118 replies to this topic
Posted 2012-02-09 16:23:31
 WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-09 12:22:04, said:
BSJ, on 2012-02-09 06:55:15, said:
janverbeem, on 2012-02-07 00:07:47, said:
MoonRiverOasis, on 2012-02-06 17:47:39, said:
Only thing I'll add is this:
Goodyear owns Dunlop, and Goodyear is their premium brand..
Likewise, Michelin own Bridgestone, with Michelin being their premium brand... they also hold a majority stake in Yokohama, and that's their performance brand...
I hate to contradict you MRO as i know you are in the" business " but i read something different all the time.
Michelin owns BFG, Uniroyal, Kleber
Bridgestone owns Firestone, Dayton
Goodyear owns Dunlop
Continental owns General, Hoosier
http://www.neilkline.../whoownswho.htm
Michelin ( French pronunciation: [miʃlɛ̃]; English: /ˈmɪʃəlɪn/ or /ˈmɪtʃəlɪn/; full name: SCA Compagnie Générale des Établissements Michelin) is a tyre manufacturer based in Clermont-Ferrand in the Auvergne région of France. It is one of the two largest tyre manufacturers in the world along with Bridgestone. [2] In addition to the Michelin brand, it also owns the BFGoodrich, Kleber, Riken, Kormoran and Uniroyal (in North America) tyre brands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelin
By the way did you know that bridgestone once was a motorcycle manufacturer.
At last, someone who knows what they are talking about!
PS: I find it rather amusing that none of the big brands have a Chinese named tyre in their portfolio, but all make tyres in China!
 Even the Chinese don't name their products with Chinese names!
Zhengxing = 正兴 this name sounds pretty much like Chinese to me. 
Edited by Kwasaki, 2012-02-09 16:25:24.
Posted 2012-02-09 20:35:39
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-09 16:23:31, said:
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-09 12:22:04, said:
BSJ, on 2012-02-09 06:55:15, said:
janverbeem, on 2012-02-07 00:07:47, said:
At last, someone who knows what they are talking about!
PS: I find it rather amusing that none of the big brands have a Chinese named tyre in their portfolio, but all make tyres in China!
Even the Chinese don't name their products with Chinese names!
Zhengxing = 正兴 this name sounds pretty much like Chinese to me.
Yeah how about Emaux, Nokia, Hummer, Volvo, and on and on  .....
#78
katabeachbum
Posted 2012-02-09 20:53:14
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-09 20:35:39, said:
Yeah how about Emaux, Nokia, Hummer, Volvo, and on and on .....
to be fair, I have quiet a few Sony sound systems made in China, some of the up to 10 yo, so not all crap
the thing with tyres, any point of importing chinese tyres to Th, they must be dirt cheap. so dirt shit crap tyres
Posted 2012-02-09 21:00:02
katabeachbum, on 2012-02-09 20:53:14, said:
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-09 20:35:39, said:
Yeah how about Emaux, Nokia, Hummer, Volvo, and on and on .....
to be fair, I have quiet a few Sony sound systems made in China, some of the up to 10 yo, so not all crap
the thing with tyres, any point of importing chinese tyres to Th, they must be dirt cheap. so dirt shit crap tyres
I never said anything about crap.. I said the Chinese know all too well of their reputation in the world market and often don't name even their own brands anything that is close to a Chinese name outside of their own market especially if they want to stand away from their country's offerings, it's often something innocuous or sounds like it's American or European.. Then of course there are those they bought or produce for others which in theory are Chinese too but under the required specs.. And instead of proudly displaying the "made in China" label right on it openly you often have to look very intently to find that label if at all..
I also have several pneumatic tools that have now traveled around the world first being imported half way to the states where I purchased them and now brought back here with me that are much older then your Sony and get beat all the time.. They were very inexpensive but I figured they'd be throw away at that price anyways so no real loss but they are still getting the job done after years of abuse at the track and at the shop. Well not too much abuse, I take good care of my tools but at the moment sometimes they get abused in the heat of the action..
