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Posted 2012-01-05 23:01:06
 F1fanatic, on 2012-01-02 18:56:59, said:
I'm a realist that believes nothing unless 1) it is proven or 2) I have personal experience that makes me believe it is true.
Therefore... I treated all the 2012 'end of the world' theories as laughable - but lately I'm beginning to wonder....
There can be little doubt that every country is experiencing 'odd' weather over the last year or so.
I would be interested to hear others' thoughts - but not those who for whatever reason have always taken the 'imminent end of the world' seriously.
When I talked to my 72yo father about the wierd weather, he said it is just as it was fifty years ago, a lot of science is financed to prove global warming, I have heard more than once that much of the science isn't submitted for peer scrutiny before being reported on, and any scientists who bring forward evidence to the contrary are shouted down.
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Posted 2012-01-05 23:06:05
TomTao, on 2012-01-05 23:01:06, said:
F1fanatic, on 2012-01-02 18:56:59, said: I'm a realist that believes nothing unless 1) it is proven or 2) I have personal experience that makes me believe it is true.
Therefore... I treated all the 2012 'end of the world' theories as laughable - but lately I'm beginning to wonder....
There can be little doubt that every country is experiencing 'odd' weather over the last year or so.
I would be interested to hear others' thoughts - but not those who for whatever reason have always taken the 'imminent end of the world' seriously.
When I talked to my 72yo father about the wierd weather, he said it is just as it was fifty years ago, a lot of science is financed to prove global warming, I have heard more than once that much of the science isn't submitted for peer scrutiny before being reported on, and any scientists who bring forward evidence to the contrary are shouted down.
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I'm employed to say things are fine as well.
I mean, what's the worst that could happen?
Let's wait until we KNOW FOR SURE we've got a problem; say, when we lose Bangladesh completely... or when we forget wherever it was....
SC
Posted 2012-01-06 05:35:36
StreetCowboy, on 2012-01-05 23:06:05, said:
TomTao, on 2012-01-05 23:01:06, said:
F1fanatic, on 2012-01-02 18:56:59, said: I'm a realist that believes nothing unless 1) it is proven or 2) I have personal experience that makes me believe it is true.
Therefore... I treated all the 2012 'end of the world' theories as laughable - but lately I'm beginning to wonder....
There can be little doubt that every country is experiencing 'odd' weather over the last year or so.
I would be interested to hear others' thoughts - but not those who for whatever reason have always taken the 'imminent end of the world' seriously.
When I talked to my 72yo father about the wierd weather, he said it is just as it was fifty years ago, a lot of science is financed to prove global warming, I have heard more than once that much of the science isn't submitted for peer scrutiny before being reported on, and any scientists who bring forward evidence to the contrary are shouted down.
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I'm employed to say things are fine as well.
I mean, what's the worst that could happen?
Let's wait until we KNOW FOR SURE we've got a problem; say, when we lose Bangladesh completely... or when we forget wherever it was....
SC
I remember as a kid sending money to bangladesh 40 years ago for flooding, it is of course ina massive flood plain anyway, easier for them to all move out no way will the flooding stop!
Posted 2012-01-06 06:05:06
The sky is falling! the sky is falling? Haven't we all heard that one before? 555 
Posted 2012-01-06 06:51:05
This has been ongoing for 1000s of years whenever a cute-looking date approaches. That the world would end to some arbitrary, made up thing - ie, the Gregorian, or any other, calendar - is typical of human arrogance/ignorance. Same same, religion. What a bunch of lemmings we are. I wish it would happen, though lets have some nice virus to take us out and leave the chickens out of it. 
Posted 2012-01-06 17:18:29
zzaa09, on 2012-01-04 01:02:42, said:
PingManDan, on 2012-01-03 04:29:29, said:
Or...a new beginning.
Alternative to the end.
We tend to be instinctively negative without pause to consider something else.
I have heard that. That the mayans said it was the beginning of a new conscious. I also heard that it was the end of time, that is time travel is possible. All sounds nuts I know. The one thing that hinges what is possible, is whether there is a consciousness field or ether. I would have said before that that was nuts, but now I like to dream. So let's assume there is a consciousness field, the planet is directly affected by the thoughts and emotions of the people. The more stress we feel, the more the planet has to let off steam as it were. The new consciousness of the planet has to match the accumulated consciousness of the people. If we are moving in to a 'golden age', then we will continue to experience earth changes until the vibrations align. That is the theory any way. No one can prove anything.
Posted 2012-01-06 17:32:35
TomTao, on 2012-01-05 23:01:06, said:
F1fanatic, on 2012-01-02 18:56:59, said: I'm a realist that believes nothing unless 1) it is proven or 2) I have personal experience that makes me believe it is true.
Therefore... I treated all the 2012 'end of the world' theories as laughable - but lately I'm beginning to wonder....
