Posted 2012-01-29 16:23:16
Well I know I will get a bunch of I told you so's, I really just want to post my story to assist any one in the land of smiles and also telling my story helps me as well.
The bar: Sugar Sugar Pattaya on Soi Buakhao
The girl: Bee
She use to work in Champagne before this.
Yes I know they are hookers and yes I know you should not fall for one, I just wanted to have a good time with her as my last time with her was good.
Known her for a year or so and was in contact with her regulaurly back in my home country. Yes thats a big mistake as well...
The whole I miss u, I love u sms thing going on...
So this xmas I decided to do another trip and planned to hit an island for a bit as well.
Met up with her and she moved her luggage in with me in pattaya, and so the adventure / nightmare begun.
By the second day she was a complete different personality, short tempered, telling me to shut up and not to talk when we went out.. all sorts of rudeness.
My temper boiled and we had a fight and she moved out, 5 minutes after she is gone I get an SMS saying 'I love you' and will see you in a few days, I need some time in the temple, if you want to finish its ok blah blah.. lol obviously she is seeing off some another customer.
I was out on a bender drinking for the next few nights, but managed to enjoy myself. 
I still wanted to get to an island with her and I was determined to have my vacation the way I wanted, Thats the key mistake! don't plan anything when it comes to bar-girls. Anyway after a few days she was back on the scene, she said sorry, I said sorry and she was back to her good-self again, all part of the game.
So we were off to an island and I thought I might get my good time with her...
There were some good times and good laughs and conversations between the sex... but as soon as a few drinks were involved she would turn snappy, we had one fight in a bar and she walked off..
Then there was the issue of the phone games, her walking off to the toilet or taking the phone with her into the hotel/room shower. Obviously hiding her other customers and overseas boyfriends. She has to make money which I understand so I tolerated her talking on the phone and with her friends this was fine with me, but the fact that she would keep the phone under the pillow when we were in bed did my head in, so I told her to put the phone on the dresser and keep it on silent and I would not touch her phone.
Anyway got back to pattaya for a few more nights, then she became the bitch again... had to ask for sex / got rejected, went to her friends bar and she would tell me to shut up, then she hit me in the head, we did have a few drinks... went to dinner and after I paid she told me to f&^k off. wow I couldnt believe the rudness...I wanted to knock her out, but understood that would land me in a world of s&^t, plus I have never or would never hit a lady no matter what her profession is, leave that to the thai men.
This is when I turned, I was at boiling point. So that night I got her phone when she was asleep and got most of the international numbers out of it and sent a meesage from my phone, saying something along the lines of if you think this chick is in her home village think again...blah blah it was quite forth-coming.
She must of found out, but at this point I was so over it and didnt care... then I got a missed call from a thai number, rang it back and it was a thai guy, younger in voice...I noticed it was the same number in her phone as well.. had to put 2 and 2 together here, and started to think that this was getting dangerous. I had only 3 or 4 days left before flying home....
Obviously thinking that a big golden hand-shake was on the way she seemed to be in a happy and ok mood, I was looking over my shoulder everywhere I went...lol. I paid her what I considered ok and jumped in a taxi and was glad to get away from her,.. in the taxi I get a sms 'I Love U',.. yeh right!
I had gotten so involved in the game and didn't even realise, what I should of done was never let her back in the first time.
When I first flew over I was excited at the fact that I was going to spend some time with her and do a bit of travel, Flying back home and thinking of the fights and agression and the lies, bargirls are not worth the time. Well maybe I should re-phrase it a bit Bar-girls can be fun for 1 night but as a girlfriends forget it... back to being a butterfly for me, well I never stopped being one to tell the truth....
Posted 2012-01-29 16:37:26
How old are you?
Posted 2012-01-29 16:58:02
 necronx99, on 2012-01-29 16:37:26, said:
does it matter? I am 29... been to thailand 3 times, not the most experienced of people on this forum I guess.
Posted 2012-01-29 17:03:10
loveulongtime, on 2012-01-29 16:58:02, said:
necronx99, on 2012-01-29 16:37:26, said:
does it matter? I am 29... been to thailand 3 times, not the most experienced of people on this forum I guess.
Doesn't matter so much.
I did the same thing in my early 20's. As have millions of others.
Next time, keep it in perspective, If you are not getting what you paid for, move on.
There are plenty of others,just as pretty and sexy who will take your money and give you a happy holiday.
Remember, always, it's all an illusion, but while you are paying, it's YOUR illusion.
