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[smokie36]

Wallaby, on 2012-02-12 07:40:16, said:

GrahamF, on 2012-02-12 02:36:21, said:

I've been looking in on this thread now and then and all I can say is WOW! I'm no angel by any stretch of the imagination but man oh man, some of you guys are seriously F'ed up! Blaming the OP for some guys acting like jerks, and thinking that their behaviour was acceptable, etc,etc. I can't imagine how you treat people in your everyday lives, your attitudes are mind boggling. There is no reason to not treat someone with courtesy and respect, unless unusual circumstances dictate a change in behaviour. Please cut out the biological imperative crap and the disingenuous "cutting to the chase and not wasting time" BS as well, I can't help but think you know that you're acting like a holes, and if you don't then there is really something seriously wrong with you. I am embarrassed by and for you!

Sorry Ladies, rant over. I will now get back to my regularly scheduled vacation in Costa Rica

Tell me, would you feel baffled, angry, confused and upset if a girl asked you for sex?

If this thread were an actual party you would now be talking to...

[MiG16]

Wallaby
You were comparing the ops situation to those that get propositioned by professionals who work in the field of body trade.
I have nothing against those that choose to buy and trade such service. Afterall it is their bodies.

But if a man (or a woman) blurt out to a random stranger in a setting where it's clearly not the trade business, it says more about their lack of basic manners than anything else.

You may try to find excuses about being open or not caring about the girl in question, but in reality most people would realise it is just offensive. Unless one is living in the stone age or still in animal kingdom / living in the woods/ or some bogan land where such behavior was acceptable and common.

I would even hazard a guess that if any man said such a thing to the op where she had another friend or family present, those other male friends would probably not stand by and let another ignorant man get away with such behavior.

The op was very unfortunate to meet such Ill mannered man. And to be honest wallaby, inspite of your words here, I think even you would not act in such a manner under the same circumstance. (well I really hope not!)

In the other instance perhaps the other men were more polite, but it does beg the question - why get married if these men didn't respect the arrangment of commitment and exclusivity.

Thanks Graham and smokie for restoring faith in the other gender. With some views expressed on here by a couple other men it is easy to make us women falter in our belief that there are still gentlemen out there.

[Wallaby]

MiG16, on 2012-02-12 15:38:28, said:

Wallaby
You were comparing the ops situation to those that get propositioned by professionals who work in the field of body trade.
I have nothing against those that choose to buy and trade such service. Afterall it is their bodies.

But if a man (or a woman) blurt out to a random stranger in a setting where it's clearly not the trade business, it says more about their lack of basic manners than anything else.

You may try to find excuses about being open or not caring about the girl in question, but in reality most people would realise it is just offensive. Unless one is living in the stone age or still in animal kingdom where such behavior was acceptable and common.

I would even hazard a guess that if any man said such a thing to the op where she had another friend or family present, those other male friends would probably not stand by and let another ignorant man get away with such behavior.

The op was very unfortunate to meet such Ill mannered man. And to be honest wallaby, inspite of your words here, I think even you would not act in such a manner under the same circumstance. (well I really hope not!)

In the other instance perhaps the other men were more polite, but it does beg the question - why get married if these men didn't respect the arrangment of commitment and exclusivity.

Thanks Graham and smokie for restoring faith in the other gender. With some views expressed on here by a couple other men it is easy to make us women falter in our belief that there are still gentlemen out there.

MIG16 you are correct, I wouldn't just go and blurt it out, I would at least talke for a little, though it is very easy to get the wrong impression.  Something I do like very much is that when I'm out, here in oz, and I ask a woman if she wants a drink there are times when they will say they have a man, prior to accepting the drink.

I do like that as it is then up to me to continue and buy the drink knowing I'm not going to get anywhere and they also are happy to leave me with the option of not buying it because they are taken.  Saves both of us wasting our time.

I would think that most women don't like the idea of a married man playing up on their wives but nearly every male I know would never consider a man less for doing so and don't have a problem with friends that do.  There are also quite a few women that really don't care if a man is married or not.