Conversely yesterday a bought a new video to digital hardware unit for my computer to convert my hours of racing videos to digital and it doesn't work so it's a turkey shoot but it doesn't have the Sony name or oversight in it..
Edited by WarpSpeed, 2012-02-09 21:15:01.
#80
katabeachbum
Posted 2012-02-09 21:02:38
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-09 21:00:02, said:
katabeachbum, on 2012-02-09 20:53:14, said:
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-09 20:35:39, said:
Yeah how about Emaux, Nokia, Hummer, Volvo, and on and on .....
to be fair, I have quiet a few Sony sound systems made in China, some of the up to 10 yo, so not all crap
the thing with tyres, any point of importing chinese tyres to Th, they must be dirt cheap. so dirt shit crap tyres
I never said anything about crap.. I said the Chinese know all too well of their reputation in the world market and often don't name even their own brands anything that is close to a Chinese name outside of their own market especially if the want to stand away from their country's offerings, it's often something innocuous or sounds like it's American or European.. Then of course there are those they bought or produce for others which in theory are Chinese too but under the required specs.. And instead of proudly displaying the "made in China" label right on it openly you often have to look very intently to find that label if at all..
Like Bridgestone?
Posted 2012-02-09 21:12:15
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-09 20:35:39, said:
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-09 16:23:31, said:
Zhengxing = 正兴 this name sounds pretty much like Chinese to me.
Yeah how about Emaux, Nokia, Hummer, Volvo, and on and on .....
But Zhengxing is a tyre. !!
Posted 2012-02-09 21:16:34
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-09 21:12:15, said:
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-09 20:35:39, said:
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-09 16:23:31, said:
Zhengxing = 正兴 this name sounds pretty much like Chinese to me.
Yeah how about Emaux, Nokia, Hummer, Volvo, and on and on .....
But Zhengxing is a tyre. !!
But is it available branded like that out of China? Never heard of it....BUT I don't profess to have heard of every insignificant tire brand either..
Edited by WarpSpeed, 2012-02-09 21:17:28.
Posted 2012-02-09 21:17:02
katabeachbum, on 2012-02-09 21:02:38, said:
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-09 21:00:02, said:
katabeachbum, on 2012-02-09 20:53:14, said:
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-09 20:35:39, said:
Yeah how about Emaux, Nokia, Hummer, Volvo, and on and on .....
to be fair, I have quiet a few Sony sound systems made in China, some of the up to 10 yo, so not all crap
the thing with tyres, any point of importing chinese tyres to Th, they must be dirt cheap. so dirt shit crap tyres
I never said anything about crap.. I said the Chinese know all too well of their reputation in the world market and often don't name even their own brands anything that is close to a Chinese name outside of their own market especially if the want to stand away from their country's offerings, it's often something innocuous or sounds like it's American or European.. Then of course there are those they bought or produce for others which in theory are Chinese too but under the required specs.. And instead of proudly displaying the "made in China" label right on it openly you often have to look very intently to find that label if at all..
Like Bridgestone?
10 years back l paid 150 English for a pair of Rock Port Boots (USA). On close inspection, made in China  , l have personally resoled them and are as good as new now. 
Posted 2012-02-09 21:22:10
transam, on 2012-02-09 11:12:27, said:
Please note that a 265/70x16 tyre is roughly the same circumference/diameter as a 265/65x17 tyre as were both fitted to Vigo/Fortuner.
Roughly? I get 1.1mm
Posted 2012-02-09 21:46:25
transam, on 2012-02-09 21:17:02, said:
10 years back l paid 150 English for a pair of Rock Port Boots (USA). On close inspection, made in China , l have personally resoled them and are as good as new now.
So your the one !! 
Posted 2012-02-09 22:32:02
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-09 21:46:25, said:
transam, on 2012-02-09 21:17:02, said:
10 years back l paid 150 English for a pair of Rock Port Boots (USA). On close inspection, made in China , l have personally resoled them and are as good as new now.
So your the one !!
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh,, don't tell any one bud. 
