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[taninthai]

In other words it was stolen then

[katabeachbum]

Hili, on 2012-02-04 10:23:36, said:

I have a simillar thing found a really nice gsx-r 600 but the owner told me hoenstly that the book is fake, however it do have a plate and tax due he was always able to extend at DLT. Would you buy??

if its got book/tax and plate from an old bike and possibly even framenumebr from this bike, its up to 5 year in jail. I am to old for this shit, trying to save peanutmoney and risking major criminal charges, are you?

[wana]

taninthai, on 2012-02-04 10:35:45, said:

In other words it was stolen then

call me a pessimist but that would be my best guess

of course theres a chance that the owner lost his key,took it to the local somchai and they made a bump key that works
id still walk away ,you can still be prosocuted for a bike that was stolen 15-20 years ago and may have changed hands a dozen times
if you get bad luck

a vehicle is a lot more serious  than buying some  stolen junk  in the night market

[submaniac]

katabeachbum, on 2012-02-04 10:41:56, said:

I am to old for this shit, trying to save peanutmoney and risking major criminal charges, are you?

Exactly.  I don't see the point of all this aggravation.  

OK Wana, tell us, how much was this GSXR?   I really am not interested in buying it, but I just want to know since we've spent all this time on it.  I mean how "good of a deal" do you need to go through all this hassle.  Like every time you see a cop, you are worried your bike will be impounded.  Fearing every single police checkpoint.   I have a legitimate 400cc bike with a legitimate green book. I don't have to worry about it.   And I really don't want the aggravation just to have a larger cc bike.

Sure it's not a 750 to 1000cc sportbike like a GSXR.  But do I really need that much power in Thailand?  Trade off: raw speed for peace of mind.  I have a cbr1000rr in the states, and I really don't use the power that is already there.   Thailand is too crazy for me to go too fast anyways.

If it is anything more than 75,000 baht, I would just drop the idea of the GSXR.  Why? Because there are plenty of 400cc sport bikes with legitimate green books that could be bought for 75,000 baht or less.  There have been a couple of CBR400's with updated body kits for less than 80k baht.   I had a guy look at my TZM; he ended up buying an Honda RVF/VFR for I believe a little over 60,000 baht.

Why don't you go for something with less power, but legitimate green book so you don't have to worry about it being stolen and you going to jail...or risking having the thing impounded every time you ride.

[wana]

submaniac, on 2012-02-04 11:02:30, said:

katabeachbum, on 2012-02-04 10:41:56, said:

I am to old for this shit, trying to save peanutmoney and risking major criminal charges, are you?

Exactly.  I don't see the point of all this aggravation.  

OK Wana, tell us, how much was this GSXR?   I really am not interested in buying it, but I just want to know since we've spent all this time on it.  I mean how "good of a deal" do you need to go through all this hassle.  Like every time you see a cop, you are worried your bike will be impounded.  Fearing every single police checkpoint.   I have a legitimate 400cc bike with a legitimate green book. I don't have to worry about it.   And I really don't want the aggravation just to have a larger cc bike.

Sure it's not a 750 to 1000cc sportbike like a GSXR.  But do I really need that much power in Thailand?  Trade off: raw speed for peace of mind.  I have a cbr1000rr in the states, and I really don't use the power that is already there.   Thailand is too crazy for me to go too fast anyways.

If it is anything more than 75,000 baht, I would just drop the idea of the GSXR.  Why? Because there are plenty of 400cc sport bikes with legitimate green books that could be bought for 75,000 baht or less.  There have been a couple of CBR400's with updated body kits for less than 80k baht.   I had a guy look at my TZM; he ended up buying an Honda RVF/VFR for I believe a little over 60,000 baht.

Why don't you go for something with less power, but legitimate green book so you don't have to worry about it being stolen and you going to jail...or risking having the thing impounded every time you ride.

  it was 75k  but  not worth the risk if its too hot to handle

i have a garage full of bikes anyway ,its not like i desperately need another bike

the er6n is plenty fast for thailand but i might get a windbreaker fitted

to it so i get a bit less blasted when its going flat out ,good exercise for the forarms though

[BigBikeBKK]

wana, on 2012-02-04 11:12:48, said:

  it was 75k  but  not worth the risk if its too hot to handle

What year? What size? At that price it might make a nice track bike if it's in decent condition.

[submaniac]

Well it might make sense for a dedicated track bike that won't hit the street. It probably would be a good idea for you Tony given...what happened with your GSXR at the track.   Rule number 1=don't track the bike that you really care about.

[katabeachbum]

submaniac, on 2012-02-04 11:26:57, said:

Well it might make sense for a dedicated track bike that won't hit the street. It probably would be a good idea for you Tony given...what happened with your GSXR at the track.   Rule number 1=don't track the bike that you really care about.

as long as framenumber is clean. been pulled over hauling bikes frequently, want to see green book and keys or want to read framenumber if non plated

[wana]

does nobody every check frame or engine numbers at the track ? seems amazing that a stolen road bike would be " a good track bike "  
but this is thailand after all

its a 750cc ,dont know exact year ,or even if the bodywork is originally for that bike

[katabeachbum]

wana, on 2012-02-04 11:31:59, said:

does nobody every check frame or engine numbers at the track ? seems amazing that a stolen road bike would be " a good track bike "  
but this is thailand after all

its a 750cc ,dont know exact year ,or even if the bodywork is originally for that bike

on the track area, framenumber is not needed, its private property

[BigBikeBKK]

katabeachbum, on 2012-02-04 11:31:01, said:

submaniac, on 2012-02-04 11:26:57, said:

Well it might make sense for a dedicated track bike that won't hit the street. It probably would be a good idea for you Tony given...what happened with your GSXR at the track.   Rule number 1=don't track the bike that you really care about.

as long as framenumber is clean. been pulled over hauling bikes frequently, want to see green book and keys or want to read framenumber if non plated

Sure they can check frame and engine numbers if they want, but as long as the vehicle isn't used on the road it doesn't need a green book.