Edited by necronx99, 2012-01-29 17:06:47.
Posted 2012-01-29 17:04:45
Chalk it up to experience and in the future whenever the girls get stroppy, just send them on their way and grab another one. That is the easiest way to deal with crappy attitudes in Pattaya.
Posted 2012-01-29 17:05:09
LOL, the story read like Mr. Clueless Farang in Pattaya!
Applying western values, wanting a relationship, a petty reprisal, all together with the usual abusive generalization of one experience at the end: "Bar-girls can be fun for 1 night but as a girlfriends forget it..."
There are many honest, well-mannered, mild-tempered bargirls who make excellent companions.
What you did with her phone contacts is one of the lowest things - you should not be proud of yourself.
Correct advice is: if you feel unhappy with a bargirl, eject and find another one. Don't try to "educate" her.
Posted 2012-01-29 17:14:39
I appriciate your "warning", I think it could be needed and a good thing to have other aeare of this.
What I can't understand is how you can say that all bargirls is like this after meeting one (ore a couple). There are and will always be people who lies everybody is not the same because they work in the same profession.
You had a lot of signals that something was wrong, like running over the highway dispite of seeing cars coming... Yes, risc is high with bargirls, but don't generalise please.
Posted 2012-01-29 17:14:40
I thought the phone thing was pretty funny. The girls will spill their guts on guys quicker than you can say "short time!" And most guys seem to say that, taking the high road, and not saying anything, is the best way to act.
Posted 2012-01-29 17:31:59
manarak, on 2012-01-29 17:05:09, said: What you did with her phone contacts is one of the lowest things - you should not be proud of yourself.
Im not proud but I don't feel low about it either, maybe I'm saving some other poor bast^&d the same experience. she makes enough money anyways...
Posted 2012-01-29 17:37:13
mackes, on 2012-01-29 17:14:39, said: I appriciate your "warning", I think it could be needed and a good thing to have other aeare of this.
What I can't understand is how you can say that all bargirls is like this after meeting one (ore a couple). There are and will always be people who lies everybody is not the same because they work in the same profession.
You had a lot of signals that something was wrong, like running over the highway dispite of seeing cars coming... Yes, risc is high with bargirls, but don't generalise please.
Maybe I generalized a bit too much at the end of my story.. Yes not all bargirls are evil. I just think taking a girl out of the bar longterm at high season isnt the best of idea's. But its a girl by girl basis, I just choose incorrectly.
Posted 2012-01-29 18:45:42
necronx99, on 2012-01-29 17:03:10, said:
Remember, always, it's all an illusion, but while you are paying, it's YOUR illusion. necronx99, on 2012-01-29 17:03:10, said:
Maybe I generalized a bit too much at the end of my story.. Yes not all bargirls are evil. I just think taking a girl out of the bar longterm at high season isnt the best of idea's. But its a girl by girl basis, I just choose incorrectly.
With the truckloads of fruit out there, it's very interesting to see how we laud over the spoiled ones, instead of just picking new fruit. Almost like we are addicted to suffering.
"2nd best time to plant a tree is today." Sent from ThaiVisa app.
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TheKeeNok
Posted 2012-01-29 20:04:53
Im looking to be a Sugar Daddy to a Mia Noi. I would like a uni educated early 20s woman. How would one go about this?
PS I am short, fat,bald and ugly! 
Posted 2012-01-29 21:02:45
I'm older than dirt. I've had three or four wives, a couple of hundred girlfriends and ten or fifteen mistresses - there have been good ones and bad ones but a hooker with a golden heart! Now there is a rare bird. Scarcer than hens teeth. But having said that there are more in Thailand than any other place I have looked.
Posted 2012-01-29 22:14:57
loveulongtime, on 2012-01-29 17:31:59, said:
manarak, on 2012-01-29 17:05:09, said: What you did with her phone contacts is one of the lowest things - you should not be proud of yourself.
Im not proud but I don't feel low about it either, maybe I'm saving some other poor bast^&d the same experience. she makes enough money anyways...
You didn't save anybody from anything.
How dumb (or lovestruck) has someone to be to send money to a bargirl in Pattaya?
A fool and his money are soon parted anyway.
If your SMS had the effect of turning away a couple of sponsors from her, they will soon fall for another girl anyway and the same shit will happen to them again.
For the girl, it is different: in the worst case, she could possibly have lost as much as 50k a month because of you, and it does take some time to find new fools.
Had this been the case, you might have found yourself with a knife in your back.