Posted 2012-02-10 08:54:29
To answer your question directly:
yes, if your tires are to old you should/must change them.
Rubber has an expire period, after that they are prone to cracking and chipping off chunks.
but if you dont go high speed (under 50km) you should be ok if you maintain it well. (depending ofcourse how old the tire is)
Posted 2012-02-10 20:54:10
philipm, on 2012-02-10 08:54:29, said:
To answer your question directly:
yes, if your tires are to old you should/must change them.
Rubber has an expire period, after that they are prone to cracking and chipping off chunks.
but if you dont go high speed (under 50km) you should be ok if you maintain it well. (depending ofcourse how old the tire is)
Yes rubber has an expire period apparently between 2 year & 20 year.
Posted 2012-02-10 20:56:27
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-10 20:54:10, said:
philipm, on 2012-02-10 08:54:29, said:
To answer your question directly:
yes, if your tires are to old you should/must change them.
Rubber has an expire period, after that they are prone to cracking and chipping off chunks.
but if you dont go high speed (under 50km) you should be ok if you maintain it well. (depending ofcourse how old the tire is)
Yes rubber has an expire period apparently between 2 year & 20 year.
Correct.
Posted 2012-02-11 01:54:48
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-10 20:54:10, said:
philipm, on 2012-02-10 08:54:29, said:
To answer your question directly:
yes, if your tires are to old you should/must change them.
Rubber has an expire period, after that they are prone to cracking and chipping off chunks.
but if you dont go high speed (under 50km) you should be ok if you maintain it well. (depending ofcourse how old the tire is)
Yes rubber has an expire period apparently between 2 year & 20 year.
Have to say though I wouldn't be making a trip to the grocery store on a tire 20 years old let alone dragging it down a race track on a big heavy car ..
Edited by WarpSpeed, 2012-02-11 01:55:14.
Posted 2012-02-11 07:03:47
Are tires still made from rubber?
Posted 2012-02-11 10:29:55
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-11 01:54:48, said:
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-10 20:54:10, said:
philipm, on 2012-02-10 08:54:29, said:
To answer your question directly:
yes, if your tires are to old you should/must change them.
Rubber has an expire period, after that they are prone to cracking and chipping off chunks.
but if you dont go high speed (under 50km) you should be ok if you maintain it well. (depending ofcourse how old the tire is)
Yes rubber has an expire period apparently between 2 year & 20 year.
Have to say though I wouldn't be making a trip to the grocery store on a tire 20 years old let alone dragging it down a race track on a big heavy car ..
The front wheels barely touched the black top  .
#93
katabeachbum
Posted 2012-02-11 10:35:44
mogandave, on 2012-02-11 07:03:47, said:
Are tires still made from rubber?
yes rubber, textile/steel reinforced. only high end tyres use synthetic rubber made from oil, but they also are UV sensitive
#94
katabeachbum
Posted 2012-02-11 10:37:57
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-10 20:54:10, said:
philipm, on 2012-02-10 08:54:29, said:
To answer your question directly:
yes, if your tires are to old you should/must change them.
Rubber has an expire period, after that they are prone to cracking and chipping off chunks.
but if you dont go high speed (under 50km) you should be ok if you maintain it well. (depending ofcourse how old the tire is)
Yes rubber has an expire period apparently between 2 year & 20 year.
Ninja tyres no more than 2 years. already at one year its noticable less traction, and my bikes are in a closed dark garage +22 hours a day
Posted 2012-02-11 10:53:19
katabeachbum, on 2012-02-11 10:37:57, said:
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-10 20:54:10, said:
philipm, on 2012-02-10 08:54:29, said:
To answer your question directly:
yes, if your tires are to old you should/must change them.
Rubber has an expire period, after that they are prone to cracking and chipping off chunks.
but if you dont go high speed (under 50km) you should be ok if you maintain it well. (depending ofcourse how old the tire is)
Yes rubber has an expire period apparently between 2 year & 20 year.