[katabeachbum]

BigBikeBKK, on 2012-02-04 12:25:30, said:

katabeachbum, on 2012-02-04 11:31:01, said:

submaniac, on 2012-02-04 11:26:57, said:

Well it might make sense for a dedicated track bike that won't hit the street. It probably would be a good idea for you Tony given...what happened with your GSXR at the track.   Rule number 1=don't track the bike that you really care about.

as long as framenumber is clean. been pulled over hauling bikes frequently, want to see green book and keys or want to read framenumber if non plated

Sure they can check frame and engine numbers if they want, but as long as the vehicle isn't used on the road it doesn't need a green book.

if its plated, a hauled vehicle needs a reg book in check points and they ask if you have the keys

[newf]

BigBikeBKK, on 2012-02-04 12:25:30, said:

katabeachbum, on 2012-02-04 11:31:01, said:

submaniac, on 2012-02-04 11:26:57, said:

Well it might make sense for a dedicated track bike that won't hit the street. It probably would be a good idea for you Tony given...what happened with your GSXR at the track.   Rule number 1=don't track the bike that you really care about.

as long as framenumber is clean. been pulled over hauling bikes frequently, want to see green book and keys or want to read framenumber if non plated

Sure they can check frame and engine numbers if they want, but as long as the vehicle isn't used on the road it doesn't need a green book.

True is doesn't need a green book but you'll need to have the right documents stating that taxes are paid if you plan to transport it to and from the race track.  Got stopped with my old K5 racebike and they (Toll both police) wouldn't let me take the bike until i could prove taxes were paid.  They did look around the bike for frame/engine numbers but i never noticed them trying to match it with the paperwork.

Edited by newf, 2012-02-04 14:09:13.

[BigBikeBKK]

newf, on 2012-02-04 14:08:46, said:

BigBikeBKK, on 2012-02-04 12:25:30, said:

katabeachbum, on 2012-02-04 11:31:01, said:

submaniac, on 2012-02-04 11:26:57, said:

Well it might make sense for a dedicated track bike that won't hit the street. It probably would be a good idea for you Tony given...what happened with your GSXR at the track.   Rule number 1=don't track the bike that you really care about.

as long as framenumber is clean. been pulled over hauling bikes frequently, want to see green book and keys or want to read framenumber if non plated

Sure they can check frame and engine numbers if they want, but as long as the vehicle isn't used on the road it doesn't need a green book.

True is doesn't need a green book but you'll need to have the right documents stating that taxes are paid if you plan to transport it to and from the race track.  Got stopped with my old K5 racebike and they (Toll both police) wouldn't let me take the bike until i could prove taxes were paid.  They did look around the bike for frame/engine numbers but i never noticed them trying to match it with the paperwork.

Did they ding you for having the bike uncovered in the back of your truck?

[newf]

BigBikeBKK, on 2012-02-04 17:12:55, said:

Did they ding you for having the bike uncovered in the back of your truck?

Yep, 500Baht...that was the last straw for transporting the bike in the truck....bought a Hiace a few days later

[katabeachbum]

newf, on 2012-02-04 17:31:40, said:

BigBikeBKK, on 2012-02-04 17:12:55, said:

Did they ding you for having the bike uncovered in the back of your truck?

Yep, 500Baht...that was the last straw for transporting the bike in the truck....bought a Hiace a few days later

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done a few hundred k km like this, once been asked why its not covered, backed off when I displayed my HighwayPolice Volunteer badge. Has anyone ever found an actual law stating a strapped bike must be covered? Ordinary cargo, yes, to prevent it fly all over the expressways, but a strapped bike?

I use a ninja led tail light velcro band to rearwheel to mark rearmost position. hooked up to cars rear light and brake light, so never a comment on lack of red flag

[BigBikeBKK]

katabeachbum, on 2012-02-04 18:02:49, said:

newf, on 2012-02-04 17:31:40, said:

BigBikeBKK, on 2012-02-04 17:12:55, said:

Did they ding you for having the bike uncovered in the back of your truck?

Yep, 500Baht...that was the last straw for transporting the bike in the truck....bought a Hiace a few days later

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done a few hundred k km like this, once been asked why its not covered, backed off when I displayed my HighwayPolice Volunteer badge. Has anyone ever found an actual law stating a strapped bike must be covered? Ordinary cargo, yes, to prevent it fly all over the expressways, but a strapped bike?

I use a ninja led tail light velcro band to rearwheel to mark rearmost position. hooked up to cars rear light and brake light, so never a comment on lack of red flag

I thought you are the expert on Thai laws, no?

As it's been explained to me, ALL loads in the back of a truck must be covered. Doesn't matter if it's a bike or a pile of bricks.

That's only what I've been told. Feel free to confirm independently

Interestingly enough, if you're transporting a car or bike or boat on a legal trailer they do NOT have to be covered... TiT I suppose