There can be little doubt that every country is experiencing 'odd' weather over the last year or so.
I would be interested to hear others' thoughts - but not those who for whatever reason have always taken the 'imminent end of the world' seriously.
When I talked to my 72yo father about the wierd weather, he said it is just as it was fifty years ago, a lot of science is financed to prove global warming, I have heard more than once that much of the science isn't submitted for peer scrutiny before being reported on, and any scientists who bring forward evidence to the contrary are shouted down.
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I would need to know where your 72 y.o. father lives.
Even in my own life-time, us UK kids could all count on enough snow 3-4 times per winter to find a hill and go sledding.
Nowadays the UK winters are far milder. Yes, there may be enough snow for sledding (if they're lucky), once a year - but certainly no more.
Edited by F1fanatic, 2012-01-06 17:33:20.
Posted 2012-01-06 18:07:48
F1fanatic, on 2012-01-06 17:32:35, said:
TomTao, on 2012-01-05 23:01:06, said:
F1fanatic, on 2012-01-02 18:56:59, said: I'm a realist that believes nothing unless 1) it is proven or 2) I have personal experience that makes me believe it is true.
Therefore... I treated all the 2012 'end of the world' theories as laughable - but lately I'm beginning to wonder....
There can be little doubt that every country is experiencing 'odd' weather over the last year or so.
I would be interested to hear others' thoughts - but not those who for whatever reason have always taken the 'imminent end of the world' seriously.
When I talked to my 72yo father about the wierd weather, he said it is just as it was fifty years ago, a lot of science is financed to prove global warming, I have heard more than once that much of the science isn't submitted for peer scrutiny before being reported on, and any scientists who bring forward evidence to the contrary are shouted down.
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I would need to know where your 72 y.o. father lives.
Even in my own life-time, us UK kids could all count on enough snow 3-4 times per winter to find a hill and go sledding.
Nowadays the UK winters are far milder. Yes, there may be enough snow for sledding (if they're lucky), once a year - but certainly no more.
last year Scotland had the best skiing since the 70s.
Posted 2012-01-06 22:41:52
StreetCowboy, on 2012-01-05 23:06:05, said:
I mean, what's the worst that could happen?
Meh, we're all going to be worm food one day anyway. The only thing left to question is the where, when and how.
Posted 2012-01-06 22:57:06
bangkaew, on 2012-01-06 18:07:48, said:
F1fanatic, on 2012-01-06 17:32:35, said:
TomTao, on 2012-01-05 23:01:06, said:
F1fanatic, on 2012-01-02 18:56:59, said: I'm a realist that believes nothing unless 1) it is proven or 2) I have personal experience that makes me believe it is true.
Therefore... I treated all the 2012 'end of the world' theories as laughable - but lately I'm beginning to wonder....
There can be little doubt that every country is experiencing 'odd' weather over the last year or so.
I would be interested to hear others' thoughts - but not those who for whatever reason have always taken the 'imminent end of the world' seriously.
When I talked to my 72yo father about the wierd weather, he said it is just as it was fifty years ago, a lot of science is financed to prove global warming, I have heard more than once that much of the science isn't submitted for peer scrutiny before being reported on, and any scientists who bring forward evidence to the contrary are shouted down.
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I would need to know where your 72 y.o. father lives.
Even in my own life-time, us UK kids could all count on enough snow 3-4 times per winter to find a hill and go sledding.
Nowadays the UK winters are far milder. Yes, there may be enough snow for sledding (if they're lucky), once a year - but certainly no more.
last year Scotland had the best skiing since the 70s.
I'm not sure I could count on 3 - 4 sledging days every winter. But maybe I was just not committed enough.
Last year my wee boy was quite distraught that we'd not gone back for Christmas, as the snow fall was quite substantial - my dear old mother's car was stuck on the drive for several days. He doesn't remember that in 2003 there was quite a snow fall around Christmas, so we had to pull the pictures up on the computer.
I don't think I would rely on anecdotal evidence to conclude that the world was getting warmer, or snowier, or rounder, but even if it is, its not exactly the end of the world. Similarly nor is the worst recession for eighty years. Let's wait for the nuclear holocaust or being destroyed by a rogue comet before we start with the old "end is nigh" stuff. Its not as if they're going to cancel the Challenge Cup Final or anything!
SC
Posted 2012-01-06 23:32:26
The day we get through a lengthy, unrelated topic without the Brits talking about their bloody local soccer competion will be the day the earth ends!
Posted 2012-01-07 00:23:27
Harold Camping has a theory.
Posted 2012-01-07 00:24:23
samsiam, on 2012-01-07 00:23:27, said:
Harold Camping has a theory.
Can you tell it to us, dearie?
Posted 2012-01-07 07:59:12
bangkaew, on 2012-01-06 18:07:48, said:
last year Scotland had the best skiing since the 70s.
