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#51 MsClueless

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Posted 2011-12-31 10:07:56

there was time when a woman to be with a farang is already bad ....just walking with one and everyone talk bad about
Whether you have money or not
That idea still remain in many part of country

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Posted 2011-12-31 13:10:31

View PostMsClueless, on 2011-12-31 10:07:56, said:

there was time when a woman to be with a farang is already bad ....just walking with one and everyone talk bad about
Whether you have money or not
That idea still remain in many part of country

I have experieced that, some thai people speculate about my GF, they talk about is she a bargirl or isn't she?

(They generally conclude she isn't.)

I don't speak thai, but she tells me what they talk about.

But having a farang also seems to be a status symbol, so maybe it either depends on the relationship, or maybe what part of the country one is in.  Not sure, but it seems both things are true.

Personally, I think part of Thai culture is to talk about other people and their relationships.

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Posted 2011-12-31 13:53:36

View Postjohnbits, on 2011-12-31 13:10:31, said:

Personally, I think part of Thai culture is to talk about other people and their relationships.
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Posted 2011-12-31 15:32:41

This isn't about Thai or Farang or whatever.

Guys will do this anywhere, especially when there aren't many women around they will be eager to seek the attention of whatever woman is around.  

This situation has happened to me NUMEROUS times, in the west and here in Thailand.  

Some guys like to cheat, some women like to cheat.

Some people are married or in relationships and aren't happy, not everyone is in the situation to leave their current relationships.  

Some people like to have boost to their ego.

I think this behavior depending on the situation can go a little too far but you know what, human beings are sexual creatures and also needy.  

People like to know that they can still attract other people.  Human nature.  If it offends you then you might as well just drop off the face of the earth because there is no way that this will stop just because you don't like it not matter where you are.

I usually take this behavior as a compliment.  That doesn't mean you have to do anything with them.  Just laugh, smile, and accept the attention.  Peoples morals are individual and also their situations.  It's up to you if you act on the fact that these guys want to sleep with you.  If it's against your morals to sleep with a married man or even flirt with one, walk away.  Usually the flirting is just harmless IMO.

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Posted 2011-12-31 15:49:43

View Postihunnieibee, on 2011-12-31 15:32:41, said:

This isn't about Thai or Farang or whatever.

Guys will do this anywhere, especially when there aren't many women around they will be eager to seek the attention of whatever woman is around.  

This situation has happened to me NUMEROUS times, in the west and here in Thailand.  

Some guys like to cheat, some women like to cheat.

Some people are married or in relationships and aren't happy, not everyone is in the situation to leave their current relationships.  

Some people like to have boost to their ego.

I think this behavior depending on the situation can go a little too far but you know what, human beings are sexual creatures and also needy.  

People like to know that they can still attract other people.  Human nature.  If it offends you then you might as well just drop off the face of the earth because there is no way that this will stop just because you don't like it not matter where you are.

I usually take this behavior as a compliment.  That doesn't mean you have to do anything with them.  Just laugh, smile, and accept the attention.  Peoples morals are individual and also their situations.  It's up to you if you act on the fact that these guys want to sleep with you.  If it's against your morals to sleep with a married man or even flirt with one, walk away.  Usually the flirting is just harmless IMO.
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Posted 2012-01-01 00:49:05

I've met a some guys who fancy themselves "pick up artists" and like to prove to themselves that they can get positive attraction out of any women including married ones.  It's a basic ego thing.  They take any response from the woman as a positive sign that they have the mojo and that that women on the primal level actually wants them.  It's a weird form of "personal development" which seems to me to be ultimately detrimental because it just feeds the insecurity that they are not good enough and need all these little signs to prove that they are "the man."

Admittedly I can enjoy talking to an attractive woman and will appreciate that she looks attractive but respect the line and not put forth any vibe with sexual overtones or flirt in any way.  I find it disrespectful to the woman, her partner and my own partner.

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Posted 2012-01-01 05:26:36

View PostBookMan, on 2011-12-25 17:35:41, said:

My personal opinion is that a lot of the farang men do assume that every woman in Thailand are fair game , as u supposed in your OP. A lot of guys in Thailand see the rules as being different than when they are in their home countries.  Many (married or not) see asian women as being 'easy'.

Regretably, I think the above  is indeed the case.

What the OP  describes is NOT just what men (all/ most/ some depending on your point of view and the circles you move in)   do.

As any farang woman knows, they do a variant of it in their home countries but that variant is considerably more circumspect with women they don't  know well unless it is in a context which creates an expectation that the woman is "easy".

For some reason people tend to assume foreign cultures are less complex and nuanced than their own, and many farang men make the mistake of thinking that because Thai women are unusually available to them in many settings means that all Thai women are so, all the time, everyplace.

As a result they commit the sort of social offenses the OP describes.  Over the years i've seen many similiar posts, sometimes by the offended Thai woman, sometimes by a farang man astonished and baffled that a Thai woman took offense at behavior that he would never have dared try in his home country.