Ninja tyres no more than 2 years. already at one year its noticable less traction, and my bikes are in a closed dark garage +22 hours a day
Yep, and ''street'' tyres design for drag racing in street class, and of course us street warriors, perhaps would start decompose in a year , but remember the tread depth was a mere 7/32, if l remember correctly, and a few burnouts had it's toll.
I remember buying a pair of Hoosier 325/50x15 ''street'' drag radials that were delivered folded up and tied with string , l thought, christ they will be like balloons. Good traction but a bit scarey on shut down as 10 psi was race pressure.
#96
katabeachbum
Posted 2012-02-11 10:59:20
transam, on 2012-02-11 10:53:19, said:
katabeachbum, on 2012-02-11 10:37:57, said:
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-10 20:54:10, said:
philipm, on 2012-02-10 08:54:29, said:
To answer your question directly:
yes, if your tires are to old you should/must change them.
Rubber has an expire period, after that they are prone to cracking and chipping off chunks.
but if you dont go high speed (under 50km) you should be ok if you maintain it well. (depending ofcourse how old the tire is)
Yes rubber has an expire period apparently between 2 year & 20 year.
Ninja tyres no more than 2 years. already at one year its noticable less traction, and my bikes are in a closed dark garage +22 hours a day
Yep, and ''street'' tyres design for drag racing in street class, and of course us street warriors, perhaps would start decompose in a year , but remember the tread depth was a mere 7/32, if l remember correctly, and a few burnouts had it's toll.
I remember buying a pair of Hoosier 325/50x15 ''street'' drag radials that were delivered folded up and tied with string , l thought, christ they will be like balloons. Good traction but a bit scarey on shut down as 10 psi was race pressure.
the thing with us street warriors who do not race tracks any more is that experience compensates for our age and UV exposure. I never trusted this fact when I was young, but sure is a much better and possibly faster driver now
back to rubber, condoms come with an expire date dont they, havent used any for years 
Posted 2012-02-11 12:36:06
transam, on 2012-02-11 10:29:55, said:
WarpSpeed, on 2012-02-11 01:54:48, said:
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-10 20:54:10, said:
philipm, on 2012-02-10 08:54:29, said:
To answer your question directly:
yes, if your tires are to old you should/must change them.
Rubber has an expire period, after that they are prone to cracking and chipping off chunks.
but if you dont go high speed (under 50km) you should be ok if you maintain it well. (depending ofcourse how old the tire is)
Yes rubber has an expire period apparently between 2 year & 20 year.
Have to say though I wouldn't be making a trip to the grocery store on a tire 20 years old let alone dragging it down a race track on a big heavy car ..
The front wheels barely touched the black top .
I hear ya but still eventually they do and that's when all 'ell can break loose..
Posted 2012-02-11 12:39:50
katabeachbum, on 2012-02-11 10:59:20, said:
transam, on 2012-02-11 10:53:19, said:
katabeachbum, on 2012-02-11 10:37:57, said:
Kwasaki, on 2012-02-10 20:54:10, said:
Yes rubber has an expire period apparently between 2 year & 20 year.
Ninja tyres no more than 2 years. already at one year its noticable less traction, and my bikes are in a closed dark garage +22 hours a day
Yep, and ''street'' tyres design for drag racing in street class, and of course us street warriors, perhaps would start decompose in a year , but remember the tread depth was a mere 7/32, if l remember correctly, and a few burnouts had it's toll.
I remember buying a pair of Hoosier 325/50x15 ''street'' drag radials that were delivered folded up and tied with string , l thought, christ they will be like balloons. Good traction but a bit scarey on shut down as 10 psi was race pressure.
the thing with us street warriors who do not race tracks any more is that experience compensates for our age and UV exposure. I never trusted this fact when I was young, but sure is a much better and possibly faster driver now
back to rubber, condoms come with an expire date dont they, havent used any for years
Not mine, they're steel reinforced and good for at least 20 years ....
Posted 2012-02-11 22:09:13
You just never had to unroll one far enough to see the date.
Posted 2012-02-11 22:12:07
mogandave, on 2012-02-11 22:09:13, said:
You just never had to unroll one far enough to see the date.
Same as me.
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