

My friend teaches kindergarten and told me about her students.

Humm…should be a new minister.

George Orwell lives.

[godforhire]

I saw a picture of Thaksin with a tiger cub in the newspaper today, probably taken just before the cub went into the cooking pot for Thaksin's lunch.

[Insight]

Obviously got the idea when visiting one of those up-market seafood places. Pick out the one you want as you're driving around....

Will they stick numbers on the animals? I've never been good with names anyhow.

[silk123]

oh oh, so them sick mange ridden soi dogs will be put on the menu when they keel over and die. How the politicians will laugh to see the foreigners eating them.

[Jai Dee]

Word is getting out quickly too...

This report is from Pravda:

Exotic animal meats on VIP menu at Thai zoo

08:32 2005-11-17
VIP guests at the grand opening of the night safari zoo in northern Thailand will not only get to see exotic animals, they'll get to taste them.

The Chiang Mai Night Safari Zoo will have its official opening on New Year's Day, and the "Exotic Buffet" marking the event will include tiger, lion, elephant and giraffe, said Plodprasop Suraswadi, the director of the zoo project.

The VIP guest who pay 4,500 baht (US$110, Ђ95) for the buffet will have the privilege of tasting an exotic menu, ranging from dog meat from (Thailand's Sakhon Nakhon province) to lion meat from Africa.

Critics have lambasted the idea, saying that it will encourage wildlife trafficking in a country and region already notorious for smuggling tiger parts, bear claws and endangered species for Chinese delicacies, traditional medicines and pets.

Kenya said last week it will give Thailand 175 wild animals, including African buffalo, various species of antelope, zebra and giraffe, as a gift to strengthen relations, but conservationists voiced concern that Thailand does not have a good track record of wildlife management and conservation.

The project, based on Singapore's Night Safari Zoo, will have 2,000 animals of about 100 different species, AP reports.

[Noel]

NguuMuu, on 2005-11-17 12:52:30, said:

On the flipside (may the flames begin)...

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Ahah, like your wildlife grilled, eh?
I wonder if McDonald's will be extending their range to include the 'Jumbo Burger' and 'Big Yak'?

[llewynx]

Schocking!

"According to Plodprasop, animals for the buffet would be imported daily and legally to the zoo."

Excuse me, but how can import of endangered species for the intention of killing and eating them be legal? Crocs, dogs, snakes, ok, but lions and tigers?

[Sangsom]

Truly schocking indeed.

How on earth can one promote a Night Safari to view rare wild animals in their natural surrounding and at the same time offering them as dinner in a restaurant in the same place.

The person who thought this out must have lost his brains! This will be widely critized all over the world and work against this Night Safari tremendously!

And beside the wild animals . . . dogs on the menu downright disgusting!

[Pattaya_Fox]

Exotic animals and Dogs on the menu at a Zoo??

Just what we all knew... Toxin has gone Bl**dy Barking!