OP, feel free to set them straight on this in as clear terms as you can muster. If they aren't too dense to take it in, you'll be doing them -- and your countrywomen -- a favor.

#58 MsClueless

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Posted 2012-01-01 11:07:39

thanks Sheryl
I did opposite and was too embarrassed to say anything
With one man (vulgar one) i pretend not hear and walk away
With two others i nicely remind them they are married and that
1 no i dont want to join him n his friends for drink at whatever bar hes going
2 no he doenst have to drop me home. He should go home to his wife

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Posted 2012-01-01 12:55:48

View PostSheryl, on 2012-01-01 05:26:36, said:

View PostBookMan, on 2011-12-25 17:35:41, said:

My personal opinion is that a lot of the farang men do assume that every woman in Thailand are fair game , as u supposed in your OP. A lot of guys in Thailand see the rules as being different than when they are in their home countries.  Many (married or not) see asian women as being 'easy'.

Regretably, I think the above  is indeed the case.

What the OP  describes is NOT just what men (all/ most/ some depending on your point of view and the circles you move in)   do.

As any farang woman knows, they do a variant of it in their home countries but that variant is considerably more circumspect with women they don't  know well unless it is in a context which creates an expectation that the woman is "easy".

For some reason people tend to assume foreign cultures are less complex and nuanced than their own, and many farang men make the mistake of thinking that because Thai women are unusually available to them in many settings means that all Thai women are so, all the time, everyplace.

As a result they commit the sort of social offenses the OP describes.  Over the years i've seen many similiar posts, sometimes by the offended Thai woman, sometimes by a farang man astonished and baffled that a Thai woman took offense at behavior that he would never have dared try in his home country.

OP, feel free to set them straight on this in as clear terms as you can muster. If they aren't too dense to take it in, you'll be doing them -- and your countrywomen -- a favor.

I'm looking forward to you posting links to these 'offended Thai women'....

I don't doubt it happens - as the odd Western man makes the same mistake with farang women here! Presumably they think we are 'desperate' Posted Image !

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Posted 2012-01-02 10:51:40

I've heard it many times from Thai women, do believe many years ago Donna posted a story about a Thai colleague of hers who came into work in tears over some rude offensive farang man who asked her how much as she was stopped at a red light on her motorbike. I doubt Sheryl or I have the kind of time to go back through years and years of posts but make no mistake, it happens often.

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Posted 2012-01-02 11:07:26

View Postsbk, on 2012-01-02 10:51:40, said:

I've heard it many times from Thai women, do believe many years ago Donna posted a story about a Thai colleague of hers who came into work in tears over some rude offensive farang man who asked her how much as she was stopped at a red light on her motorbike. I doubt Sheryl or I have the kind of time to go back through years and years of posts but make no mistake, it happens often.

i would rather be the FIRST told no, than the last told YES...

beat me, whip me, make me write bad checks

Edited by wxyz, 2012-01-02 11:07:38.


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Posted 2012-01-02 11:19:43

View Posthehehoho, on 2011-12-24 09:49:01, said:

View PostMsClueless, on 2011-12-22 14:09:38, said:

maybe a question to hehehoho
does your wife know of the mistress? how does she feel about that?

It's also built into our DNA to keep that quiet. Posted Image

Do you think the foreign men who wanted to use you for extra-marital fun were going to use it as pillow talk with the missus that night?

*rolls eyes*
Guys like you make me lose faith in ever getting married...

#63 MsClueless

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Posted 2012-01-02 11:40:15

fantastic if u do not doubt why do you ask evidence?
Happens a lot
Maybe we dont cry
But many of us dont like it



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Posted 2012-01-02 11:53:56

View Postphuturatica, on 2012-01-02 11:19:43, said:

View Posthehehoho, on 2011-12-24 09:49:01, said:

View PostMsClueless, on 2011-12-22 14:09:38, said:

maybe a question to hehehoho
does your wife know of the mistress? how does she feel about that?

It's also built into our DNA to keep that quiet. Posted Image

Do you think the foreign men who wanted to use you for extra-marital fun were going to use it as pillow talk with the missus that night?

*rolls eyes*
Guys like you make me lose faith in ever getting married...

As a guy l agree with you. Unfortunately there are those who's dick control their life instead of their brains, and caring for the one they chose to spend their life with. Not forgetting what ever they might pass on to their wife. These guy's are the pits. Posted Image .

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Posted 2012-01-02 12:04:17

This topic reminds me of a new watch and an old watch article I read. It talked about about the feeling of the person who wears and doesn't value that old watch. So when he sees a new watch and he has an urge to want to own it then after gaining ownership of the new watch he may look for another watch and  another watch and so on.... He won't stop looking for a new watch until he is happy inside. Though this applies to women, too.Posted Image

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Posted 2012-01-02 12:19:06

View Postjohnbits, on 2011-12-31 13:10:31, said:

But having a farang also seems to be a status symbol,

Only to peasants.

