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Posted 2012-02-11 08:13:35
 Siam Simon, on 2012-02-11 07:29:36, said:
ThaiOats, on 2012-02-11 07:10:55, said:
I'm sorry I didn't see the "No Thais Allowed" and that I needed to explain my presence here. Same could be said about what brought you to a forum that talks about Thailand's politics.
I only made suggestions to go and discuss the issues with Thai people like you would discuss them with the TV here. Whatever conclusions you draw from it, that's entirely up to you. From my personal experience and interviews, those are my conclusions and you don't have to believe a word I say of it. I just wanted to put a few things on the table;
- if Thailand's population is roughly 69 million, 15 million voting for PTP (Red Support), 11 million being Democrats, and if it was truly a battle against the elite/amart.. do you really think 11 million + non Red have connection with Elitists? The rest of Thailand didn't think they were being oppressed enough to stand up and join the Red Shirts or maybe I could be wrong and a few years the other 40 million would jump into the Red Shirts.
- Time will tell and if Shinawatras keeps getting themselves (himself) re-elected, then you know what that means. If the day truly comes where I'm convinced that the Red Shirt movement is for the people (whatever their definate goal is), then I too will join them in their cause. Alas, this ongoing political conflict is not the People vs the Military. It's the People vs Thaksin's Regime.
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Why do you ask SS, its not a dating site and it has nothing to do with the topic. It would have been more polite to ask in a PM, not in an open forum.
Posted 2012-02-11 08:21:47
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Posted 2012-02-11 08:34:30
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Sure, I was born in Bangkok and raised in the US since I was 6 years old hence I'm unable to read or write Thai. My verbal and listening skills are excellent so I'm able to listen to the news in Thai, watch Parliament sessions and discuss politics with my Thai customers just because it interests me. The debate on TVF is much more interesting as some people come up with posts that are funny, intelligent, informative, and then there's the propaganda and trolling. Believe me, foreigners have much more substance when discussing politics than Thais (at least from the ones I've met), I wonder why? It really is taboo to discuss politics amongst Thais because you're not really sure who they're supporting, at least from a business owner's perspective, I could lose business. So far I'm playing both sides of the field to try to understand them better but I find myself leaning towards anti-Red/Thaksin.
Now could you politely explain why you're so set upon supporting this government seeing how the PM often claims ignorance, has poor communication skills (even in Thai), had no political interest what-so-ever before being nominated to become a PM, no experience, and selects her cabinet members based on rewards rather than suitability? These are the things that I can see clearly with my eyes without any politicizing. I really, really want to know what the Reds are fighting (rallying) for and how is the PTP going to provide that for them? Please enlighten me on some things that I do not know or have yet to discover.
Posted 2012-02-11 14:43:50
ThaiOats, on 2012-02-11 08:34:30, said:
Sure, I was born in Bangkok and raised in the US since I was 6 years old hence I'm unable to read or write Thai. My verbal and listening skills are excellent so I'm able to listen to the news in Thai, watch Parliament sessions and discuss politics with my Thai customers just because it interests me. The debate on TVF is much more interesting as some people come up with posts that are funny, intelligent, informative, and then there's the propaganda and trolling. Believe me, foreigners have much more substance when discussing politics than Thais (at least from the ones I've met), I wonder why? It really is taboo to discuss politics amongst Thais because you're not really sure who they're supporting, at least from a business owner's perspective, I could lose business. So far I'm playing both sides of the field to try to understand them better but I find myself leaning towards anti-Red/Thaksin.
Now could you politely explain why you're so set upon supporting this government seeing how the PM often claims ignorance, has poor communication skills (even in Thai), had no political interest what-so-ever before being nominated to become a PM, no experience, and selects her cabinet members based on rewards rather than suitability? These are the things that I can see clearly with my eyes without any politicizing. I really, really want to know what the Reds are fighting (rallying) for and how is the PTP going to provide that for them? Please enlighten me on some things that I do not know or have yet to discover.
exactly
Edited by z12, 2012-02-11 14:44:02.
Posted 2012-02-13 22:52:05
Siam Simon, on 2012-02-11 07:29:36, said:
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metisdead, on 2012-02-11 08:21:47, said:
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Hmmm ... why doesn't that surprise me.
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