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#101 BigBikeBKK

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Posted 2012-02-02 15:28:35

View Postred1green0, on 2012-02-02 15:15:24, said:

None of the Honda big bikes so far are manufactured in Thailand. Remember AP's press release last year about their lines were almost finished and ready to begin production on big bikes for both local and export markets? They even cited the free trade agreement with Japan as one of the reasons they were gearing up and almost ready to begin production. I don't believe we've heard the last of the models that will be available in Big Wing within the next year, especially as there's currently nothing between 250cc and 700cc that will be available when it opens.

What article was that?

There was an article in the Bangkok Post about Hondas intent to move more production to Thailand but there were no specifics in the article.

The Honda Factory in Lad Krabang industrial estate is operating at full capacity 24/7 so unless Honda is going to open a new factory somewhere I don't expect to see anything bigger than 250cc from them in Thailand any time soon.

Japanese confidence in Thailand was dealt a major blow by the flooding fiasco. Honda, being always cautious, is probably thinking long and hard about whether they want to expend production in this country...

#102 JonnyF

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Posted 2012-02-02 16:18:54

View Postkpmsprtd, on 2012-02-02 15:09:47, said:

451,000 baht versus a U.S. price of 217,000 baht. I understand the need to make a profit, but I have never understood motorcycle prices in Thailand.

A lot of it is import tax but I still think these Honda prices are OTT. For example, Kawasaki was selling the ZX10R for 650k. OK it was restricted but that doesn't mean they can buy it for less and RedBaron do the same price for an unrestricted US spec ZX10. These guys are still paying the import tax but they're not doing it for charity so they must be making a decent profit at those prices. The cost of the ZX10 and the CBR1000 is about the same in other markets so why do Honda sell the CBR1000 for 799k? They must be making the same healthy profit as Kawasaki/RB and then they add on around 150k baht pure profit on top on what the other guys are making. Why can't they sell it for 650k? Maybe I'm missing something but I can't see what. Looks like another AP Honda ripoff to me.

I'm interested in the CBR1000RR but I can't justify 150k over the price of a ZX10 from RedBaron. I'm guessing RedBaron could get a CBR1000 ordered in from the states for around the 650k mark as well, so why buy from Honda?

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Posted 2012-02-02 17:14:26

View Postsnowflake, on 2012-02-02 14:51:12, said:

Is is automatic or does it have gears?

I can think of many Thais that does not have a bigger bike just because they are to lazy to change gears, come think of it, I can think of a few foreigners as well...

They are too busy with their guns, beers, girls, and/or eating to clutch/gear/ride it properly... It might be good for them...

And if you have a bad accident and break your leg, it would be nice if it was automatic as you dont have to use your legs then..

but the price... hmm, Nc700x or a nissan march??? I know what I would buy for my shopping trolly!

There's a Dual Clutch transmission option...

Which works like this...

Edited by RED21, 2012-02-02 17:16:33.


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Posted 2012-02-02 19:42:58

View PostRED21, on 2012-02-02 17:14:26, said:

View Postsnowflake, on 2012-02-02 14:51:12, said:

Is is automatic or does it have gears?

I can think of many Thais that does not have a bigger bike just because they are to lazy to change gears, come think of it, I can think of a few foreigners as well...

They are too busy with their guns, beers, girls, and/or eating to clutch/gear/ride it properly... It might be good for them...

And if you have a bad accident and break your leg, it would be nice if it was automatic as you dont have to use your legs then..

but the price... hmm, Nc700x or a nissan march??? I know what I would buy for my shopping trolly!

There's a Dual Clutch transmission option...

Which works like this...


Thanks, nice video. Unlike most Thais i would want the manual clutch AND the dual clutch in one bike Posted Image
And now we know two things. This bikes can drive faster than 100kmh and it is a sports bike that everyone can enjoy (look at 2:33). If they make it as cheap as a Wave i will buy one.

#105 BigBikeBKK

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Posted 2012-02-02 20:09:21

View Postwantan, on 2012-02-02 19:42:58, said:

View PostRED21, on 2012-02-02 17:14:26, said:

View Postsnowflake, on 2012-02-02 14:51:12, said:

Is is automatic or does it have gears?

I can think of many Thais that does not have a bigger bike just because they are to lazy to change gears, come think of it, I can think of a few foreigners as well...

They are too busy with their guns, beers, girls, and/or eating to clutch/gear/ride it properly... It might be good for them...

And if you have a bad accident and break your leg, it would be nice if it was automatic as you dont have to use your legs then..

but the price... hmm, Nc700x or a nissan march??? I know what I would buy for my shopping trolly!

There's a Dual Clutch transmission option...

Which works like this...


Thanks, nice video. Unlike most Thais i would want the manual clutch AND the dual clutch in one bike Posted Image
And now we know two things. This bikes can drive faster than 100kmh and it is a sports bike that everyone can enjoy (look at 2:33). If they make it as cheap as a Wave i will buy one.

Or, another way to read it is, we've provided an automatic transmission for those riders who are too inept to operate a clutch...
In my humble opinion AT in a sportbike is just as wrong as AT in a sports car.
But for a scooter like the NC700 I guess it makes sense. Posted Image

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Posted 2012-02-02 22:44:09

View PostBigBikeBKK, on 2012-02-02 20:09:21, said:

Or, another way to read it is, we've provided an automatic transmission for those riders who are too inept to operate a clutch...
In my humble opinion AT in a sportbike is just as wrong as AT in a sports car.
But for a scooter like the NC700 I guess it makes sense. Posted Image

Well it's a dual clutch paddle-shift AT - in the video it looks like instant gear changes in manual mode. So that should be OK. Necessary? Probably not. Solution searching for a problem, more like.

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Posted 2012-02-06 08:22:38

View PostBigBikeBKK, on 2012-01-31 12:02:50, said:

In all fairness, I expect this bike will have a small niche market in European cities where it could be a good messenger / delivery vehicle... What in the UK they call a "pizza bike" Posted Image

A picture of this lovely bike we all love Posted Image

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#108 NomadJoe

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Posted 2012-04-08 23:52:10

All the impracticality of a sport bike without any of that annoying power or performance.



 


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