Red Wing Boots
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Posted 2011-12-09 14:21:24
Work or play? Have you considered Doc Martins? I've seen them in Zen. Although you might have to change your name to barryscoot.
Posted 2011-12-09 16:20:18
Nope, but got mine off ebay. Make sure they send them by USPS, not any other service, and tell them to write MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM GRANDMA on the box.
Posted 2011-12-09 22:13:07
Redwings are available in Thailand as I get issued them for work, though it seems to be an "Asian Specific" model number Apparently they come from Singapore.
Refer to this post for other info: http://www.thaivisa....7-safety-boots/
The trick with Redwings is get them 3 months early and smother in leather conditioner about 6 times before using. No real bad break in experience if you do this. Otherwise be prepared to be crippled.
Posted 2011-12-09 23:46:09
I got a pair when working in saudi and I was crippled...had to hobble back to the office from site in stocking feet and they felt fine when trying on...not sure where they came from, they're usually a good work shoe...maybe best to only buy from the states with the Hells Angels death head embossed on the top...
Posted 2011-12-10 02:51:21
Here is the Red Wing distributor in Thailand. Give them a call or shoot them an email to see what stores they sell to near you.
LEEDEN THAILAND CO. LTD.
11/88 Moo 8, Sukhumvit RoadBanglamung Sub-District,
Banglamung DistrictChonburi , 20150Thailand
phone: 66 3824 1028
** Info directly from http://www.redwingsa.../index/Thailand
Posted 2011-12-12 22:07:24
Be aware that Red Wings are not what they used to be since they started making them in China.
I wear boots every day, all day in my work and have used Redwings for over 40 years; but I own three pairs that are all coming apart prematurely. I took them back to a Redwing store which would no longer honor the lifetime guarantee and free repairs that Redwing was known for.
I just bought a pair of Georgia boots, Goretex loggers, and so far am very happy with them. But if you don't need heavy duty work boots, and want a good, comfortable walking/hiking boot or shoe, go with ECCO (Denmark) ; I own two pairs, Track Gortex shoes and high tops, and with a good pair of socks they are like walking on a cloud; well made, totally waterproof and as comfortable as you can get. don
Posted 2011-12-13 03:14:02
a good boot for work is Jallate from France and you can find them here and there...a store bought boot and they fitted my weird knarled feet like a glove...
Posted 2011-12-13 08:55:16
cheers for all the replies ...i decided to go with http://www.ecco.com/...1954-00741?i=88 these after ....they were made in slovakia .....my last pair of ecco boots were made in thailand .....by the way i wanted just boots for normal wear and also use when on my harley too....sort of 2 in 1 job ..as the waterproofing is good ..but i still have my eye on red wings at a later date ...by the way can u tell me are red wing boots waterproof ?? the model i was looking at is 875 and 8138
Posted 2011-12-13 20:47:18
I have that exact Track II high top (going on two years) and love em, they're light and comfortable; I wear them for on-site consulting or hiking, when I'm not climbing or cutting. $200 here in California. The RedWing models that are waterproof will say so. Go with Goretex like the Ecco's or similar breathable fabric liner; some types of waterproofing comes cheaper but not breathable; in a hot climate your feet will cook and get wet from sweat inside. I wore Ecco's in Thailand for years and they are perfect. But for the Harley? - the Eccos may be too gentlemanly; you gotta go with the heavy black loggers to get that macho romper-stomper look that is trendy with the bad-ass-wanna-be bikers here. But if you have to, you can throw a kick a little faster with the Eccos, or do some run-<deleted>.
Posted 2011-12-14 00:34:29
Just google "Ecco soles" and you wii see why many people will never purchase Ecco again.
I had a pair disintegrate on me. They cost 5200 baht and couldnt be repaired.
Sad to see a once fine company disintegrate like their shoes.