You have not been sworn into the morals police, and remember the sponsors send the money voluntarily, it is not like she steals it or something.
The girls do lying for a living. They lie to you to make you feel special. They lie to get money.
Taking revenge or punishing a bargirl as you did is so wrong and so childish, plus you did risk your life doing that.
Edited by manarak, 2012-01-29 22:16:16.
Posted 2012-01-30 00:38:25
you need to do a LOT of gold panning to find any nuggets !
Posted 2012-01-30 06:54:15
manarak, on 2012-01-29 22:14:57, said:
Taking revenge or punishing a bargirl as you did is so wrong and so childish, plus you did risk your life doing that.
I agree with the risking the life part... having spent time with her my temper was at boiling point and I did what I did...
Honestly an "Eye for an Eye", it made me feel good doing it and thats all that really matters.
This chick easily makes 50K+ a month... how do I know that, because she told me. Thats a bit better than most girls.
Posted 2012-01-30 17:20:31
Its funny, I read a post a few weeks back from a guy who had been done over 10,000thb from a girl at sugar sugar... 'JANGED UP' or something along those lines. They must breed e'm good there, well it doesnt matter which go-go you frequent, they are all the same. Hope it doesnt turn you off thailand, you can still have fun just dont listen to the B.S. they talk.
Posted 2012-02-01 05:39:14
rusty1976, on 2012-01-30 17:20:31, said: Its funny, I read a post a few weeks back from a guy who had been done over 10,000thb from a girl at sugar sugar... 'JANGED UP' or something along those lines. They must breed e'm good there, well it doesnt matter which go-go you frequent, they are all the same. Hope it doesnt turn you off thailand, you can still have fun just dont listen to the B.S. they talk.
Technology has a way of helping us out... Just looked up the go go on facebook and there are quite a few pics of her all over different guys... Puts things into perspective and gives me a reality check. She will be a hooker the rest of her life or until she hits 40, then she will marry some fat old dude, no offence intended..
Posted 2012-02-01 05:45:43
So, does she give good helmet or what?
Posted 2012-02-01 08:56:48
kurnell, on 2012-02-01 05:45:43, said: So, does she give good helmet or what?
Not really, had better service down soi 6.
Posted 2012-02-02 21:21:52
loveulongtime, on 2012-02-01 08:56:48, said:
kurnell, on 2012-02-01 05:45:43, said: So, does she give good helmet or what?
Not really, had better service down soi 6.
I see that your schwartz is as big as mine
Posted 2012-02-03 07:00:23
Does the phrase " you cannot turn a hoe into a housewife" only apply to the U.S.A?
Think it is a pretty universal idea, especially when applied to actual prostitutes.
Posted 2012-02-03 08:43:15
FiscalFizz, on 2012-02-03 07:00:23, said:
Does the phrase " you cannot turn a hoe into a housewife" only apply to the U.S.A?
Think it is a pretty universal idea, especially when applied to actual prostitutes.
Would have to totally agree with that saying now, having had this type of experience... short-time is the best time.
Posted 2012-02-08 13:48:29
I don't really see them as hookers, I see them more as husslers. I mean they are only interested in money. Not only for themselves, but for the Thai boyfriend hanger oners and the extended family at home that don't seem to want to get off their butts and go and find a job. Their aim is to have a continuous flow of cash, and they will do anything to get it. Once you understand this then its pretty clear why you are involved.
I am sure alot of sorry stories you hear are true, but hey why don't those extended family with the problems get go and get a job! Thailand has full employment, for those who are prepared to work, and there are alot of people out in the country who are not prepared to go and find work.
So summation: Thailand has alot of social problems, and it seems the young in the family are expected to finance the whole family, not matter what it takes! This is the root of the problems...
Posted 2012-02-08 16:28:52
MaiChai, on 2012-02-08 13:48:29, said:
So summation: Thailand has alot of social problems, and it seems the young in the family are expected to finance the whole family, not matter what it takes! This is the root of the problems...
Very true for the north east of thailand, my first hand experience was with a bargirl, I decided to travel up that way for 5 days to visit the family and the village, a brother that didnt work and drank whiskey, 2 young kids under the age of 5 that were the offspring of the brother and apparently another brother who lived in bangkok, he decided to just up and leave with some other bird. And then there is the mother and farther who only survive on rice harvest, what choice does the only girl of the family have, either sell herself and hussle or leave the family, and they all have their hands out when your in town. Its an bit of a sad situation but it's acceptable in thailand so just roll with it I guess...
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