As farang = rich they are quite an easy way for a peasant to show off (supposed) wealth while belittling their peasant peers who haven't got such an ATM. Thus creating a sense of happiness within the peasant.

Edited by hehehoho, 2012-01-02 12:19:49.


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Posted 2012-01-02 13:14:50

View Postwxyz, on 2012-01-02 11:07:26, said:

View Postsbk, on 2012-01-02 10:51:40, said:

I've heard it many times from Thai women, do believe many years ago Donna posted a story about a Thai colleague of hers who came into work in tears over some rude offensive farang man who asked her how much as she was stopped at a red light on her motorbike. I doubt Sheryl or I have the kind of time to go back through years and years of posts but make no mistake, it happens often.

i would rather be the FIRST told no, than the last told YES...

beat me, whip me, make me write bad checks


Ever think that maybe it shouldn't be about how you feel but about having some respect and consideration for another human being?

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Posted 2012-01-02 14:13:32

View Postsbk, on 2012-01-02 13:14:50, said:

View Postwxyz, on 2012-01-02 11:07:26, said:

View Postsbk, on 2012-01-02 10:51:40, said:

I've heard it many times from Thai women, do believe many years ago Donna posted a story about a Thai colleague of hers who came into work in tears over some rude offensive farang man who asked her how much as she was stopped at a red light on her motorbike. I doubt Sheryl or I have the kind of time to go back through years and years of posts but make no mistake, it happens often.

i would rather be the FIRST told no, than the last told YES...

beat me, whip me, make me write bad checks

Ever think that maybe it shouldn't be about how you feel but about having some respect and consideration for another human being?

I respect them, I can take no for an answer, and I don't cheat, I am currently not involved either, so there is no issue

unlike this joke where the girl asks the guy hitting on her if he is married, he replies that he is separated,
she asks him how long he has been separated, he replies since breakfast

Edited by wxyz, 2012-01-02 14:13:55.


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Posted 2012-01-02 15:31:54

So, in response to a story where a girl is stopped at a red light on her motorbike and is asked "how much" you think thats equivalent to hitting on a girl? Afraid that persistent men who don't take no for an answer or who make rude suggestions to women based solely on the fact that they think they should be available is not my idea of respectful to another human being.

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Posted 2012-01-02 15:32:37

View Postsbk, on 2012-01-02 13:14:50, said:

View Postwxyz, on 2012-01-02 11:07:26, said:

View Postsbk, on 2012-01-02 10:51:40, said:

I've heard it many times from Thai women, do believe many years ago Donna posted a story about a Thai colleague of hers who came into work in tears over some rude offensive farang man who asked her how much as she was stopped at a red light on her motorbike. I doubt Sheryl or I have the kind of time to go back through years and years of posts but make no mistake, it happens often.

i would rather be the FIRST told no, than the last told YES...

beat me, whip me, make me write bad checks


Ever think that maybe it shouldn't be about how you feel but about having some respect and consideration for another human being?

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Posted 2012-01-02 15:38:14

the op wrote about being flirted with by married men from her work place, that is much different than being asked to sell her body.

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Posted 2012-01-02 15:50:25

maccaroni man said:

the op wrote about being flirted with by married men from her work place, that is much different than being asked to sell her body.

Think that most guy's who flirt are hoping for a leg over. Thai ''ladies'' do not respect any guy who try's the ''l am a film star'' routine, in fact they think they are complete plonkers, and they are right.

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Posted 2012-01-02 16:16:20

View Postmaccaroni man, on 2012-01-02 15:38:14, said:

the op wrote about being flirted with by married men from her work place, that is much different than being asked to sell her body.

Same attitude IMO;  that every woman is up for it with any guy at any time simply because he's irresistable in his eyes. Shows a total lack of regard for other people or their feelings and a rather infantile selfishness IMO.

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Posted 2012-01-02 17:20:10

View Postsbk, on 2012-01-02 16:16:20, said:

View Postmaccaroni man, on 2012-01-02 15:38:14, said:

the op wrote about being flirted with by married men from her work place, that is much different than being asked to sell her body.

Same attitude IMO;  that every woman is up for it with any guy at any time simply because he's irresistable in his eyes. Shows a total lack of regard for other people or their feelings and a rather infantile selfishness IMO.

I'll repeat the op is posting about flirting.  now i am not a person who does these types of things in the work place but i would not throw a stone because i probably do live in a glass house when it come to flirting which IMO does not degrade, disrespect or harm anyone and if it does then IMO it is more of a personal problem for the person complaining then the person flirting.

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Posted 2012-01-02 17:27:08

Women are easily able to tell the difference between 'flirting' and something different that makes them uncomfortable....



 


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