Posted 2011-12-14 21:22:59
I was surprised to see your comment, as this has not been my experience as an Ecco fan since 1995. But I've used only the Track models and not the dress shoes that seem to be the focus of the complaints. So I searched as you suggested and found this:
"As an employee of Ecco Shoes Canada, I feel I should let you know WHY your soles are “disintegrating” and let you know what I know as a salesrep. Ecco’s soles are attached to the upper via a process called direct injection. We are not the only company that uses this process, though few do because of the price. Blundstones also use direct injection, and I have seen some of those with hydrolysis as well. We use polyurethane soles, which are composed of two separate liquid compounds. Once our leather uppers are finished, we place them in a mold and inject both liquids into the mold, when these liquid compounds interact they form a solid, and this is the most effective way of attaching an upper to a sole, as there is no glue. (Note: this is not true for ALL Ecco shoes, but for most, especially men’s dress shoes. The only ones that have shoes attached with glue/cement are ladies dress shoes.) If water mixes with the two compounds which create polyurethane during this process, it can create problems later, specifically the crumbling you’ve noticed. This is called hydrolysis. I am under the impression that an extremely humid climate could cause this.<br style="font: 13px/19px sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Polyurethane is considered a superior material for soles to be constructed out of for a variety of reasons. It USUALLY wears much better than rubber, or foam. Polyurethane has a good deal of flexibility and give, the sole should cushion your foot, and should not compress. Rubber soles have very little flexibility, and foam compresses within 6 months of standard wear. Also, these soles are glued on which does not last as long as typical polyurethane. As an employee I have seen men come in with shoes 6+ years old, with only slight wear (and obviously no hydrolysis). This is not typical for Ecco either, but I have seen it just as often as I have seen hydrolysis. <br style="font: 13px/19px sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">I have worked at an Ecco store for almost 2 years, and have seen several pairs come back with this hydrolysis. The only styles I have seen come back are men’s dress shoes that are no longer produced. It is our policy to replace these shoes, if they do not appear extremely or excessively worn. We are a separate entity from Ecco U.S. however, so I cannot tell you what their policy is. However, I can attest to the fact that we have a very lenient warranty policy. I have had my shoes repaired and even replaced by our head office. This is more than I would expect as an employee who subjects her shoes to excessive wear, and purchased them at a significantly reduced cost. (I doubt they make any profit on employee purchases, so I feel this really shows to what extent they support their product.)<br style="font: 13px/19px sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">During my time with Ecco, I have seen them issue a product recall on a pair of boots. As far as I am aware, this was never done for any of the styles I have seen on this website. This would lead me to believe that this is a problem that has not occurred in many pairs. Also, I can assure you that I have NEVER experienced hydrolysis with any of my shoes (I stated above that I had had shoes repaired, these were not direct injected soles, and only broke because of extremely excessive wear. Also, the damage on the repaired/replaced shoes was not to an extent that I was upset, my supervisor OFFERED me the replacement.) Also, I have seen none of the recent styles come back with hydrolysis, I believe that this was a problem isolated to styles from 2007 or earlier, as I have been here since 2008, and have seen none of the styles I have sold come back with this problem.<br style="font: 13px/19px sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">In reference to who we get to attach our soles, and where, I can tell you Ecco is a vertically integrated company. We produce our own leather (from the tanning process), and attach our own soles, and sell in our own stores. We have total control over the soling process. As far as where they are produced, it depends on the shoe. Ladies dress shoes, and many of the ‘receptor’ line ARE produced in china, and while I can’t be sure, I think the handbags are as well. Men’s dress shoes are made in Slovakia, Thailand, and Vietnam. I believe the dressier shoes are made in Slovakia, and the rest mainly in Vietnam. All of the production process is run by a CAD/CAM (computer-aided manufacturing) process. The shoes are also inspected several times throughout the production process. Usually you’ll see a small white sticker with a pen mark on it in the inside of the shoe, this is from the inspection process.<br style="font: 13px/19px sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">As a final note, I have seen complaints about soles splitting, or cracking down the forefoot (horizontally) and would like to clarify on this as well, as far as I know it was a defect on one shoe called the Business Comfort. However, this can happen with other styles as well. Usually, it is because the fit is not proper. All shoes are intended to bend at a certain spot, and when you purchase the wrong size, your foot bends in a different spot than was intended. When this happens, the place your foot is actually creasing in is not intended to hold up to that stress, as the intended spot is. This problem is a little difficult to explain over the internet, but I hope that made sense.<br style="font: 13px/19px sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Also, I would just like to let you know that I am in NO WAY a representative for Ecco, I just wanted to let you know what I know as an employee, and all of this information should be told to you in a store if you were to experience these problems.
Posted 2011-12-15 06:40:27
My personal experience is that Ecco Thailand has taken the position that the disintegration/splitting of the sole of the shoe is not a product defect and they will not replace the shoe if it occurs beyond the one year warranty.
Not ethical behavior by my standards.
The comment you quoted is one of the few that puts a slightly positive spin on the issue.
Thousands of people had shoes disintegrate and Ecco refused any responsibility.
I urge anyone interested to google "Ecco soles"
Edited by ricklev, 2011-12-15 07:08:10.
Posted 2011-12-15 06:58:41
I purchased a pair of steel caps from Leeden a few weeks back, they seem a have a reasonable stock of most Red Wing boots including half sizes which I have found near on impossible to find in Thailand previously (I wear a 10.5) and have been importing boots prior to purchasing my latest pair.
Posted 2011-12-15 21:33:39
did u purchase direct from leeden ....do they have a shop there or did u buy from one of their retail outlets .....cheers spoonman for any info
Posted 2011-12-16 06:39:11
Leeden have a shop front at the address listed above. I purchased direct.
Posted 2011-12-19 04:48:35
i sent an email to leeden ...but they only sell work boots in the red wing range....
Posted 2012-12-29 11:16:37
Has anyone seen Red Wing boot oil (or any equivalent brand oil) for sale? Anywhere in Bangkok or Pattaya would be fine.
Posted 2013-02-01 16:58:45
8080cafe in rca has it in bangkok