That wouldn't take much. 
Skied their one day - sheet ice in the morning, complete slush in the afternoon. Best skiing was when there was a blizzard.
Posted 2012-01-07 08:03:00
samsiam, on 2012-01-07 00:23:27, said:
Harold Camping has a theory.
He DID have a theory. Now he doesn't.
Quote Camping admitted in a private interview that he no longer believed that anybody could know the time of the Rapture or the end of the world, in stark contrast to his previously staunch position on the subject.
Posted 2012-01-07 10:27:19
whybother, on 2012-01-07 07:59:12, said:
bangkaew, on 2012-01-06 18:07:48, said:
last year Scotland had the best skiing since the 70s.
That wouldn't take much.
Skied their one day - sheet ice in the morning, complete slush in the afternoon. Best skiing was when there was a blizzard.
i got a perfect day there once with fresh snow and blue skies, apart from the 30mph wind, 20min queu for a 2min run and the rocks i hit that is! Not exactly the Alps.
saying that, it doesn't get sticky with sun late on in the season so back in the early 80s i remember skiing the White Lady bumps in May in T-shirts and the snow was perfect for bumps.
Posted 2012-01-08 19:36:08
F1fanatic, as a Formula 1 Fanatic, you probably appreciate engineering and applied science, which will show repeatable results.
So do I.
But it seems to me that you take Holywood way too serious and all these doomsday prophets too. I know, there are many of them, almost a new one every day. Even so-called scientific TV programs broadcast shows about the end of the world in 2012, without a single critical voice there. Well, only bad new sell.
Whether or not there are more storms, more earthquakes etc, is debatable. We do not have all the necessary data. What we do know is that Global Warming is a fact. What we don't know (for sure) is why. And as always in such a case, there are groups who claim loudly that they know. Cars and CO2 emissions, methane from rice fields and cattle, sun spots, neutrinos and what not.
Let's get back to common sense and put these prophets where they belong: In the box of oddities.
Turn on your music box, listen to Mozart's 40th Simphony, take your glas of Glenmorangie and light your Trinidad and enjoy life! Cheers my friend and until March in Melbourne.
Posted 2012-01-09 09:04:24
I dunno about you guys, but I've decided to play it safe and max out my credit cards. Just to be on the safe side...
Posted 2012-01-09 09:45:37
Posted 2012-01-09 11:23:08
Forethat, on 2012-01-09 09:04:24, said:
I dunno about you guys, but I've decided to play it safe and max out my credit cards. Just to be on the safe side...
Your gonna be p*ssed off if it doesnt end then 
Posted 2012-01-09 11:25:39
theblether, on 2012-01-09 11:23:08, said:
Forethat, on 2012-01-09 09:04:24, said:
I dunno about you guys, but I've decided to play it safe and max out my credit cards. Just to be on the safe side...
Your gonna be p*ssed off if it doesnt end then
Maybe they're UK credit cards...
Posted 2012-01-09 11:33:35
TomTao, on 2012-01-05 23:01:06, said:
F1fanatic, on 2012-01-02 18:56:59, said: I'm a realist that believes nothing unless 1) it is proven or 2) I have personal experience that makes me believe it is true.
Therefore... I treated all the 2012 'end of the world' theories as laughable - but lately I'm beginning to wonder....
There can be little doubt that every country is experiencing 'odd' weather over the last year or so.
I would be interested to hear others' thoughts - but not those who for whatever reason have always taken the 'imminent end of the world' seriously.
When I talked to my 72yo father about the wierd weather, he said it is just as it was fifty years ago, a lot of science is financed to prove global warming, I have heard more than once that much of the science isn't submitted for peer scrutiny before being reported on, and any scientists who bring forward evidence to the contrary are shouted down.
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England was so warm in the 17th Century that it had malarial mosquitos and they were growing grapes in Newcastle, 12,000 years ago you could have had the best skiing ever in Scotland as it was under 100 metres of Ice and snow.
I dont think cars were to blame for either event, but I suppose the cave men with all their fancy barbecues may have had something to do with global warming.
Posted 2012-01-09 11:37:27
So just so I can plan, this doomsday is gonna happen this month or Dec 21? I don't think I can take another 11 months of this topic and nothing happens. 
Posted 2012-01-09 11:38:55
this is the best book on WHY all the who-ha about 21 12 12.
The Source Field Investigations: The Hidden Science and Lost Civilizations Behind the 2012 Prophecies
http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/0525952047
Posted 2012-01-09 11:41:08
bangkaew, on 2012-01-09 11:38:55, said:
this is the best book on WHY all the who-ha about 21 12 12.
The Source Field Investigations: The Hidden Science and Lost Civilizations Behind the 2012 Prophecies
http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/0525952047
I am slow reader and fear I won't be able to finish it in time. You got a copy of End of the World for Dummies?
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