I have had many women proposition me and sometimes within an hour of meeting.  No they aren't ladies of the night and no I didn't take offence, or angry, or confused, or baffled. I took it as a complement that they would want to do that with me.  No problem.


(snip) I will no longer post on the ladies forum.

I think I just heard a lot of cheers.

Edited by Boo, 2012-02-12 16:06:30.
removed coment about moderation & admin.

[Boo]

for the best, baiting & trolling on the forum, ladies section or otherwise is against the rules. you're lucky you have been given so much leeway. I'm not that tolerant.
Jog on.

[manarak]

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I have had many women proposition me and sometimes within an hour of meeting. No they aren't ladies of the night and no I didn't take offence, or angry, or confused, or baffled. I took it as a complement that they would want to do that with me. No problem.

There certainly is a big difference in how a man and a woman consider a proposal of a quickie with a stranger.
I've had the occasion to speak openly about that precise with 3 'offended' women so far.

My short research so far yielded 3 possible causes which may come into play separately or in any combination:
- many women apparently don't like the feeling of being 'used' for the man's pleasure, regardless if they get pleasure at the same time or not
- many women have the strong ethical/moral belief that sex with strangers is bad/ a sin (probably stems from education)
- many women have strong ethical/moral beliefs regarding fidelity / not cheating

I don't think it is of much use to say that women in general should not be offended when they are offered sex by a stranger - many are offended in such a situation and let's accept that as a fact, logical or not.

The best would probably to find out in a conversation about the woman's stance on a number of sujects relating to the above before making any move.

[Troyron]

I feel there is a big difference in behaviour of men who are in Thailand and who are at home. Especially if its guys that have been to the bar scene.These guys would never been acting like this at home. Many think every smile from a girl in Thailand is an invitation, and therefore act on it. I have never lived in Thailand, but im moving there with my wife next week, and Im very aware of the possibilities that will arise when I go out with my friends. But I have found the perfect wife, and are not willing to risk losing her just because of a one night stand. That said, I think many people are not afraid of losing their wifes, they assume they can ask for forgivnes and everything will be fine, especially if they have a wife that has worked in the bar scene. I think the divorce rate is like 50% now, so I guess many should never got married.

[obi1970]

most of what i read here is not how man work , its really simple and i will explain it to you all fast and simple.

1) Man have good brain
2) man have penis
3) man dont have enough blood to let both work @ same time


in general we cant help it ( man) people are not made to be with one person its aganst our instinct and in some ( this should be no excuse) there is the hunt that just makes all the risk worthfull

Edited by obi1970, 2012-04-10 12:44:21.

[instagirl]

hanging out with friend, you should proud of who u are and what you did.

always think that you have a wonderful life and thank to god.

[eek]

obi1970, on 2012-04-10 12:40:59, said:

most of what i read here is not how man work , its really simple and i will explain it to you all fast and simple.

1) Man have good brain
2) man have penis
3) man dont have enough blood to let both work @ same time


in general we cant help it ( man) people are not made to be with one person its aganst our instinct and in some ( this should be no excuse) there is the hunt that just makes all the risk worthfull

Absolute nonsense. Do you think women arent swayed by flattery and good looking men? Of course we are! If a couple have agreed to be monogamous, and they have love and respect for each other, then rational thought and consideration (should) take over, no matter what temptation. If you are happy and put in effort in your relationship, and vice-versa, why taint that? Honestly fed up with this kind of bullshit excuse.

[MrMuddle]

I've been married twice, had numerous girlfriends when I wasn't married, and have never cheated or attempted to cheat on any of them. If you're in a relationship, trust should be the most important part of that relationship, otherwise why enter into it in the first place.

[farang000999]

sbk, on 2011-12-23 16:53:51, said:

Believe OP was not talking about Thai men...

Of course not. Thai men only very rarely cheat.

[NextStationBangkok]

I'm the 1/5

[farang000999]

The big problem with cheating is that you are exposing your partner to health risks. People mostly focus on the emotional aspects but I would consider this the bigger crime. And obviously I am talking more about male infidelity of a certain nature.